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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 11/24/2008 8:47:28 PM
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AbbyGrace
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I really can tell the difference between your words, and those of my Lord.
And I can tell the difference between your words and those of my Lord...
Luke 16:18
"Everyone who divorces his wife and marries another commits adultery, and he who marries one who is divorced from a husband commits adultery.”
Yes, you are right, if you are "married," and if you leave your spouse for someone else, then yes, its adultery, but "you" are interpreting that verse wrong. That verse is not saying, if you leave your spouse because you are undergoing beatings, that you are wrong....GOOD GRIEF! And if it ends in divorce and you meet someone else, that you are committing adultery, you have it all wrong my friend!
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 11/25/2008 1:01:37 AM
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That verse is not saying, if you leave your spouse because you are undergoing beatings, that you are wrong....GOOD GRIEF! And if it ends in divorce and you meet someone else, that you are committing adultery, you have it all wrong my friend!
Could you please provide scripture that shows abuse is grounds for divorce and that a divorce in that case ends the covenant? No, I'm, not saying one is supposed to stay in an abusive situation... but I see no scripture that says we can divorce for that reason and definitely not that we can remarry.
All of the verses in Matthew, Mark and Luke show that the guilty party as well as the innocent party who is put away is committing adultery if they remarry. Luke specifically says "EVERYONE who divorces and marries another is committing adultery"... which means the innocent wife they put away is still bound to them and not free to remarry. And it means anyone who divorces for abuse and remarries is committing adultery as well.
May they leave? Yes
May they remarry? Not according to Jesus
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 11/25/2008 11:22:50 AM
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All of the verses in Matthew, Mark and Luke show that the guilty party as well as the innocent party who is put away is committing adultery if they remarry. Luke specifically says "EVERYONE who divorces and marries another is committing adultery"... which means the innocent wife they put away is still bound to them and not free to remarry. And it means anyone who divorces for abuse and remarries is committing adultery as well.
That is simply is simply a lie!
For those who would like to check, the passages in Mathew can be found in Chapters 5 and 19.
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 11/25/2008 9:17:15 PM
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Ok Keepingfaith and SE...I have a question.
Lets say, there is a woman and man, they are married, the man comes in, he wants a divorce, because he is fed up with the financial stress that he has been under, and just wants to end the marriage, keep in mind, they are both Christians.....the woman does not want the divorce, but he goes through with it anyway. Ok, no adultery was committed, and for 7 months, after their divorce, the woman is remaining faithful to this man, her ex husband, because she has been convinced, that in the eyes of God, she is still bound to him. During these 7 months, she continues to pray, asking God to reconcile them, because she didnt want the divorce to begin with, although she had undergone mental abuse and abandonment by this man, she is still believing in a miracle, and remaining faithful.
But one day, she sees him with another woman (and lets assume, this is a new girlfriend), one that he is having sex with now.
So, now tell me. Although they have been divorced for 7 months, and she has remained faithful....has this man now committed adultery? Is this woman now free to move on with her life?
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 11/25/2008 11:10:55 PM
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(Keepingfaith said) All of the verses in Matthew, Mark and Luke show that the guilty party as well as the innocent party who is put away is committing adultery if they remarry. Luke specifically says "EVERYONE who divorces and marries another is committing adultery"... which means the innocent wife they put away is still bound to them and not free to remarry. And it means anyone who divorces for abuse and remarries is committing adultery as well.
(Benelchi said) That is simply is simply a lie!
Greetings Benelchi,
I agree with "keepingfaith"
You say to "keepingfaith" that "keepingfaith's" words are: "That is simply is simply a lie !"
I do not believe you are being an honest scholar ... "keepingfaith" is stateing a recognized scholarly position on Jesus' Doctrine of Marriage/Divorce/Remarriage. (Professor Gordon A. Wenham of Trinity College in Bristol, England among other's like Carl Laney fully agrees with "keepingfaith).
You might disagree with "keepingfaith" but you cannot state that the above quote of "keepingfaith" is a LIE. I believe you are way out of line here.
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 11/25/2008 11:13:13 PM
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(Keepingfaith said) All of the verses in Matthew, Mark and Luke show that the guilty party as well as the innocent party who is put away is committing adultery if they remarry. Luke specifically says "EVERYONE who divorces and marries another is committing adultery"... which means the innocent wife they put away is still bound to them and not free to remarry. And it means anyone who divorces for abuse and remarries is committing adultery as well.
(Benelchi said) That is simply is simply a lie!
Greetings Benelchi,
I agree with "keepingfaith"
You say to "keepingfaith" that her words are "That is simply is simply a lie !"
I do not believe you are being an honest scholar ... "keepingfaith" is stateing a recognized scholarly position on Jesus' Doctrine of Marriage/Divorce/Remarriage. (Professor Gordon A. Wenham of Trinity College in Bristol, England among other's like Carl Laney fully agrees with "keepingfaith).
You might disagree with "keepingfaith" but you cannot state that the above quote of "keepingfaith" is a LIE. I believe you are way out of line here.
For His Glory ... Huckfinn
No, the honest scholars who hold to her position acknowledge the exception clause and provide an explanation. Keepingfaith, simply dismissed its existence.
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 11/25/2008 11:22:25 PM
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(Keepingfaith said) All of the verses in Matthew, Mark and Luke show that the guilty party as well as the innocent party who is put away is committing adultery if they remarry. Luke specifically says "EVERYONE who divorces and marries another is committing adultery"... which means the innocent wife they put away is still bound to them and not free to remarry. And it means anyone who divorces for abuse and remarries is committing adultery as well.
(Benelchi said) That is simply is simply a lie!
Greetings Benelchi,
I agree with "keepingfaith"
You say to "keepingfaith" that her words are "That is simply is simply a lie !"
I do not believe you are being an honest scholar ... "keepingfaith" is stateing a recognized scholarly position on Jesus' Doctrine of Marriage/Divorce/Remarriage. (Professor Gordon A. Wenham of Trinity College in Bristol, England among other's like Carl Laney fully agrees with "keepingfaith).
You might disagree with "keepingfaith" but you cannot state that the above quote of "keepingfaith" is a LIE. I believe you are way out of line here.
For His Glory ... Huckfinn
No, the honest scholars who hold to her position acknowledge the exception clause and provide an explanation. Keepingfaith, simply dismissed its existence.
Your reply admits that she holds a scholarly position ... therefore no matter what you say her words are Not a LIE.
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 11/25/2008 11:43:52 PM
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(Keepingfaith said) All of the verses in Matthew, Mark and Luke show that the guilty party as well as the innocent party who is put away is committing adultery if they remarry. Luke specifically says "EVERYONE who divorces and marries another is committing adultery"... which means the innocent wife they put away is still bound to them and not free to remarry. And it means anyone who divorces for abuse and remarries is committing adultery as well.
(Benelchi said) That is simply is simply a lie!
Greetings Benelchi,
I agree with "keepingfaith"
You say to "keepingfaith" that her words are "That is simply is simply a lie !"
I do not believe you are being an honest scholar ... "keepingfaith" is stateing a recognized scholarly position on Jesus' Doctrine of Marriage/Divorce/Remarriage. (Professor Gordon A. Wenham of Trinity College in Bristol, England among other's like Carl Laney fully agrees with "keepingfaith).
You might disagree with "keepingfaith" but you cannot state that the above quote of "keepingfaith" is a LIE. I believe you are way out of line here.
For His Glory ... Huckfinn
No, the honest scholars who hold to her position acknowledge the exception clause and provide an explanation. Keepingfaith, simply dismissed its existence.
Your reply admits that she holds a scholarly position ... therefore no matter what you say her words are Not a LIE.
That is completely ridiculous. Your argument is similar to insisting that it would be NOT be a lie if I had said jet airplanes are lighter than air just because aerodynamic engineers say that jets can fly and I say that jets can fly. Just because aerodynamic engineers agree with my proposition that jets can fly doesn't mean they also support any false statements I have made about why jets can fly.
To be clear, a small group of scholars do believe that Mt. 5 and 19 do not permit remarriage, but they acknowledge that there is an exception clause in these passages that does allow for divorce; however, Keepingfaith rejects the works of most of these scholars because they don't buy into her complete system. In this case, Keepingfaith insinuated that there was no exception, and that is a lie regardless of how similar her position is to that of any scholar. Simply picking up and reading the text of any bible will quickly confirm that the insinuation made by her was a lie.
Enough said on that topic.
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 11/26/2008 12:00:13 AM
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(Keepingfaith said) All of the verses in Matthew, Mark and Luke show that the guilty party as well as the innocent party who is put away is committing adultery if they remarry. Luke specifically says "EVERYONE who divorces and marries another is committing adultery"... which means the innocent wife they put away is still bound to them and not free to remarry. And it means anyone who divorces for abuse and remarries is committing adultery as well.
(Benelchi said) That is simply is simply a lie!
Greetings Benelchi,
I agree with "keepingfaith"
You say to "keepingfaith" that her words are "That is simply is simply a lie !"
I do not believe you are being an honest scholar ... "keepingfaith" is stateing a recognized scholarly position on Jesus' Doctrine of Marriage/Divorce/Remarriage. (Professor Gordon A. Wenham of Trinity College in Bristol, England among other's like Carl Laney fully agrees with "keepingfaith).
You might disagree with "keepingfaith" but you cannot state that the above quote of "keepingfaith" is a LIE. I believe you are way out of line here.
For His Glory ... Huckfinn
No, the honest scholars who hold to her position acknowledge the exception clause and provide an explanation. Keepingfaith, simply dismissed its existence.
Your reply admits that she holds a scholarly position ... therefore no matter what you say her words are Not a LIE.
That is completely ridiculous. Your argument is similar to insisting that it would be NOT be a lie if I had said jet airplanes are lighter than air just because aerodynamic engineers say that jets can fly and I say that jets can fly. Just because aerodynamic engineers agree with my proposition that jets can fly doesn't mean they also support any false statements I have made about why jets can fly.
To be clear, a small group of scholars do believe that Mt. 5 and 19 do not permit remarriage, but they acknowledge that there is an exception clause in these passages that does allow for divorce; however, Keepingfaith rejects the works of most of these scholars because they don't buy into her complete system. In this case, Keepingfaith insinuated that there was no exception, and that is a lie regardless of how similar her position is to that of any scholar. Simply picking up and reading the text of any bible will quickly confirm that the insinuation made by her was a lie.
Enough said on that topic.
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(Benelchi said) To be clear, a small group of scholars do believe that Mt. 5 and 19 do not permit remarriage, but they acknowledge that there is an exception clause in these passages that does allow for divorce;
Let me assure you that the "small group" of scholars you refer to disagree with "Benelchi's" words: "they acknowledge that there is an exception clause in these passages that does allow for divorce."
I personally know some of these scholars and they DO NOT believe that the "exception clauses" of Matt. PERMIT DIVORCE under any circumstances ... and I mean ANY. In this case I see your words as in ERROR ... and then if you insist they be true ... I would have to make the judgment that "your" words are: "That is simply is simply a lie."
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 11/26/2008 11:56:14 AM
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1) This is not a natural understanding of the language of this passage. You have to really twist was written to come to this conclusion.
If we abandon the linguistic gymnastics employed by SE to get around the plain text of Duet. 24 and accept the interpretation of this verse as we know it was interpreted in the first century, and accept Jesus' dialog as a correction to that interpretation, it presents a serious problem to the viewpoint that SE continues to try and push.
agreed ... this line of reasoning has uncleanness only meaning fornication is full of problems. there was no issue of what a mate could do with their adulterous spouse (lev 20:10 death). so now this line of reasoning has God allowing a concession for adultery??? saying Jesus teaching regarding divorce & remarriage must be limited to the law of moses is just wrong.
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 11/26/2008 12:00:44 PM
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So, now tell me. Although they have been divorced for 7 months, and she has remained faithful....has this man now committed adultery? Is this woman now free to move on with her life?
she's covered twice over ... abandonment and adultery ... she can remarry
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 11/26/2008 12:02:09 PM
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I do not believe you are being an honest scholar ...
the scholars you refer to have positions that women should not be wearing shirts and sneakers and no one should celebrate Christmas and Easter ... it's hard to take these "scholars" seriously ...
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 11/26/2008 2:03:11 PM
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I do not believe you are being an honest scholar ...
(Quote of "iwillfear" )the scholars you refer to have positions that women should not be wearing shirts and sneakers and no one should celebrate Christmas and Easter ... it's hard to take these "scholars" seriously ...
Greetings,
If truth is written on a bubble gum wrapper it is never the less the TRUTH ... there is really no need to ridicule the TRUTH where ever we find it ... I'm sure Professor's Gordon Wenham and Carl Laney fail to meet your reference to "scholars" who cannot be taken seriously.
I do not believe ridicule and mockery are Christian virtues ...
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 11/26/2008 2:19:50 PM
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If truth is written on a bubble gum wrapper it is never the less the TRUTH ... there is really no need to ridicule the TRUTH where ever we find it ... I'm sure Professor's Gordon Wenham and Carl Laney fail to meet your reference to "scholars" who cannot be taken seriously.
unfortunately these scholars are intrepretating things that very few other scholars see ... and you can call it ridicule, but i think it's important for people to see the other extreme views such as women not wearing shirts and sneaks and no celebrating Christmas and Easter as i call it context and we can see where these people are coming from... and just because most people see things differently, doesn't mean they are wrong ... they are just coming from out in left field ...
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 11/26/2008 3:37:12 PM
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she's covered twice over ... abandonment and adultery ... she can remarry
OK, is the man who committed adultery and abandoned his wife also free to remarry without it being adultery? I know what Jesus says... but what do you say about this?
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 11/26/2008 3:48:48 PM
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OK, is the man who committed adultery and abandoned his wife also free to remarry without it being adultery? I know what Jesus says... but what do you say about this?
from what i read, i would answer:
prior to the man's conversion ... yes
if man was already saved ... no
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 11/26/2008 5:34:40 PM
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from what i read, i would answer:
prior to the man's conversion ... yes
if man was already saved ... no
Do saved people commit adultery and abandon their spouse? Those who are "in Christ" do this with no conscience/no conviction? No remorse/no repentance?
Let's just use this example anyway... a "saved" man commits adultery and leaves his spouse. The spouse he left is free to remarry but he is not? Is that what you are saying?
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 11/26/2008 7:46:20 PM
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If truth is written on a bubble gum wrapper it is never the less the TRUTH ... there is really no need to ridicule the TRUTH where ever we find it ... I'm sure Professor's Gordon Wenham and Carl Laney fail to meet your reference to "scholars" who cannot be taken seriously.
unfortunately these scholars are intrepretating things that very few other scholars see ... and you can call it ridicule, but i think it's important for people to see the other extreme views such as women not wearing shirts and sneaks and no celebrating Christmas and Easter as i call it context and we can see where these people are coming from... and just because most people see things differently, doesn't mean they are wrong ... they are just coming from out in left field ...
(Iwillfear said) unfortunately these scholars are intrepretating things that very few other scholars see.
Unfortunate for WHO? They have academically and spiritually labored to present their Permanency View of Marriage and the world of scholarship has honored them with the publication of their view in this debate. Those who post here should also honor their labors in this debate ... otherwise we do not have a debate. Your sarcastic comment regarding sneakers, shirts, Christmas, and Easter are totally unnecessary ... and smack of ridicule. Ridicule is not a characteristic of scholarship. Permit the Remarriage - No Remarriage Debate to go on.
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 11/26/2008 8:14:57 PM
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from what i read, i would answer:
prior to the man's conversion ... yes
if man was already saved ... no
Do saved people commit adultery and abandon their spouse? Those who are "in Christ" do this with no conscience/no conviction? No remorse/no repentance?
Let's just use this example anyway... a "saved" man commits adultery and leaves his spouse. The spouse he left is free to remarry but he is not? Is that what you are saying?
Keepingfaith...by your questioning, are you saying that there havent been "saved" people who have done these things?
1 John 3:9 NO ONE who is born of God practices sin, because His seed abides in him; and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
1 John 2:3-6 By this we know that we have come to know Him, if we keep His commandments. The one who says, "I have come to know Him," and does not keep His commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him; but whoever keeps His word, in him the love of God has truly been perfected. By this we know that we are in Him: the one who says he abides in Him ought himself to walk in the same manner as He walked.
Ephesians 5:5-8 For this you know with certainty, that no immoral or impure person or covetous man, who is an idolater, has an inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and God. Let no one deceive you with empty words, for because of these things the wrath of God comes upon the sons of disobedience. Therefore do not be partakers with them; for you were formerly darkness, but now you are Light in the Lord; walk as children of Light
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 11/26/2008 8:57:56 PM
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(Iwillfear said) unfortunately these scholars are intrepretating things that very few other scholars see.
Unfortunate for WHO? They have academically and spiritually labored to present their Permanency View of Marriage and the world of scholarship has honored them with the publication of their view in this debate. Those who post here should also honor their labors in this debate ... otherwise we do not have a debate. Your sarcastic comment regarding sneakers, shirts, Christmas, and Easter are totally unnecessary ... and smack of ridicule. Ridicule is not a characteristic of scholarship. Permit the Remarriage - No Remarriage Debate to go on.
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The reality is that very little from the "no remarriage ever" people on this forum is ever posted from scholarly sources. You and LastBlast, I believe, are about the only ones so far who have ever done so, and when that was done I actually appreciated it. Most of the others supporting the view you hold on this thread consistently and very vocally disregard all scholarship. In fact, they often present things that even the scholars who do support their point of view will not support. My favorite example from this thread came from SE when he (not knowing any Hebrew) tried to make a case for understanding Duet 24:1-4 differently based on his "understanding" of the Hebrew grammar. When I asked for just one reference from any Hebrew scholar who would support his claims about the Hebrew grammar, he simply told me that his claim was correct because it couldn't possibly be wrong i.e. when he could not demonstrate any scholarly support for an erroneous claim, he was still right?
When someone does present the work of a serious scholar I will always take a good look at what has been presented, as I did with the paper you presented. Remember the one in which the author posited the idea that modern translations were based on Erasmus' Textual emendation. I do believe the weight of the evidence is heavily against his position because all modern critical Greek texts reject that emendation, and these critical text were used as the bases for all of the modern translations which he rejects. However, I did appreciate it when you provided his work and, as you know, I did read it, in its entirety. If you look through the history of this thread, you will find that I most seriously engage those who are willing to provide sources for the claims they have made.
I am open to an honest debate on this topic if you are. A serious and honest debate would be far more enjoyable for me and would be something in which I would be happy to engage in providing that only credible sources for the arguments are allowed. And by credible source I mean that an argument based on Greek grammar should be supported by someone who is an academically accepted expert in Biblical Greek, like a translator involved on the committee any major biblical translation, a Greek professor at any major university, or someone who has been published in any academically accepted biblical Greek journal. Claims based on Hebrew linguistics, or claims based on archeological finds should come from sources equally as credible.
I do expect that if you decide to engage in this kind of debate, you will be alone in defending the position you hold. Do you honestly believe that SE or Keepingfaith would be willing to discontinue arguing points for which they cannot find any support from any experts in the field of study on which their claims are based? Keepingfaith's "EVERYONE" argument is a great example of one of the unsupportable arguments that she refuses to drop. I really doubt that they would be willing to engage in this kind of debate if it meant giving up their "favorite" arguments.
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 11/26/2008 9:13:18 PM
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Well then Mr. Greek scholar, what does "pas" mean in Greek if not "everyone"?
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 11/26/2008 9:29:52 PM
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keepingfaith
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Keepingfaith's "EVERYONE" argument is a great example of one of the unsupportable arguments that she refuses to drop.
It is most certainly supported by the expert Himself............. my JESUS!!! And His words win every time!
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RE: Remarriage After Divorce - One Stop Thread - 11/26/2008 9:31:12 PM
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