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RE: Prince Charles - 11/5/2005 4:57:07 PM
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I think Charles is here to convince Bush to take a harder stand on the environment, and to do the routine "our countries need to stick together " thing. We send Presidents over there occasionally to do the same thing, shore up relations.
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/5/2005 6:45:37 PM
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I found a few links and I am sure there are lots more to prove the existance of his statue just type statues of Prince Charles.
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/5/2005 10:30:06 PM
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here are some links with info of the statue of Charles in it.
http://cuttingedge.org/news/n1678.cfm
http://www.cephas-library.com/prophecy/prophecy_antichrist.html
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=254272002
http://www.bedoper.com/reptilian/archive2.htm
Earth day. Winged Prince [Charles] is 'Savior of the World': The Prince of Wales is to be immortalized in bronze as a muscular, winged god dressed in nothing more than a loincloth. He will be the first living member of the Royal Family to have a life-size statue dedicated in his honor. Although the Prince is destined to become Defender of the Faith when he becomes King of England, the inscription on the statue in Brazil will honor him as 'Savior of the World.'....
"The sculpture, which will invite comparisons with the statue of Christ overlooking Rio de Janeiro from Corcovado, is set on a marble base. At its feet is an untidy mass of human bodies, one drinking from a bottle of wine, which is said to represent the world in a mess which the Prince is busy saving....
"Civic leaders commissioned the work in honor of the Prince’s efforts in highlighting the threat to the rainforests from global warming. ...The Prince has regularly courted controversy with his views on the environment. In 2000 he was branded arrogant and ignorant by scientists after he blamed mankind’s arrogance and disregard for the delicate balances of nature for severe weather conditions buffeting Europe." Rom 1:22-32
Dear goingupupup,
Thanks for the links. The statue is real, Prince Charles is real, and the ant-Christ is real, as he is well attested to in Scripture. Paul even admonishes the Thessalonians that the day of the Lord would not take place until there come first the "falling away and the man of sin, the son of perdition, be revealed". Hence I look for him to be revealed soon, for the "falling away" has certainly already begun. Many have already turned away from the truth, as the Bible, God's Holy Word, has been attacked and marginalized relentlessly in the media and banned from the public school and public square. Since 1963 violence and drugs have escalated in our schools and in our streets, even as Biblical literacy has diminished. Small wonder that most of todays youth cannot name three disciples, but can name every member of the backstreet boys.
The fact that the Bible prophesied that there would be a falling away does not lessen my sorrow at seeing so many stray from the truth. However, I am cheered in knowing that these things necessarily preceed the coming of our Lord, Jesus Christ, who will set things right when He arrives, including vanquishing the anti-Christ. "Then shall that wicked one be revealed whom the Lord shall consume with the Spirit of His mouth and shall destroy with the brightness of His coming, even him whose coming is after the working of Satan, with all power and signs and lying wonders." 2Thes. 2: 8-9.
Ironically, many will not take the Bible seriously, hence will not heed the warnings that are given, but will rather listen to the smooth comforting words of today's secular humanist prophets proclaiming "peace, peace, when there is no peace". The anti-Christ will offer peace under the cloak of a one world government with a one world religion in which all religions are equal, only some religions being more equal than others. Sounds like something right out of George Orwell's Animal Farm, or rather the UN and its United Religions Initiative (URI), evangelical protestants need not apply. Hence when radical Islam rears its ugly head a peacekeeper will miraculously appear to join the faiths together, to accomodate all the religious perspectives, much as Prince Charles has been doing the bulk of his adult life. To discount the Prince of Wales, the future king of England would be shortsighted and foolhardy, especially since he fits much of the profile presented in Scripture, as does his son, William. As for me and my family, we will serve the Lord.
In Christ,
Ariel
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/6/2005 4:50:20 PM
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oh please don't provoke her as we'll have to put up with her repeating all her threads to date, I don't know why if you want to discuss something, others who have no opionion other than scarcasism want to mock others, I guess it is up to us to respond or not, I no longer play head games with these types, as I already had my go around in circles and got tired of chasing empty arguements, as so did others in these forums, it don't matter what proof or opinion you have there are some who will scoff and add nothing construtive to the thread, the bible says there will be scoffers in the last days,
what does it matter if we want to waste our time it is our time and it is only our opinion of ourselves that matters as "other peoples opinion of me are none of my business" and "have a nice day unless you have other plans" or ""more will be revealed" is my favorite sayings hope some of you will find them useful in your everyday conversations.
Getting back to Charles it would be interesting to get a list of all the company's and clubs of the world he is involved in, I'll go on a search and see what I can find, if anybody knows of any please post them so we can have a look. thanks
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/6/2005 7:10:39 PM
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Isaiah29
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oh please don't provoke her as we'll have to put up with her repeating all her threads to date, I don't know why if you want to discuss something, others who have no opionion other than scarcasism want to mock others, I guess it is up to us to respond or not, I no longer play head games with these types, as I already had my go around in circles and got tired of chasing empty arguements, as so did others in these forums, it don't matter what proof or opinion you have there are some who will scoff and add nothing construtive to the thread, the bible says there will be scoffers in the last days,
what does it matter if we want to waste our time it is our time and it is only our opinion of ourselves that matters as "other peoples opinion of me are none of my business" and "have a nice day unless you have other plans" or ""more will be revealed" is my favorite sayings hope some of you will find them useful in your everyday conversations.
Getting back to Charles it would be interesting to get a list of all the company's and clubs of the world he is involved in, I'll go on a search and see what I can find, if anybody knows of any please post them so we can have a look. thanks
Dear Goingupupup,
In regards to Prince Charles' controlling interest in many global corporations, I believe Joan Veon has probably written the definitive work thus far. Her book "The Sustainable Prince", is a veritable gold mine of information on his holdings as well as his involvement in the UN, the US' own version of the Trojan horse, which Great Britain lobbied heavily to create after the collapse of the first world government attempt, ie. the ill fated "League of Nations".
The anti-Christ will need a mechanism with which to control the daily lives of the "citizens of the world", and the UN is well on its way to becoming just that mechanism, bringing huge areas of the world's surface under its domain through its various, nefarious treaties, by which it continues to subsume the sovereignty of nations; in many cases sovereignty over land, water, air and even people. We already have large restricted biodiversity preserves in America, and the rest of the world, cordoned off and overseen by the UN.
The World Wildlife Fund, created by Prince Phillip, works the same agenda, continuing to carve out enormous portions of the world's habitable surface for "game preserves". My guess is that these will get ever larger in accordance with the illuminati plan to depopulate and deindustrialize North America, as well as much of the rest of the world, thus returning the planet to its original pristine condition, pre-man so to speak. This is why Prince Phillip stated he wanted to return as a virus, in order to reduce the world's population and thus lessen the deleterious effect mankind is supposed to be having upon mother earth, the mystical Gaia.
Prince Charles' leadership and development of the Green movement cannot be understated, for it lends a certain amount of light on his and Camilla's recent visit to the organic farming community in California.. That he would spotlight the simple organic farming methods featured in Marin County, while maintaining a controlling interest in Archer Daniel Midland Corporation, the world's largest mega farm corporation, may seem contradictory at first. But much like Michael Moore railing at multinational corporations while owning stock in the same, there is a Prince Charles for the public viewing, and there is the behind the scenes Prince Charles. The public Prince Charles wants to save the world. The private Prince Charles wants to rule it.
If he is not carving up the planet for himself, then Prince Charles is quite possibly laying the groundwork for his eldest son, Prince William to step in and take control. As I stated before, there is also compelling evidence indicating that Prince William could also be a viable candidate, especially when viewing the anti-Christ as being "opposite" to Christ, as opposed to simply "against" Christ, or "instead" of Christ, but that can be discussed at a later time.
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Ariel
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/6/2005 8:26:59 PM
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Antichrist is a way of being.
Antichrist is indulging in the lust of the flesh, the lust of the eye, and the pride of life while professing Christ.
This will destroy a soul.
Each man is responsible to resist this. Not just one.
Know ye not that ye are the temple and that the Spirit dwells in you....?
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/6/2005 8:45:12 PM
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yes I agree that your statement about it being a state of mind, however the bible states he is a man and it tells us alot about him and what he will represent he will totally be the opposite of Jesus and will deceive many.
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/6/2005 10:10:17 PM
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Isaiah29
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yes I agree that your statement about it being a state of mind, however the bible states he is a man and it tells us alot about him and what he will represent he will totally be the opposite of Jesus and will deceive many.
Dear goingupupup,
As you have said, the anti-Christ will be the opposite of Jesus. Hence, let us engage in a cursory study of opposites.
1: Jesus was born poor, hence the anti-Christ will likely be born rich.
2: Jesus was born and raised in obscurity, hence the anti-Christ will likely be born into and raised in a famous family.
3: Jesus was born in the winter, near the winter soltice, the shortest day of the year, to bring a light to the darkness. Hence the anti-Christ should be born in the summer, on or around the summer solstice, to bring darkness instead of light, even while masquerading as light.
4: Jesus' birth was heralded by a new star in the sky, the anti-Christ should be heralded by an eclipse of some sort.
5: Jesus had no beauty that we should desire him. The anti-Christ should by strikingly handsome.
6: Although the true the king of Israel, Jesus lived and died as a commoner, hence although the anti-Christ is really a commoner, but he will live and die as a king.
7: Jesus is the Prince of Peace, the anti-Christ will be a man of war.
Now a word about Prince William,
1: He was born into one of the wealthiest families in the world.
2: He has been world famous from birth as the future King of England.
3: He was born during the summer soltice, June 21, 1982.
4: There was a partial solar eclipse on that day. (and a total solar eclipse on his 19th
birthday)
5: He is extremely good looking.
6: He is already treated as royalty, complete with his own security detail.
7: He just joined Sandhurst Military Academy to begin his training as a military officer, to
prepare to be Commander and Chief of the Military once he ascends the throne.
And there's more!
Jesus is the "Son of man", William is the son of "Charles" whose name means "Man"
Jesus was born to Mary, who has been elevated to Queen of Heaven by the RCC
Prince William was born to Diana, named after the goddess, Diana, who also was called "Queen of the Heavens". The principal city where Diana was worshipped was Ephesus, the same city where Mary, the mother of Jesus, was given the title, "Theotokos", mother of God, at the Council of Ephesus in 431AD, thus paving the way for her title, "Queen of Heaven". Incidentally, William was born at St. Mary's Hospital, not at Winsor Castle as was customary for the other royal births.
Hence, To some Prince William will be seen as the son of "Man" (Charles)" and the "Queen of Heaven (Diana)", especially by those involved in the occult. In other words, William is the offspring of a mortal man (Charles) and a goddess, (Diana)-though not in reality, even as Jesus is the offspring of motal woman and God, in reality. There are other oppositions in the birth accounts, but time will not allow me to get into them now. Some other time perhaps.
In Christ,
Ariel
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/6/2005 10:14:01 PM
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: Jesus was born in the winter, near the winter soltice, the shortest day of the year
Where do you get that from? Because the Roman Catholic church decided to declare Dec. 25 the day of Christ's Mass?
The date of Christ's birth is unknown to us. Many speculate that it occurred in the spring.
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/6/2005 10:31:58 PM
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Isaiah29
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: Jesus was born in the winter, near the winter soltice, the shortest day of the year
Where do you get that from? Because the Roman Catholic church decided to declare Dec. 25 the day of Christ's Mass?
The date of Christ's birth is unknown to us. Many speculate that it occurred in the spring.
Dear Karen,
It matters little that some speculate that Jesus' birth occured in the spring. The universally recognized date which is celebrated as the birth of Christ is Dec. 25. I can't speak to the authenticity of the date, or whether it was an invention of the RCC. However, I can speak to when Christmas is celebrated by Christians worldwide. If you can find anyone, anywhere, celebrating Jesus' birth in the spring, let me know. I'd like to meet these people. Nevertheless, thank you for responding. It shows me that you are at least thinking these matters through. What I have shared is but the tip of the iceberg, but like most icebergs, only the tip is visible at surface level.
In Christ,
Ariel
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/7/2005 5:55:32 AM
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man of sin - human sin
son of perdition - result of spiritual ruin.
Actually the Bible never personifies antichrist. John, who is the only one to use the word, never personified it.
You are in error.
Mankind is falling away from truth by leaps and bounds. The only man necessary to make that happen is each individual.
Look in the mirror, not the news.
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/7/2005 7:51:31 AM
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Isaiah29
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man of sin - human sin
son of perdition - result of spiritual ruin.
Actually the Bible never personifies antichrist. John, who is the only one to use the word, never personified it.
You are in error.
Mankind is falling away from truth by leaps and bounds. The only man necessary to make that happen is each individual.
Look in the mirror, not the news.
Dear Professor,
You err when you say the Bible "never personifies anti-Christ". It is true that neither Paul nor John refer to the man of sin, the son of perdition as the anti-Christ. However both refer to a specific individual who will rise in the endtimes, preceeding the second coming of Christ, who will manifest all the attributes of "anti-Christ".
"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sits in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God." 2Thes. 2: 2-4.
"And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world." Rev. 13: 4-8.
These two descriptions also seem eerily similar to the endtime individual Daniel prophesied against.
36And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done. Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things. Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain." Dan. 11: 36-39
There are many other references in Scripture as to the nature of this detestable individual, but if you will not receive the Scriptures I have already posted, then you will certainly not receive the rest of what I have to say.
In Christ,
Ariel
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/7/2005 8:19:42 AM
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how abuot referencing some CREDIBLE sources? Such as one that can back up that the statue mentioned in the afore scribed website is legit?
I put a few more links up and I think you'll find them legit, good reading the links are at post # 29 .
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RE: Prince Charles - 11/7/2005 8:21:22 AM
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ORIGINAL: TheProfessor
man of sin - human sin
son of perdition - result of spiritual ruin.
Actually the Bible never personifies antichrist. John, who is the only one to use the word, never personified it.
You are in error.
Mankind is falling away from truth by leaps and bounds. The only man necessary to make that happen is each individual.
Look in the mirror, not the news.
Dear Professor,
You err when you say the Bible "never personifies anti-Christ". It is true that neither Paul nor John refer to the man of sin, the son of perdition as the anti-Christ. However both refer to a specific individual who will rise in the endtimes, preceeding the second coming of Christ, who will manifest all the attributes of "anti-Christ".
"Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sits in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God." 2Thes. 2: 2-4.
"And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months. And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven. And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world." Rev. 13: 4-8.
These two descriptions also seem eerily similar to the endtime individual Daniel prophesied against.
36And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done. Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all. But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things. Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain." Dan. 11: 36-39
There are many other references in Scripture as to the nature of this detestable individual, but if you will not receive the Scriptures I have already posted, then you will certainly not receive the rest of what I have to say.
In Christ,
Ariel
Great post and the scriptures really do back up your arguement. Keep up the good work.
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