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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/21/2008 9:01:22 PM   
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Well, I just wound up letting my mother get under my skin. I wish I wouldn't let her bother me so. She was made at me because at my son's graduation party, I didn't want any pictures taken of me. I've put on so much weight that I feel like a fat, ugly cow!! After about the 4th or 5th pic she took of me, I asked her not to take anymore. I told her that I'd pose for family pics, but no more random shots of me please. Well, apparently I ruined the whole party over this and I just listened to 5 minutes of how I shouldn't be so vain! That 5 minutes seemed like hours! I wish I wouldn't let her under my skin like that!!

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/21/2008 9:51:11 PM   
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/21/2008 9:54:05 PM   
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There's kinda two things here.

1. Others may later want to remember you - even if YOU don't like how you look (which means enduring a few pics and learning to somehow be at peace with the idea of having pics taken). FWIW, I'm not a fan of having my pic taken either, and it's largely because of relatives that thought it was their duty to tell me stuff like how I could "be pretty if I'd just lose some weight" and these relatives were often the ones who were later (and usually not much later) wondering why I wasn't wanting my picture taken AT ALL by anyone for anything. Which leads to #2...

2. Not everyone likes having their picture taken and whether or not the picture taker agrees with the reasons (like in the case of my relatives who'd argue "but you're not too fat for pictures") or whether or not they see goo reasons to take a picture any way (like my mention that someday someone else may want a pic of you to remember you by) doesn't override a person's right to not have pictures taken.

So while you - purely for your sake - may want to make some sort of peace with the body you're in, nobody should have been blown out of sorts (much less lecturing you about vanity or implying you ruined the party) because you politely exercised your right to not have your pic taken.

Well, I know what I meant. I have a feeling I've once again been as clear as mud.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/21/2008 9:55:33 PM   
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Thanks Manda- I needed that. Especially since I just remembered that she bought tickets for Liz and I to go visit her from June 27 to July 3. There's no internet service at all where she is at, so I can't even come vent.

I'm sure we'll get along fine..... I still have your phone number in case we don't though!

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/21/2008 11:12:06 PM   
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I think Bipolar I is severe mood swings between extreme mania and severe depression. Bipolar II is more mild mania (a.k.a. hypomania) and depression. There can be psychotic symptoms with both, but that could also be schizoaffective disorder, which has both schizophrenia and bipolar symptoms.

If you go to a website like webmd or nami, you might be able to find out more information about it.

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/22/2008 12:17:05 AM   
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Hi Melissa- we haven't seen you around this thread in a while!

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/22/2008 12:23:53 AM   
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quote:

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There's kinda two things here.

1. Others may later want to remember you - even if YOU don't like how you look (which means enduring a few pics and learning to somehow be at peace with the idea of having pics taken). FWIW, I'm not a fan of having my pic taken either, and it's largely because of relatives that thought it was their duty to tell me stuff like how I could "be pretty if I'd just lose some weight" and these relatives were often the ones who were later (and usually not much later) wondering why I wasn't wanting my picture taken AT ALL by anyone for anything. Which leads to #2...

2. Not everyone likes having their picture taken and whether or not the picture taker agrees with the reasons (like in the case of my relatives who'd argue "but you're not too fat for pictures") or whether or not they see goo reasons to take a picture any way (like my mention that someday someone else may want a pic of you to remember you by) doesn't override a person's right to not have pictures taken.

So while you - purely for your sake - may want to make some sort of peace with the body you're in, nobody should have been blown out of sorts (much less lecturing you about vanity or implying you ruined the party) because you politely exercised your right to not have your pic taken.

Well, I know what I meant. I have a feeling I've once again been as clear as mud.


Well, it's been a few hours now, her comments aren't bothering me as much. Bottom line is that I attempted to set a boundary with her and she had to make that sound like a bad thing.

I told her that I would pose for some pictures and I didn't ask her to delete the ones she'd already taken.

This body I'm in keeps getting bigger. In fact, that is a large part of the reason that I was supposed to have blood work done Friday.... they never did call me back so I have to get on the phone Monday morning.

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/22/2008 12:24:34 AM   
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Hi Melissa!

Roberta, I hope I didn't make you feel uncomfortable with what I said/posted. Photos and weight/body image are both really touchy subjects not just with me, but with most of my family (in pretty much any direction). So I might have just been muttering along about my own issues, if so, sorry.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/22/2008 12:28:44 AM   
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No, I wasn't uncomfortable. I just want to get to the bottom of the reasons for the weight gain before I even think about accepting it.

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/22/2008 2:40:38 PM   
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I've been gaining weight too. After having achieved my goal of going under 200 lbs, now I've gained 4 1/2 lbs back, which is depressing because I'm feeling depressed and irritable. A few days ago, I became upset and yelled at a few people for gossiping about me. They were calling me a word meaning female dog, and saying that I needed to mind my own business. The problem began when I asked one of them to stop an annoying behavior that was irritating to me. I was just being assertive, but apparently, the person didn't take it too well.

I've been feeling bad since then, just crying all the time, because I feel like I should have had better control of my emotions and so I'm a failure as a Christian because of it. I feel like a failure because I'm eating too much again too. I don't feel like exercising or doing housework and just want to stay in bed.

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/22/2008 3:11:20 PM   
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((((Melissa)))) standing up for yourself is being a good Christian.

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/22/2008 4:05:31 PM   
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In the Depression Workbook by Minirth and ________ (the name's escaped me) there's a chapter dedicated to standing up for yourself. They say that one of the contributers to depression is a history of NOT standing up for ourselves. It made sense to me. I'm so good at trying to please everyone at my own expense. It's not a good idea but it's a hard behaviour to break. Good for you for speaking up! And too bad if others don't like it.

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/22/2008 5:51:38 PM   
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anyone- what is the difference between bipolar 1 and bipolar 2?
I know that some have offered explanations so I won't add. I would suggest that you talk to your therapist about this (as it was her you had the initial discussion with) but as she's off sick... I can't recall what your diagnosis is, but when push comes to shove, it's your psychiatrist who should be telling you your diagnosis and then talking to you about it. It's not usual for therapists to make diagnosis. My therapist and psychiatrist worked together (ie communicated) and would discuss patients, I'd never expect my therapist to tell me what conditions I did/didn't have.

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Bottom line is that I attempted to set a boundary with her and she had to make that sound like a bad thing.
Setting a boundary may not have worked, but you tried to do it, so as Maggie said, 'Good for you'! Admitting your needs are not always easy or possible but you did it.

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/23/2008 1:13:41 PM   
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She asked me if I was 1 or 2. I told her that I didn't know. I don't know if she talked to my pdoc or not because I haven't seen her since.

I go to the new therapist tomorrow.

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/23/2008 4:26:35 PM   
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If it's still bugging you, you're still seeing the pdoc aren't you? Why don't you ask them? They'd be the one to know best anyway.

I got some good news today - my doc actually got AND filled out AND mailed in the paperwork she had to do relating to my request to be my own SSDI payee. Which means I'm now just waiting for a decision.

And some bad news. SOMETHING is all wonky again - not sure if it's a new medical problem or just another bad med reaction - but I'm bloated up HUGE (I look pregnant and I'm glad I never freecycled all my fat clothes because I can barely get into them I'm so bloated) plus my heartrate is 90+ at rest with any exercise sending up very high very quickly then it takes forever to get back to 90-ish. So I have an appointment with my GI doc on Wed. everybody decided it was her business because of the bloating.

Actually two bits of bad news. The second one is worse. A good online friend has colon cancer. After months (yeah, months) she finally got confirmation today of the firm diagnosis.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/23/2008 4:51:00 PM   
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WIC, that's good news about your doctor getting that paperwork filled out. I'll pray that the SSA will rule in your favor regarding your own payee request.

I agree, you need to get that bloating checked out. It sounds serious. It's sad to hear about your friend. I'll keep her or him in my prayers.

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I've made an appointment with my therapist today. I woke up this morning feeling really depressed and am just barely hanging on. My usual coping skills are barely keeping the negative thoughts away. I'm hoping she doesn't do anything other than listen to me, because I will NOT go into the hospital because I have family responsibilities right now and can't take off from them.

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/23/2008 10:53:09 PM   
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I'm feeling much better now. The negative thoughts are gone. I saw my therapist and she talked with me about how I am doing so well with my diet and not give up. She also advised me that there are some people who may or may not be mentally ill who don't take criticism very well and that's why they reacted the way they did to my request. I don't have to blame myself for their immature behavior.

I thought that I should apologize to them for my outburst, but my relative said that I don't need to do that since I was in the right and they were a bunch of (idiots). I'm feeling better about the whole thing and will try not to dwell on it anymore. If I see them again, I'll just be nice to them and ignore their behavior quirks.

I'm also going to stop overeating so much to comfort myself. I'm going to turn to my Father instead of food next time something or someone upsets me.

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/24/2008 12:43:01 AM   
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wic- I hope you get those medical issues cleared up quickly.

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/24/2008 11:47:37 AM   
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I go see the new therapist today and I'm quite nervous about it.

I talked to her very briefly on the phone yesterday. It was just basically her calling to see if I'd be coming today and making sure I knew how to get there.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/24/2008 12:07:18 PM   
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Most people feel that way about first appointments Roberta. It was good of her to phone you though.

WIC ~ sorry about the bloating (and your friend). I'm glad that you're getting to see someone quickly though.

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/24/2008 12:34:52 PM   
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Most people feel that way about first appointments Roberta. It was good of her to phone you though.


True and it is reassuring to be reminded of that.

I think the most nerve wracking thing is the drive there. I hate being lost (as do many people.) It's in a very tricky part of town and it usually takes me two or three trips before I can finally find what I'm looking for with out "taking the scenic route" - KWIM?
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/24/2008 12:41:10 PM   
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Yeah. I guess I don't really have that problem as I no longer drive, but I do understand. I have a hang up about being late so nearly always end up catching a bus earlier than I really need to in order to arrive in time for my appointments.

And I've been known to travel the trip at least once before the appointment to know where I'm going!

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/24/2008 12:47:52 PM   
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Yeah. I guess I don't really have that problem as I no longer drive, but I do understand. I have a hang up about being late so nearly always end up catching a bus earlier than I really need to in order to arrive in time for my appointments.


I give myself at least half an hour to get anywhere. Even if it's only a five minute drive! LOL!
The only places I go are to visit relatives, church, grocery shopping, therapy and drs. appts. When school is in session there are events that I go to for my dd. So, it doesn't matter if I get there too early or not.

This place is supposed to take 10-15 minutes to get to. I'm giving myself an hour.

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And I've been known to travel the trip at least once before the appointment to know where I'm going!


I used to do that before I had to start borrowing vehicles and outrageous gas prices.
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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/24/2008 12:57:20 PM   
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That's the advantage of having a bus pass. Free travel ~ though it does take longer to get anywhere generally. Plus side is that I don't have to find a parking space or pay to park anywhere!

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RE: Mental Health Encouragement. - 6/24/2008 12:59:12 PM   
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I haven't used public transportation in so long that I don't know if I could figure it out. Here, it's not free and can sometimes cost more than what you'd spend on gas to get to where you need to go.
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