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Hischild1994 -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (1/19/2006 7:32:36 PM)

I have a problem with panic attacks that accompany repressed memories that are popping up.
Sometimes this will happen at home or when I'm alone and that is ok because I can deal with them.
However, sometimes it will happen while I'm at work taking care of customers at work. That is not a good time. I do take Klonopin for them, but the Klonopin can take 10-15 minutes to work sometimes.
Any suggestions?



womaninchrist -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (1/20/2006 12:02:12 AM)

Latic - keep us posted on the VNS. It sounds very interesting.

Hischild1994 - have you/do you see a psychiatrist or therapist? That the panic attacks are often associated with repressed memories makes me wonder about PTSD. There are specific (though often unpleasant) therapies to help with PTSD that (in the hands of a GOOD and properly trained therapist) can be of great benefit. Just speaking from the basis of personal experience with similar problems.



salos -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (1/20/2006 1:41:06 AM)

I've outgrown PTSD panic attacks, fortunately!!!!! My psychiatrist was a big help, mostly because he showed me kindness and respect. It takes time to get past things like that. Remember it has nothing to do with morality or personal value. It's a nervous system thing.



chislev -> Going insane? (1/27/2006 1:36:52 PM)

Have you ever felt you mental stability slowly slipping away? Can't sleep. Don't want to eat, think weird thoughts, and have this weird sense of being disconnected from everything. What should I do?



Fritzpw_Admin -> RE: Going insane? (1/27/2006 1:39:22 PM)

See a doctor.



agapetos -> RE: Going insane? (1/27/2006 2:09:48 PM)

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See a doctor.

I'd agree with that.



Hischild1994 -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (2/7/2006 10:21:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: womaninchrist

Latic - keep us posted on the VNS. It sounds very interesting.

Hischild1994 - have you/do you see a psychiatrist or therapist? That the panic attacks are often associated with repressed memories makes me wonder about PTSD. There are specific (though often unpleasant) therapies to help with PTSD that (in the hands of a GOOD and properly trained therapist) can be of great benefit. Just speaking from the basis of personal experience with similar problems.


Yes, I've been getting treatment through meds and therapy.

What does PTSD stand for?



Ps103 -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (2/7/2006 1:09:42 PM)

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What does PTSD stand for?


Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder.



JamesPr -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (2/12/2006 10:51:27 AM)

What I think about mental illness after being mentally ill for most of my life, and then being on medication for about four years.

Mental illness is being able to think outside the box, where the box would be normal human thinking. Some people can do that already being sane. The mentally ill always think outside the box, if they choose to try and think at all.

Many of the mentally ill people that do think and try come up with great works of humanity. Mozart (Bi-Polar), Isaac Newton (He is said to have something), and many writers, poets, and artists.

I'm in no way advocating not getting treatment. Treatment has made my life a lot better. What I'm advocating, is not giving up, when in being cursed with this illness that destroys your life it can be a blessing if you choose to live and learn with it.

I remember when I was younger I could think and calculate complex mathematical problems in my head without using a calculator. I thought up many theories on things that have been already thought up previously. Things like predestination and some parts of evolution.

Ok, thank you for reading my little splurge I appreciate it.



Hischild1994 -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (2/14/2006 10:43:57 AM)

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What does PTSD stand for?


Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder.


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Hischild1994 -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (2/14/2006 10:45:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: JamesPr

What I think about mental illness after being mentally ill for most of my life, and then being on medication for about four years.

Mental illness is being able to think outside the box, where the box would be normal human thinking. Some people can do that already being sane. The mentally ill always think outside the box, if they choose to try and think at all.

Many of the mentally ill people that do think and try come up with great works of humanity. Mozart (Bi-Polar), Isaac Newton (He is said to have something), and many writers, poets, and artists.

I'm in no way advocating not getting treatment. Treatment has made my life a lot better. What I'm advocating, is not giving up, when in being cursed with this illness that destroys your life it can be a blessing if you choose to live and learn with it.

I remember when I was younger I could think and calculate complex mathematical problems in my head without using a calculator. I thought up many theories on things that have been already thought up previously. Things like predestination and some parts of evolution.

Ok, thank you for reading my little splurge I appreciate it.


Charles Dickens was also considered bi-polar.



womaninchrist -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (2/14/2006 2:40:34 PM)

Hischild1994, sorry about that. Someday I hope to remember I have a tendency to post in shorthand BEFORE someone asks me to translate my posts.

I hope this next paragraph doesn't offend anyone. It's just been the subject of many interesting convos that I've had with people about the overlap between religion and mental illness. Worth mention as a side note, not all the people in these convos were Christian...

The subject of how we view the mentally ill and what really constitutes mentally ill is an interesting one. I can think of a few cultures off the top of my head where things that'd get you put on meds or in a safe place in urban American culture would get you recognized as blessed or gifted and they'd encourage you to study and share what your "illness" teaches/shows you. On a related note, I've seen several lists where modern psychiatrists studied what the Bible documented of the prophets and some of the other major people it speaks of and the majority of them have criteria (i.e. "symptoms") that'd get them easily labeled with a major mental illness - often bipolar 1, schizoaffective or schizophrenia. I'm not sure where I stand on any of this, but it sure can be interesting to think about.



Homegrownkids -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (3/4/2006 3:24:32 PM)

I would be interested in knowing what Bible characters are said to have certain illnesses. My hubby has OCD, anxiety, prone to depression...
At times, I go "crazy" knowing he's going through stuff. But, at the same time, I think what he has makes him to be a sensitive, caring, individual.

I know there are many famous minsisters, or hymnal writers that have had mental struggles.... and they've done great things for ministry! So... It would be nice to find out which Bible Characters coulf of possibly had mental problems. I know Timothy was a very timid person...maybe it was a personality thing, maybe it was more? I don't know.

All I know is that the brain can go bad, just like any other parts of our body.



womaninchrist -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (3/4/2006 4:48:16 PM)

Iluvmyblessings, I'd have to do some searching to find some of the lists again, but the typical list is that David was bipolar, the prophets had schizophrenia or schizoaffective, and a few others had mental illnesses but I forget who else had what illness.



Homegrownkids -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (3/4/2006 7:59:14 PM)

Do you know why they think that these Biblical People had these things? I know God used people in the Bible...Like Moses with a speach problem... so I'm not doubting that some of these men could of had mental illness. I am curious as to how they came to this concusion though. Whether it is true or false....I'm sure it could be encouraging that have major struggles.



womaninchrist -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (3/4/2006 9:48:20 PM)

Supposedly the lists are based on interpretation of the various people's "symptoms " as described in the Bible. David is said to be bipolar because of how his life repeatedly swung between highs and lows and because of some of the particular things he did (like what he had done so that it'd be "ok" for him to sleep with one woman). The diagnoses of the prophets typically assumes that their visions and such really were hallucinations and/or delusions.

It's really hard to say whether or not the diagnoses are accurate - but I do find myself forced to admit that many things we now consider to be signs of mental illness or of demonic activity. I wonder what happened between then and now that made those men recognized as mighty men of God while people who see & do similar now are subjected to exorcisms (or "deliverance services" depending on your particular church) or they're cast aside as mentally ill and forced onto medication. I find this especially interesting considering that by far most "psychoses" involve some sort of spiritual or religious theme. Just one of those weird things I tend to think about.



Giulia -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (3/7/2006 4:01:39 AM)

I'm not sure, just know that there have been extensive studies done on food consumption and it's affect on our wellbeing, this would include the mind and it's well being.

It has been found in the secular world (needless to say, they do discover and contribute some truth through science and observation) the foods children eat affect their concentration in class. Also physical activity plays a large role in active listening.

If a child does not do any activity it is more likely he/ she will not be actively participating in learning.

Of course,then you have enviromental influences, as well as intellectual and physical influences and these, I believe, derive from spiritual impressions which have taken their root in your psyche as far back as your time in the womb.

Personally I was full of demonic activity I had demons cast out of me through the laying on of hands, once these were out peace caressed my soul.

The job would not of been complete unless I was born again. This happened later, alone with my bible.

To be born again is the only real and lasting cure, then behold, old things pass away and all is made new.

The real issue is one of the state of your soul, if you feed off darkness you will be full of it, and full of dirt too,

but if you are full of light you will be full of grace, peace, clarity and healing. God is the only One who is able to help you here, no doctors or physicians can help, even though they may sometimes offer a temporary cure when our faith is weak.

They can become an idol before God because we will tend to trust medicine more than the Creator, this becomes an idol.[:@][sm=fireanger.gif]

If I was to break it down into practical application once born again, I would say you need to surround yourself in an atmosphere of faith. Singing is very good medicine for the soul, even if your voice is not the best in the world.[sm=icon_smile_sing.gif]

Dancing is also good for the soul and the bible says the tabernacle of David will be rebuilt, he danced and sang(in the nude even[:D])[sm=dance.gif][sm=note.gif][sm=angelic.gif]as well as prayer!

And to be around men and women of faith helps to activate yours. We are exhorted in the bible to not forsake the gathering of the saints.

Secondly there are many foods without toxins in them, it is helpful to seek these and keep what you put into your body as pure as possible,

it is also good to keep your heart active as this stimulates your endorphins and these are the ones that keep you happy, these are also the ones that keep you calm, free from anxiety.

Another "problem" I had (so i was told) was delusions of gradeur. Now i know these are impressions by God because He wants me to be great, they are the dreams i have which drive me towards exellence, if i didn't posess these i would settle for mediocrity.[:'(]

In conclusion the primary and major cause for all mental illness is the state of the soul, then, of course there is maintenance.

One must take into account the measure by which mental health is determined these days, that is another story I will perhaps go into another time.



Giulia -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (3/7/2006 4:21:15 AM)

A good balance of ego,(lion), vision(eagle), work and activity(bull), and emotion(man) is where I believe the perfect balance intended by God for man is.

To have vision without balance in the ego(by ego i mean the soul which has been born into Christ and has established its roots therein) would produce sickness, likewise to be overemotional without direction(given by the ego) will cause sickness and overwork without direction from the ego . The ego without the new birth doesn't know which way to go and if it relies on outer stimulation rather than stimulation through God it can turn into pride.

Just working this fascinating theory out, through the help of God and it is a pleasure for me to share it with you.



Invisible_Woman -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (3/7/2006 1:43:01 PM)

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stateofgrace -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (3/7/2006 1:54:39 PM)

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Should I pass pass the popcorn, latic dear?



Invisible_Woman -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (3/7/2006 2:10:49 PM)

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Should I pass pass the popcorn, latic dear?


latic puts arm around stateofgrace and eats popcorn together



manda59 -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (3/7/2006 2:25:52 PM)

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A good balance of ego,(lion), vision(eagle), work and activity(bull), and emotion(man) is where I believe the perfect balance intended by God for man is.




I'm sorry, but what *are* you talking about?



womaninchrist -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (3/7/2006 2:37:02 PM)

For reasons only known to God Himself, my bipolar persists what's now almost 14 years since being "born again". I eat right, I exercise, I read my Bible, I pray, I've been subjected to enough "deliverance services" that I've lost count (and no one's ever found a demon to cast out - or off - or a sin that I need to repent) - yet I still bounce between periods where I don't sleep for days or where I try to sleep for days (classic bipolar problems). It's not that I don't want to be freed or healed of it - I'd love to be. It's just that God so far hasn't taken away my illness. So if what you've posted is blanketly true, where have I failed? Because it has to be me that failed...

And can I get some of that popcorn? I could use some with this tack to the thread.



blueapples333 -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (3/7/2006 2:46:12 PM)

I think that the way we think creates the way we feel. If we're constantly focusing on everything that's wrong instead of what's right and the things we have to be grateful for then we are not truly worshipping Him. And like someone else in this thread pointed out, negative thinking causes our brains to become hardwired for chemical imbalances.

I recently came through an unbelievable ordeal. I've been depressed my whole life and recently attempted suicide. Yes, I know that is wrong, but I did ask for forgiveness. I have Bipolar and Borderline. Last tuesday I couldn't take it anymore. I had been hospitalized for the overdose on the 10th of Feb. Then my 9 month old daughter was hospitalized for a staph infection and then I came down with an awful flu on top of hurting my back really bad and the pain meds didn't work at all. I finally just said I NEED HELP! So I admitted myself to a psych hosp. for three days. I did nothing but pray and read. I came out with a faith in Christ stronger than ever. He revealed to me that I don't always need to be right and I can't control everyone. I need to stop being angry when people don't give me the response I want and when things don't go my way. I don't attach myself to outcomes any longer. It's hard, but I'm doing pretty good.

Last night I called my 11 year old son who lives with his grandparents and he won't speak to me anymore because I've had another child and he feels like I abandoned him. I was very upset but then I realized that getting angry and depressed would not solve the problem. There is a spiritual solution and when we are discouraged we must turn to Jesus for help. He will guide us.

don't get me wrong, i'm still on my meds, but I do believe He will heal me over time so that I'm not on them anymore.



Invisible_Woman -> RE: Mental Health Issues - One Stop Thread (3/7/2006 2:49:37 PM)

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And can I get some of that popcorn? I could use some with this tack to the thread.


latic puts other arm around womaninchrist and passes popcorn



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