RE: Does listening to an audibook count as reading the book?
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Does listening to an audibook count as reading the book?
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RE: Does listening to an audibook count as reading the ... - 11/4/2009 10:01:37 AM
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garsyt
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But if anyone is too lazy or busy to read a book, listening to an audiobook doesn't count.
Whoa there!!!
I'm taking a 15 hour car drive to Minnesota from Indiana. I can't read in a car because it makes me seriously ill and my husband has trouble driving with lights on in the van anyway. The kids can manage to read in the car - save the youngest who we've learned is just like her mother when it comes to words on a page while in a moving vehicle. So I stock up on audio books. Stuff for her as well as the rest of us. Sometimes it's stuff we've already read, or it could be something new. And we enjoy our trip! I don't see that as lazy or to busy - I see that as saving my sanity by not having to pull over as often so someone can throw up. I see that as using our time in a productive way! We "read" The Book Thief" on our last trip. Now this is a huge book. My avid reading 12 year old can't make it through this one and she read the last installment of Harry Potter in 3 days!
I guess I don't see it as lazy or to busy - I see it as using ones time while doing mindless tasks (like mowing the lawn - something that has to be done on occasion) or when little else can be done to do something productive.
Mind you we STILL pick up books and read them - that's why my library fines funded the new library carpeting and the cashiers at B&N don't even bother asking if we've got a membership card anymore. My husband lives by the motto: "If I have a bit of extra money I buy books. If there's anything leftover food and clothing."
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According to a teacher friend of mine, listening comprehension is one of the last skills we develop. She said a study she read shows that middle-schoolers score lower on listening comprehension than they do on reading comprehension. That my explain why your 12 year thinks that way about audio books.
It could also just be the way she learns. She has ALWAYS been a reader. ALWAYS. She read her first book at 3 years old and even before that would carry around books and look at them all the time. She read the first 4 books in a James Patterson series for kids in 2 days. And she comprehends everything she reads. Her comprehension scores on tests are usually the highest possible. She is very much so a visual learner. But my youngest dd is different. She is very much so an auditory person. She hears it she knows it. Setting things to music works for this kid! She can read and reads well, but if she HEARS it she remembers and understands. You can have her read a passage about something in her science book and answer some verbal comprehension questions and she'll bomb. She won't remember much at all. But you read it out loud to her and then ask the same questions and she'll have all the info you've asked for on the tip of her tongue.
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RE: Does listening to an audibook count as reading the ... - 11/4/2009 10:25:00 AM
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Audiobooks are great. They often get people to read those thick, long books. I know my husband never would have read one of his favorite books, The Brothers K, without hearing the audio book first.
Audiobooks are a performance medium, and by their very nature they trigger different parts of the brain then reading. It is a different ballgame.
But that's no reason to look down on people that prefer the audio medium to the visual medium. Its all about the story. Some stories were made to be read aloud. Some weren't. You get different things from each medium.
Seeing a play by Shakespeare and reading a play by Shakespeare are very different things, but that does not mean that one is better then the other. You simply notice different things with each one.
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RE: Does listening to an audibook count as reading the ... - 11/4/2009 10:37:59 AM
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The Bible was "listened to" for most of its existence.
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RE: Does listening to an audibook count as reading the ... - 11/4/2009 11:30:33 AM
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OK, let's not go overboard in defending audiobooks or lack of laziness. 
The points are that there is a place for listening to books.
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Many people think to sit and read a book is a waste of time.
I know I have a self-imposed rule that I don't read during daytime hours except for God's word and study materials. Of course, I have to occasionally make an exception. But the reason for my 'rule' is to prevent myself from reading to the exclusion of other needful tasks. . . like housework, laundry, food prep, etc. . .
I certainly do not see reading as a waste of time. I grew up in a home where my father read voraciously. Sports on television were NOT the priority, reading was.
Reading is a wonderful way of knowing others and expanding myself. I can learn so much from what I read.
And perhaps that's why reading a book (rather than listening) is so important to me. I give my undivided attention to it just as I do (or desire to do) when I am with another person and listening to them speak. There is nothing worse than talking to someone and they are looking around, attending to every little thing other than what you are saying. That's been my experience when I've listened to audiobooks. I'm distracted, doing other things and the author does not have my full, undivided attention.
Now listening while taking a trip in a car is a totally different thing as well. Your distractions are minimized by the setting.
There is a wonderful place for both exercises, reading a book and listening to a book.
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RE: Does listening to an audibook count as reading the ... - 11/4/2009 11:57:24 AM
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There isn't anything wrong with listening to an audiobook but I don't consider it having read the book. A person knows the storyline etc. but they haven't read it, they listened to it. When I read to my children when they were younger I wouldn't have said they read the book, they listened while I read. I can be in a different room and listen to a program on television but that doesn't mean I watched it. That is how I feel about reading vs listening to a book.
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RE: Does listening to an audibook count as reading the ... - 11/4/2009 1:16:44 PM
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There isn't anything wrong with listening to an audiobook but I don't consider it having read the book. A person knows the storyline etc. but they haven't read it, they listened to it. When I read to my children when they were younger I wouldn't have said they read the book, they listened while I read. I can be in a different room and listen to a program on television but that doesn't mean I watched it. That is how I feel about reading vs listening to a book.
I agree with this exactly. There's nothing wrong with listening to audio books, but it's not the same as reading. There was no reading involved.
"Did you hear the new Casting Crowns?"
"No, but I read the lyrics."
"Did you see the new Harry Potter?"
"No, but I read the book."
All different stuff.
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RE: Does listening to an audibook count as reading the ... - 11/4/2009 3:48:43 PM
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Auben
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"Did you hear the new Casting Crowns?"
"No, but I read the lyrics."
That's leaving out part of work as a whole, while reading aloud is not.
"Did you see the new Harry Potter?"
"No, but I read the book."
Movies and books don't contain the same content. They are different manifestations even if they are the same work, so again this is different.
So is listening to a television program from another room. You're not getting the entire thing while you can technically get every word from listening to an audiobook/someone reading aloud.
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RE: Does listening to an audibook count as reading the ... - 11/4/2009 4:40:50 PM
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War mongering? Please. It's just different. It's not a big deal, but if you don't read something you didn't read it. If my husband reads me the paper, I didn't read it, he did. Same information, different delivery, but I still didn't read it. The English language has different words for different actions. Crazy, that.
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RE: Does listening to an audibook count as reading the ... - 11/4/2009 6:37:48 PM
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While listening, you are already associating a voice with the text that wouldn't be there if you were reading.
I disagree. When I literally read a book, as opposed to listening to it, I still hear the voice of the characters in my mind, especially the narrator. I know what the person looks and sounds like in my head. So, even when reading I associate a voice with the text.
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RE: Does listening to an audibook count as reading the ... - 11/4/2009 6:40:38 PM
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Audiobooks are great. They often get people to read those thick, long books. I know my husband never would have read one of his favorite books, The Brothers K, without hearing the audio book first.
In my case, it's not so much length as type of book. I enjoy financial histories, but they are hard to get though on paper. Listening to them makes it much easier for more to absorb the story, and I find I pay more attention when listening too.
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RE: Does listening to an audibook count as reading the ... - 11/4/2009 6:45:05 PM
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War mongering? Please. It's just different. It's not a big deal, but if you don't read something you didn't read it. If my husband reads me the paper, I didn't read it, he did. Same information, different delivery, but I still didn't read it. The English language has different words for different actions. Crazy, that.
I started the poll, and even I am surprised at the diversity of opinions on the topic. I fully expected 90+% to say it was exactly the same thing. That said, I agree, I don't see war-mongering, just a very interesting discussion.
Of course, if I saw you at work and asked if you read that article in the paper that morning and you said "No, my husband read it to me" I would think that was a distinction without a difference. Unless he read you the abridged version! 
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RE: Does listening to an audibook count as reading the ... - 11/4/2009 9:25:24 PM
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Many people think to sit and read a book is a waste of time.
I don't think that anybody said that. I'm curious, do any of the audio book users think that? I certainly don't.
Also, I'm curious if there are any people here who only listen to audio books, and do not read print books?
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RE: Does listening to an audibook count as reading the ... - 11/4/2009 9:30:12 PM
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War mongering? Please. It's just different. It's not a big deal, but if you don't read something you didn't read it. If my husband reads me the paper, I didn't read it, he did. Same information, different delivery, but I still didn't read it. The English language has different words for different actions. Crazy, that.
Yes, okay, the verbs are different. I think what people are reacting to is the "doesn't count" part. Like you aren't allowed to "claim" that book if you listened instead of read--if you know what I mean.
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RE: Does listening to an audibook count as reading the ... - 11/4/2009 9:51:51 PM
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Also, I'm curious if there are any people here who only listen to audio books, and do not read print books?
I've cut back a lot on my reading print books, simply because I'm spending so much of my time reading (and recording) text for LibriVox (and proof-listening others' work, and listening to finished works just for enjoyment). Lately, if it isn't public domain, I don't have time for it, LOL! So I do still do visual reading, but not much in the way of paper books.
But I'm a little... skewed, I guess you could say. Consider me a slightly biased source. 
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RE: Does listening to an audibook count as reading the ... - 11/5/2009 1:20:15 AM
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Quote {When I literally read a book, as opposed to listening to it, I still hear the voice of the characters in my mind, especially the narrator. I know what the person looks and sounds like in my head. So, even when reading I associate a voice with the text.} Quote
Yes that is it! I agree, and my imagination of the inflection and such is so much better than someone else's voice!
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RE: Does listening to an audibook count as reading the ... - 11/5/2009 1:23:09 AM
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I haven't tried anything audio yet, but thanks to this thread I'm very interested....
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RE: Does listening to an audibook count as reading the ... - 11/5/2009 6:21:22 AM
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Also, I'm curious if there are any people here who only listen to audio books, and do not read print books?
I'm sure there are some, but on average I would guess audiobook listeners ALSO physically read a lot of books. In my case I would guess fewer than 10% of the books I read are audiobooks, so they are a supplement, not a replacement.
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RE: Does listening to an audibook count as reading the ... - 11/5/2009 8:37:03 AM
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Also, I'm curious if there are any people here who only listen to audio books, and do not read print books?
I'm sure there are some, but on average I would guess audiobook listeners ALSO physically read a lot of books. In my case I would guess fewer than 10% of the books I read are audiobooks, so they are a supplement, not a replacement.
The number of audio books I listen to is an EXTREMELY small percentage of the whole of the number of books that I read. They are most definitely just a supplement. A lot of what I read wouldn't be available to me in audio form anyway.
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