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RE: Why do some preachers scream, yell, holler in their... - 10/30/2009 12:13:12 PM
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DaveW
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Really, I have sat(stood, shouted, raised my hands in approval) listening to an "anointed" minister with an excellent message for an hour and a half to 2 hours. Usually, I can't sit for 20, let alone 30 minutes. When it's good, its good. There are some speakers out there that are a sure cure for sleeplessness. They may have a good message, but the presentation is a killer. And their [those "some speakers"] message may be MORE annointed than the one shouting his.
Have you ever recognized the annointing on a person who is teaching intense biblical principles and truths but has a monotone droll voice? Perhaps they even prophesy in that same tone?
If not, you are mistaking the emotion behind the screaming and intensity for the annointing.
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Why do some preachers scream, yell, holler in their ser... - 10/30/2009 12:18:21 PM
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I don't care for overly-theatrical, screaming preachers.
I hear ya!
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RE: Why do some preachers scream, yell, holler in their... - 10/30/2009 12:18:52 PM
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Eutychus
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If not, you are mistaking the emotion behind the screaming and intensity for the annointing.
Quite often the sermons I've heard praised by members as "annointed" were aimed at "them," that is, the lost, the world, and/or certain other denominations - all outsiders to our group.
IOW, not a single point was made that any person in the congregation was guilty of doing. We left unchanged but feeling very righteous about ourselves and looking down our noses at "them".
Very popular, those type sermons.
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RE: Why do some preachers scream, yell, holler in their... - 10/30/2009 12:48:33 PM
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And their [those "some speakers"] message may be MORE annointed than the one shouting his.
Have you ever recognized the annointing on a person who is teaching intense biblical principles and truths but has a monotone droll voice? Perhaps they even prophesy in that same tone?
If not, you are mistaking the emotion behind the screaming and intensity for the annointing.
Imagine:
It's a park. People are picnicking, playing, chatting, laughing, walking. The preacher chooses a set of papers, covers his face with them in order to see, because his sight is so bad. He begins to read in what many call a monotone. As he drones on, a crowd gathers.
Point by numerated point, he makes his speech: "2. 2.They deserve to be cast into hell; so that divine justice never stands in the way, it makes no objection against God's using his power at any moment to destroy them. Yea, on the contrary, justice calls aloud for an infinite punishment of their sins. Divine justice says of the tree that brings forth such grapes of Sodom, "Cut it down, why cumbereth it the ground?" Luke 13:7. The sword of divine justice is every moment brandished over their heads . . . ."
And this is #2 of several sets of numerated points that precede this one and some that follow!
Close to the end, he reads, ". . . Therefore, let every one that is out of Christ, now awake and fly from the wrath to come. The wrath of Almighty God is now undoubtedly hanging over a great part of this congregation. . . ."
It was not the first time he had read this sermon with that same "droning" voice. And on those occasions, people fell on their knees in repentance.
"Sinners in the Hands of an Angry G-d," Jonathan Edwards.
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RE: Why do some preachers scream, yell, holler in their... - 10/30/2009 7:46:22 PM
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Covaan_Meshuga
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Know what's scary? It wasn't even funny to me. Why? Because I knew people like that, who used to pray like that!
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While in prayer or praise, I am only as devoted to G-d as I am in my most private moments.
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RE: Why do some preachers scream, yell, holler in their... - 10/31/2009 2:45:46 AM
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this reminds me of a time...not long after I accepted Christ....around 1993 or so...i rode with a friend to her hometown for the weekend (just so she wouldn't have to make the drive alone), and we went to church on Sunday. That preacher screamed...screamed so loud you could hardly understand what he was saying.
My take on it? Not only was it a big "turnoff", but, to me, screaming is something one would do if they ain't got nothing else. and, they need that (not articulate, "God-given" words) to get ones attention....
My current pastor uses a VERY "conversational" tone when "preaching". And, yet, he uses the WORDS he says "do the talking"...and not the volume of his voice....and, yet I hang onto every word, along with the millions who see him on TV and radio around the world.
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RE: Why do some preachers scream, yell, holler in their... - 10/31/2009 7:48:41 AM
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If someone were to ask me when was the time I'd heard the most profound speaker I'd heard in my entire life -- the speaker whose words melted my very soul -- my answer would be even still surprising to me.
The first preacher I remember in my life was the one who screamed in what looked like rage until I thought his veins would burst. Since him, I have heard all kinds from gentle and quiet to loud and overly animated, running the aisles and hopping over altars.
But the most moving speaker for me was in a classroom setting last October, and he was the lecturer. He was not preaching; he was merely instructing the class regarding salvation in a 14-week (if I remember right) course. But that night, what he was saying, through the H Spirit, gripped my very soul, and I began to understand, more than I ever had in my whole life, the profound, incredible, choosing of our sovereign G-d and the wonder that He had bothered with me! I began to understand that I had nothing to entice Him, nothing to turn His thoughts toward me, yet He had pursued me until I was found.
(Now, this was a classroom setting. My husband and I were both taking the class. There we all sat around a huge table, texts, note-paper, and pens in front of us, listening to our teacher. Having ADD, I always sit close to the teacher, in order to cut down on distraction, but toward the end of the session, I had, without thinking, turned my chair so that my husband was behind me and I was completely facing the instructor.)
I tried to control myself, but the profound understanding of what G-d had done for me gripped my very soul. My face screwed up in the contortion of weeping while I was trying to control myself in order to not fall apart, crying out, in the classroom. Tears streamed down my face, dripping on my blouse. I wanted no one to know what was happening, but the teacher knew -- I was in front. There was no hiding it from him.
Was anyone else so effected? I have no idea. I was talking to G-d silently, my whole body stiff in my effort to keep this my secret, by then not hearing the rest of the lecture. I let the tears stream in order to not wipe my face and thus let anyone other that the teacher know. This was private to me, and I didn't want to disrupt the lecture: it was between G-d and me -- us two and no one else. But I noticed the teacher pause and look at me. He knew. How could he not. But he quickly regathered his thoughts and went on teaching, for which I was thankful.
I understand that some people enjoy rambunctious speakers who are animated, who pace or dance, who yell or rage, but this kind of animation is not always an indication that they are speaking what G-d wants us to hear. Some are turned off by those who are quiet, who merely speak in a normal tone, without flowery words. But as I wrote, even I remain surprised that i was most profoundly touched by the H Spirit during a lecture.
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RE: Why do some preachers scream, yell, holler in their... - 11/2/2009 9:51:23 AM
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Eutychus
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....Close to the end, he reads, ". . . Therefore, let every one that is out of Christ, now awake and fly from the wrath to come. The wrath of Almighty God is now undoubtedly hanging over a great part of this congregation. . . ."
It was not the first time he had read this sermon with that same "droning" voice. And on those occasions, people fell on their knees in repentance.
"Sinners in the Hands of an Angry G-d," Jonathan Edwards.
That is an excellent example of the message of God used by the Holy Spirit to affect the hearts of men & women.
There are some preachers who don't seem to trust the Holy Spirit to produce results, so they resort to theatrics and emotional manipulation.
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RE: Why do some preachers scream, yell, holler in their... - 11/2/2009 11:45:44 AM
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. . . and even, sometimes, when they are trying to convince people of their point in private conversations? (I was wondering this yesterday, when my boss, a non-screaming pastor, was talking to me. He probably knows why they do this, but he didn't mention the reason for it to me.) My first pastor was a Hitleresque screamer who scared me to death, and I had some pastors after him, through my years in the church, who were screamers. Thank G-d, none of the leaders where I go now do that.
But just wondering why . . . .
In my opinion most the time it is just for show.
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RE: Why do some preachers scream, yell, holler in their... - 11/3/2009 2:06:20 AM
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cwb
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Probably best to ask THEM why they speak with emphasis...
The Holy Spirit DOES have lots of power!!!
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RE: Why do some preachers scream, yell, holler in their... - 11/3/2009 10:40:00 AM
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I find it interesting that God spoke to Elijah, not with great demonstration of His mighty and awesome power, but in a still, small voice. Even the psalmist didn't write make loud exclamations but to "be still and know that I am God."
IMO, the Holy Spirit, just like Satan, gets blamed for a lot of things that He's not involved with, when it's just the flesh and pride on fallen man.
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RE: Why do some preachers scream, yell, holler in their... - 11/3/2009 1:10:38 PM
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When a Pastor is doing his Serman he is engulfed with the Holly Spirit and is only abiding in Him(The Holly Spirit).
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RE: Why do some preachers scream, yell, holler in their... - 11/4/2009 9:15:46 AM
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Eutychus
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When a Pastor is doing his Serman he is engulfed with the Holly Spirit and is only abiding in Him(The Holly Spirit).
That is the way it should be. Howsumever, there are plenty of false teachers/preachers whose sermons mock the Lord and real Christianity and, thus, prove, that is not always the case. Tune in to TBN for many examples. The NT contains many, many warnings to be wary and to weigh what teachers/preachers say. Look up the Bereans, they didn't even take the apostle Paul's teachings without studying and comparing them to scripture. We should do no less.
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RE: Why do some preachers scream, yell, holler in their... - 11/4/2009 11:52:34 AM
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I didn't read all the replies, someone may have arleady said this. I believe it is the way they were trained/schooled. Also, demonination plays a roll. A preacher can be on TV with the sound turned down, and I can just about tell you what demoniation he/she comes from. Body language says a lot.
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RE: Why do some preachers scream, yell, holler in their... - 11/5/2009 2:31:05 PM
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It means they're more spiritual.
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RE: Why do some preachers scream, yell, holler in their... - 11/12/2009 2:50:01 PM
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Now this guy surely has "the anointing"
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RE: Why do some preachers scream, yell, holler in their... - 11/12/2009 2:55:24 PM
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A preacher can be on TV with the sound turned down, and I can just about tell you what demoniation he/she comes from. Body language says a lot.
A very interesting experiment: Watch some of these excitable television preachers with the sound turned off-notice the twisted angry facial expressions on some of them....and then tell me that is inspired by a "Holy" spirit.
(No really-try it....you'll be shocked)
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RE: Why do some preachers scream, yell, holler in their... - 11/12/2009 2:59:04 PM
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Eutychus
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A preacher can be on TV with the sound turned down, and I can just about tell you what demoniation he/she comes from. Body language says a lot.
A very interesting experiment: Watch some of these excitable television preachers with the sound turned off-notice the twisted angry facial expressions on some of them....and then tell me that is inspired by a "Holy" spirit.
(No really-try it....you'll be shocked)
On the other extreme, watch Joel Osteen with the sound off. Honestly, if I didn't know he was married I'd wonder about his... orientation.
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RE: Why do some preachers scream, yell, holler in their... - 11/12/2009 7:09:31 PM
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People tend to gravitate to a style of preaching they can relate to. That is not a good or bad thing, it is just the way it is in a free society where people have a multitude of church choices. We are taught, however, to be discerning disciples who examine the fruits of those who claim to preach in the name of Jesus. A preacher who appeals to your sense of what is proper in a preaching style, yet who is not feeding you the pure Word of God, is a danger whether he shouts and yells or presents a calm and seemingly reasoned argument.
In real estate it is "location, location, location." In preaching it is content, content, content. A captivating presentation helps, but can easily disguise a poisonous message.
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RE: Why do some preachers scream, yell, holler in their... - 11/12/2009 7:35:20 PM
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Ironically, we are more easily led astray by confused or deceptive preachers whose style of delivery matches our expectations of how a preacher ought to sound. We should be more alert for out-of-bounds messages from preachers who sound the way we think they should. A redeemed individuals who have been given the mind of Christ, we are responsible before God to compare the messages we are given to the revealed Word. Jesus Christ has given us His Holy Spirit to guide us into truth. We must follow Him.
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RE: Why do some preachers scream, yell, holler in their... - 11/12/2009 7:40:30 PM
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As for Joel Osteen, you could fit his theology in a thimble with room left over for Kirstie Alley's thumb.
The only way to watch him is with the sound off.
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RE: Why do some preachers scream, yell, holler in their... - 11/13/2009 8:31:28 PM
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Well I am one of those preachers who gets a bit loud and animated. I've been preaching for 14 years and I know that some cannot deal with that. However I know more who cannot accept the sleepy preacher either.
There arent very many preachers whose style appeals to everyone, that's ok. certain sheep hear certain voices. Prayerfully they are all speaking the same thing.
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RE: Why do some preachers scream, yell, holler in their... - 11/13/2009 8:44:56 PM
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I agree, DaveW. A lot of it is cultural. For example, in the Calvary Chapel churches, many of the pastors preach in an easygoing, conversational style--a reflection of the Southern California beach culture where Calvary Chapel was born. I've heard Pentecostal Christians complain CC isn't churchy or Spirit-filled enough because it seems dull and boring compared to the churches they're used to.
But what I don't understand is how and why some charismatic and Pentecostal pastors not only preach loud, but do so in a deep Southern drawl (i.e. "Tuh-deyuh" instead of today or "Hoahlyghost" instead of Holy Ghost) when they are former bikers or gang members, non-White, and lived their entire life here on the streets of Los Angeles? Are they simply copycatting the preachers they see on TBN? I almost want to laugh when I hear them speak, but keep my mouth shut lest a brother rightfully giveth me a Holy Ghost punch in the nose for correction. 
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