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RE: Obama Team Continues Effort to Isolate Fox News - 10/27/2009 2:21:12 PM
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huangshan
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It's no coincidence that Fox News crushes the lefty lapdog news networks. Conservatives think for themselves, and Liberals think whatever Katie, Dan, Barack, Nancy, and James Carville tell them to believe.
This makes no sense. More people watch the Fox talking heads... so conservatives are more independent... because fewer liberals watch liberal talking heads?
Is it opposite day?
No.
It's just that Conservatism involves THINKING, and Liberalism involves FEELING
Given that the thread's been closed, cleaned up, and reopened, I feel bad about pursuing such a tangential topic, but no, definitely not. Liberalism is based on empiricism, conservatism is based on a sort of moralistic code.
Your comment still doesn't make sense in any case. More people watch the Fox talking heads... so conservatives are more independent... because fewer liberals watch liberal talking heads?
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RE: Obama Team Continues Effort to Isolate Fox News - 10/27/2009 8:19:02 PM
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huangshan
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This is a perfect distillation of my views.
I think some people are under the impression that the White House wants Fox News to disappear. Nothing, I suspect, could be further from the truth. The White House is in fact delighted that Fox News and its merry cast of commentators exists. Nor is the White House vexed that its every pronouncement concerning Fox News solidifies Fox’s core audience; that’s actually the plan. The point is not to moderate Fox News by accusing it of being biased/not a real news organization/running or being the propoganda arm of the GOP; if anything, the point is to make it more extreme in the views it airs.
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RE: Obama Team Continues Effort to Isolate Fox News - 10/27/2009 8:36:12 PM
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All I want to know is why The same folks claiming Fox is not a news outlet aren't crying foul when the other media outlets play Obama fan club.
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RE: Obama Team Continues Effort to Isolate Fox News - 10/27/2009 11:24:29 PM
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Let's see, Fox Broke the story of W.'s DUI arrest only a few months before the 2000 election....they ran stories and polls that seemed to indicate that John Kerry was destined to win in 2004, and they routinely ran polls showing McCain trailing Barack Obama in the race leading up to the most recent election.
On virtually every issue discussed, folks from both sides of the issue are interviewed (try finding that approach on Olbermann or Maddow).
Bill O'Reilly has been critical of both parties, frequently.
Hillary Clinton said she was treated most fairly by Fox News during her Presidential bid.
Barack Obama sat down for an interview with Bill O'Reilly, an interview which nobody would call particularly tough or ill mannered.
Yeah, Fox is really a right wing mouthpiece.... 
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RE: Obama Team Continues Effort to Isolate Fox News - 10/27/2009 11:53:33 PM
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Hillary Clinton said she was treated most fairly by Fox News during her Presidential bid.
That had a name didn't it? Oh yeah, "Operation Chaos"
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RE: Obama Team Continues Effort to Isolate Fox News - 10/28/2009 3:56:29 AM
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huangshan
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All I want to know is why The same folks claiming Fox is not a news outlet aren't crying foul when the other media outlets play Obama fan club.
Other networks have not promoted and organized protests against the government.
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RE: Obama Team Continues Effort to Isolate Fox News - 10/28/2009 4:06:34 AM
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Trying to silence the other is when one has gone over the line.
That is not happening.
Yes, it is happening.
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RE: Obama Team Continues Effort to Isolate Fox News - 10/28/2009 4:21:23 AM
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I've looked it over a few times, and I still have no idea what you're talking about in post #135.
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RE: Obama Team Continues Effort to Isolate Fox News - 10/28/2009 4:52:57 AM
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All I want to know is why The same folks claiming Fox is not a news outlet aren't crying foul when the other media outlets play Obama fan club.
Other networks have not promoted and organized protests against the government.
Please show me where Fox ORGANIZED anything.
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RE: Obama Team Continues Effort to Isolate Fox News - 10/28/2009 5:11:49 AM
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All I want to know is why The same folks claiming Fox is not a news outlet aren't crying foul when the other media outlets play Obama fan club.
Other networks have not promoted and organized protests against the government.
How about the way let's say Charlie Gibson thanked Cindi Sheehan in one of many favorable interviews with her during her protest at Bush's ranch? How about the coverage of that by many media outlets? Or is it alright for them to cover a protest against the Bush administration but not one against Obama's? The reason you claim that Fox promoted the protest in Washington, a very large protest by the way, is because they actually covered it while the rest of the networks essentially ignored it or gave it passing mention. Interestingly enough they fawned over the couple dozen folks who sat outside Bush's ranch with Sheehan but a protest as large as this they simply didn't feel necessary to report on more than in passing.
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RE: Obama Team Continues Effort to Isolate Fox News - 10/28/2009 9:09:05 AM
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How about the bias in calling the Tea Party attendees tea baggers? I mean, it's only a gay sex act that the networks used to describe the movement.
Didn't you know that it is OK to be anti-anything right leaning and not be called biased or unnewlike but to be pro-anything right leaning or anti-left leaning is a smudge on ones credibility.
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RE: Obama Team Continues Effort to Isolate Fox News - 10/28/2009 10:07:21 AM
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This is SO rich........................ROFL
Everytime I see the FOX bashing I have to go see what's
on FOX.com........................seeya later............LOL
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RE: Obama Team Continues Effort to Isolate Fox News - 10/28/2009 10:12:40 AM
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WASHINGTON -- Democrats are still struggling to find a strategy that will let them push a health care overhaul through the Senate and fulfill President Obama's goal of signing a bill this year.
A day after Majority Leader Harry Reid announced that the Democratic bill would include the option of a government-run insurance plan, moderates in his own party lost no time Tuesday in voicing their displeasure. Reid, D-Nev., needs every Democrat to break the filibusters Republicans are vowing to mount. But some of the moderates refuse to say whether they'll stick with their leader on procedural votes, let alone those on the merits of the bill.
"We are a long way from reaching conclusion," said Budget Committee Chairman Kent Conrad, D-N.D.
Speaker Nancy Pelosi is in a similar position in the House. Efforts to draft a consensus health care bill for a vote have been stalled for more than two weeks because of disagreements among Democrats.
There are nine weeks left in the year to deliver a bill to Obama's desk.
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Well, good news..............
I guess the admin does not want too much HOPE to be broadcast.
And we thought we would get change? But, it's business as usual for the dems.
Ignore the populace and full speed ahead with an agenda that the majority of
Americans want nothing to do with.
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RE: Obama Team Continues Effort to Isolate Fox News - 10/28/2009 10:40:53 AM
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I'll second the motion...where did Fox News organize ANY sort of event?
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RE: Obama Team Continues Effort to Isolate Fox News - 10/28/2009 10:43:53 AM
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Lapidoth
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The "we the people" organized and participated in
those events. FOX recognized the news worthiness
and reported as any NEWS ORGANIZATION would do.
The left media ignored and made fun of the voice of the people.
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RE: Obama Team Continues Effort to Isolate Fox News - 10/28/2009 11:11:29 AM
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huangshan
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All I want to know is why The same folks claiming Fox is not a news outlet aren't crying foul when the other media outlets play Obama fan club.
Other networks have not promoted and organized protests against the government.
Please show me where Fox ORGANIZED anything.
Fox promoted the protests via non-paid shout-outs and advertisements on the network, and the "9/12 Project" is something that Beck himself organized. You can see on the 9/12 website where at the top it has a "get involved" tab to help people find events near them and contact senators and representatives, and at the bottom of the main page it says, "Brought to you by FOXNews.com".
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RE: Obama Team Continues Effort to Isolate Fox News - 10/28/2009 12:18:10 PM
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Fox promoted the protests via non-paid shout-outs and advertisements on the network,
Do you have evidence of "shout-outs". The only advertisement i remember is fox advertising that they would be covering the event, meaning reporting on an event that is happening. I could be completely wrong but I know that i didn't see any promotion of the event, only promotion of the fact that they would be coverning it.
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RE: Obama Team Continues Effort to Isolate Fox News - 10/28/2009 12:20:54 PM
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The "we the people" organized and participated in
those events. FOX recognized the news worthiness
and reported as any NEWS ORGANIZATION would do.
The left media ignored and made fun of the voice of the people.
EXACTLY. Millions of fed up Americans exercise their right to peaceful dissent and the left wing lapdogs at CNN (last place now!), MSNBC, ABC, CBS, NBC, etc ignored it, save for a few rude commentaries.
But have 10-12 anti-war nuts show up somewhere and their trucks are a-rollin!
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RE: Obama Team Continues Effort to Isolate Fox News - 10/28/2009 12:26:34 PM
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huangshan
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Fox promoted the protests via non-paid shout-outs and advertisements on the network,
Do you have evidence of "shout-outs". The only advertisement i remember is fox advertising that they would be covering the event, meaning reporting on an event that is happening. I could be completely wrong but I know that i didn't see any promotion of the event, only promotion of the fact that they would be coverning it.
I thought you people actually watched this stuff.
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RE: Obama Team Continues Effort to Isolate Fox News - 10/28/2009 12:32:27 PM
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Fox promoted the protests via non-paid shout-outs and advertisements on the network,
Do you have evidence of "shout-outs". The only advertisement i remember is fox advertising that they would be covering the event, meaning reporting on an event that is happening. I could be completely wrong but I know that i didn't see any promotion of the event, only promotion of the fact that they would be coverning it.
I thought you people actually watched this stuff.
First of all i am not "you people" so you can save your insults. Secondly, you made a claim, back it up.
I hardly ever watch any national news outlets but before the protests i was watching as I work with quite a few people who were attending. What i noticed was a serious lack of reporting on the part of all but Fox so i watched fox predominately to see what was happening. In the time i watched I saw ads for Fox's upcoming/ongoing coverage of the protests but I can't recollect any promotions of the event itself. Yes the reporting had a decidedly right leaning slant to it but not any more right leaning than the amount of left leaning reporting on the other networks, which is why I don't watch MSNBC, CNN, FOX or any of the other cable news networks.
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RE: Obama Team Continues Effort to Isolate Fox News - 10/28/2009 12:42:25 PM
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Fox promoted the protests via non-paid shout-outs and advertisements on the network,
Do you have evidence of "shout-outs". The only advertisement i remember is fox advertising that they would be covering the event, meaning reporting on an event that is happening. I could be completely wrong but I know that i didn't see any promotion of the event, only promotion of the fact that they would be coverning it.
I thought you people actually watched this stuff.
First of all i am not "you people" so you can save your insults. Secondly, you made a claim, back it up.
Sorry, you're right, that was impolite. Still, it seems like viewers should be able to remember this stuff. This isn't isolated, this isn't the only one. Glenn beck promoted the 9/12 things for a long time. Surely this is within the realm of things I know you know and I don't need to show it. It's there, it's pretty obvious, particularly to people who claim to watch Fox News. But okay. There you go. I'll work on not assuming people remember things.
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Yes the reporting had a decidedly right leaning slant to it but not any more right leaning than the amount of left leaning reporting on the other networks, which is why I don't watch MSNBC, CNN, FOX or any of the other cable news networks.
Again, the slant is not the issue. There's a slant everywhere. The Economist is one of my favorite magazines and its free-market slant is pretty obvious, they don't pretend they don't have it. They're still an incredible source for good journalism.
As I said, the issue, the thing that makes Fox a political organization and not a news organization is that it promotes and organizes protest movements. This is what political advocacy organizations do. Fox gives unsolicited shout outs and enthusiastic, rah-rah, "be there, stand up for your freedoms" coverage. This is, as far as I know, perfectly legal in America, but it's not the function of a news organization. It is the function of a political organization.
For all the biases of the other cable news organizations, they don't do this.
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