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RE: Truth Seekers Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/18/2009 4:08:38 PM   
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Well if Stanley Ann Durham was NOT his mother then who was/is?

First off, the gloves come off. We have always assumed that Stanley Ann was his mother. What if the reason Obama refuses to release his ‘RECORD’ that Hawaii has on files, is that it is NOT a Birth record, but an adoption record?

Imagine that Obama finds his Birth Certificate in the box as described in “Dreams of My Father” and discovers that whom he thought was his mother WASN’T. Think of the resentment, the betrayal. when he’s old enough he starts using his ‘African’ name instead of his whitey name.


This may be a conspiracy, or who knows, it might be the truth?

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/20/2009 4:46:16 PM   
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not every hospital issues those live birth papers to the parents...not every person has access to theirs. I do not have mine...my mother lost it in a move when I was a child....so if I were in his position...I could not produce it.

Again.....while this is interesting...HOW does it help us address the actual issues that are happening NOW? He is president. He has been certified as validly elected. WE cannot change that nearly 2 years into his presidency.....so why keep dragging a dead and stinking horse around when there are wild mules to catch?

First off the State can issue a signed, sealed, certified copy. I checked and in Hawaii it cost 10 dollars to get one.

The one floating around on the web is not signed, sealed, or certified; that is where the confusion comes from.

As to why the concern even after he has been sworn in as President; the truth matters to some folks.

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RE: Truth Seekers Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/21/2009 2:03:04 PM   
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Funny how a conspiracy is tossed because it's a conspiracy.............LOL


conspiracies almost never live up to the fanfare given to them, if they exist at all.

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/21/2009 2:48:46 PM   
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not every hospital issues those live birth papers to the parents...not every person has access to theirs. I do not have mine...my mother lost it in a move when I was a child....so if I were in his position...I could not produce it.

Again.....while this is interesting...HOW does it help us address the actual issues that are happening NOW? He is president. He has been certified as validly elected. WE cannot change that nearly 2 years into his presidency.....so why keep dragging a dead and stinking horse around when there are wild mules to catch?

First off the State can issue a signed, sealed, certified copy. I checked and in Hawaii it cost 10 dollars to get one.

The one floating around on the web is not signed, sealed, or certified; that is where the confusion comes from.

As to why the concern even after he has been sworn in as President; the truth matters to some folks.

Thanks
RC

He's had a passport for decades, and had to renew it several times. That requires a valid birth certificate, which has to come with official seal and all from the state of birth. That means an official document is supplied by the state of birth. How difficult is that to understand?

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/21/2009 3:00:21 PM   
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He's had a passport for decades, and had to renew it several times. That requires a valid birth certificate, which has to come with official seal and all from the state of birth. That means an official document is supplied by the state of birth. How difficult is that to understand?

apparently VERY hard....of course...YOU know that his passport is a photocopied copy of someone else's right? and that he paid 5 people off to get it, and that 3 of those people died in a mysterious fire when their investments in the same company as Hillary Clinton's started to do better than Ms. Clinton's?

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/21/2009 3:35:43 PM   
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He's had a passport for decades, and had to renew it several times. That requires a valid birth certificate, which has to come with official seal and all from the state of birth. That means an official document is supplied by the state of birth. How difficult is that to understand?

apparently VERY hard....of course...YOU know that his passport is a photocopied copy of someone else's right? and that he paid 5 people off to get it, and that 3 of those people died in a mysterious fire when their investments in the same company as Hillary Clinton's started to do better than Ms. Clinton's?

Was that before or after Paula Corbin shot Vince Foster?

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/21/2009 3:38:49 PM   
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ORIGINAL: W.O.F.

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ORIGINAL: cow451

He's had a passport for decades, and had to renew it several times. That requires a valid birth certificate, which has to come with official seal and all from the state of birth. That means an official document is supplied by the state of birth. How difficult is that to understand?

apparently VERY hard....of course...YOU know that his passport is a photocopied copy of someone else's right? and that he paid 5 people off to get it, and that 3 of those people died in a mysterious fire when their investments in the same company as Hillary Clinton's started to do better than Ms. Clinton's?

Was that before or after Paula Corbin shot Vince Foster?

simultaneously!

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/21/2009 3:50:28 PM   
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ORIGINAL: W.O.F.

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ORIGINAL: cow451

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ORIGINAL: W.O.F.

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ORIGINAL: cow451

He's had a passport for decades, and had to renew it several times. That requires a valid birth certificate, which has to come with official seal and all from the state of birth. That means an official document is supplied by the state of birth. How difficult is that to understand?

apparently VERY hard....of course...YOU know that his passport is a photocopied copy of someone else's right? and that he paid 5 people off to get it, and that 3 of those people died in a mysterious fire when their investments in the same company as Hillary Clinton's started to do better than Ms. Clinton's?

Was that before or after Paula Corbin shot Vince Foster?

simultaneously!

Just like the ending of the Godfather movie!

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/21/2009 4:02:00 PM   
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ORIGINAL: W.O.F.

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ORIGINAL: cow451

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ORIGINAL: W.O.F.

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ORIGINAL: cow451

He's had a passport for decades, and had to renew it several times. That requires a valid birth certificate, which has to come with official seal and all from the state of birth. That means an official document is supplied by the state of birth. How difficult is that to understand?

apparently VERY hard....of course...YOU know that his passport is a photocopied copy of someone else's right? and that he paid 5 people off to get it, and that 3 of those people died in a mysterious fire when their investments in the same company as Hillary Clinton's started to do better than Ms. Clinton's?

Was that before or after Paula Corbin shot Vince Foster?

simultaneously!

Just like the ending of the Godfather movie!

yeah!!! That Capote was quite a prophet wasn't he?

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RE: Truth Seekers Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/22/2009 12:56:27 AM   
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It's funny that people are actually thinking it's that EASY to become President.
Obama is so smart that he fooled everyone into thinking he's legit and became President right?

SMH.
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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/22/2009 1:00:02 AM   
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As to why the concern even after he has been sworn in as President; the truth matters to some folks.

Thanks
RC


I agree the truth should matter, but in this one it's a case of "no one likes to here the truth" ;-)
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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/23/2009 8:36:01 AM   
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First off the State can issue a signed, sealed, certified copy. I checked and in Hawaii it cost 10 dollars to get one.

The one floating around on the web is not signed, sealed, or certified; that is where the confusion comes from.


How do you figure that this birth certificate is not signed, sealed, nor certified?

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As to why the concern even after he has been sworn in as President; the truth matters to some folks.


You're right, it does matter to some folks. Come join us.

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/23/2009 1:24:36 PM   
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First off the State can issue a signed, sealed, certified copy. I checked and in Hawaii it cost 10 dollars to get one.

The one floating around on the web is not signed, sealed, or certified; that is where the confusion comes from.


How do you figure that this birth certificate is not signed, sealed, nor certified?

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As to why the concern even after he has been sworn in as President; the truth matters to some folks.


You're right, it does matter to some folks. Come join us.

-Dan.

AWWW Dan...thanks! The problem is...those who want to cling to the fact that Obama is not a natural born citizen will still claim all those things are fake. They would rather focus on an imaginary problem that cannot be fixed, than to take a stand on REAL issues that can and must be addressed...but thanks for trying.

And welcome to the lonely side of truth that cow and I have been standing on in here :)

(and again...I didn't even vote for Obama....lol..)

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/23/2009 3:18:50 PM   
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And welcome to the lonely side of truth that cow and I have been standing on in here :)


I would probably stand on the wall with you but in the words of Col. Jessup the birthers "Can't Handle the Truth!"

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/23/2009 9:01:37 PM   
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He's had a passport for decades, and had to renew it several times. That requires a valid birth certificate, which has to come with official seal and all from the state of birth. That means an official document is supplied by the state of birth. How difficult is that to understand?


Cow451, are you absolutely positive that whatever he used for identification was the original, signed, and sealed live birth certificate; or was it a forgery.

And how can you be so sure that he has had a valed passport for decades? Could you please provide support for that claim?

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/24/2009 8:53:56 AM   
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He's had a passport for decades, and had to renew it several times. That requires a valid birth certificate, which has to come with official seal and all from the state of birth. That means an official document is supplied by the state of birth. How difficult is that to understand?


Cow451, are you absolutely positive that whatever he used for identification was the original, signed, and sealed live birth certificate; or was it a forgery.


Did you bother to read my post #137? The people making these claims are wrong, if not lying outright. You can look at the pictures yourself - it IS signed, it IS sealed, and it IS certified. How much more certification do you need than the Director of Hawaii's Dept of Health publicly saying that the birth certificate is legit?

-Dan.

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/24/2009 10:24:26 AM   
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He's had a passport for decades, and had to renew it several times. That requires a valid birth certificate, which has to come with official seal and all from the state of birth. That means an official document is supplied by the state of birth. How difficult is that to understand?


Cow451, are you absolutely positive that whatever he used for identification was the original, signed, and sealed live birth certificate; or was it a forgery.

And how can you be so sure that he has had a valed passport for decades? Could you please provide support for that claim?

Thanks
RC

He traveled overseas in his college days, an undisputed fact. He would have had to possess a valid passport. The State Department issues passports. Passports are issued with official (certified) proof of birth supplied by the state of birth (in this case, Hawaii). Passports have time limitations, requiring reapplication. Nobody has raised a credible claim that he traveled without a passport.

For clarity, no one has an "original" certified birth certificate. Each copy sent from the state is a "certified copy".

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/24/2009 1:07:31 PM   
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He's had a passport for decades, and had to renew it several times. That requires a valid birth certificate, which has to come with official seal and all from the state of birth. That means an official document is supplied by the state of birth. How difficult is that to understand?


Let's see...........he has all these documents?
I just wonder why he spent millions in lawyers to keep it all hush-hush?

He has a lot to hide when a $100 would clear this all up.

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/24/2009 3:17:22 PM   
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He's had a passport for decades, and had to renew it several times. That requires a valid birth certificate, which has to come with official seal and all from the state of birth. That means an official document is supplied by the state of birth. How difficult is that to understand?


Let's see...........he has all these documents?
I just wonder why he spent millions in lawyers to keep it all hush-hush?

He has a lot to hide when a $100 would clear this all up.

proof please that he has spent millions to keep this hidden.

Proof is needed.

Proof has been provided to show the opposite of what "birthers" claim...and sadly...by people who didn't even VOTE for the man, and speaking for myself, would rather he not be my president.

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/24/2009 3:59:46 PM   
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He's had a passport for decades, and had to renew it several times. That requires a valid birth certificate, which has to come with official seal and all from the state of birth. That means an official document is supplied by the state of birth. How difficult is that to understand?


Let's see...........he has all these documents?
I just wonder why he spent millions in lawyers to keep it all hush-hush?

He has a lot to hide when a $100 would clear this all up.


He got and kept a passport. That's evidence.

It would only take $100 to buy you off?

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/25/2009 7:46:05 AM   
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Let's see...........he has all these documents?
I just wonder why he spent millions in lawyers to keep it all hush-hush?

He has a lot to hide when a $100 would clear this all up.


He got and kept a passport. That's evidence.

It would only take $100 to buy you off?

LOL

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/25/2009 8:53:33 AM   
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He has a lot to hide when a $100 would clear this all up.

What exactly could he do for $100 that would clear this all up?
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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/25/2009 11:14:15 AM   
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He has a lot to hide when a $100 would clear this all up.

What exactly could he do for $100 that would clear this all up?

Give it to each birther as hush money.

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 9/25/2009 3:08:50 PM   
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He has a lot to hide when a $100 would clear this all up.

What exactly could he do for $100 that would clear this all up?

Give it to each birther as hush money.


He should just give $100 to SarahPAC. It would have the same impact and cost him less.

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RE: Right Wingnuts Still Clinging To Obama B.C. Myth - 10/13/2009 12:59:14 AM   
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He's had a passport for decades, and had to renew it several times. That requires a valid birth certificate, which has to come with official seal and all from the state of birth. That means an official document is supplied by the state of birth. How difficult is that to understand?


Cow451, are you absolutely positive that whatever he used for identification was the original, signed, and sealed live birth certificate; or was it a forgery.


Did you bother to read my post #137? The people making these claims are wrong, if not lying outright. You can look at the pictures yourself - it IS signed, it IS sealed, and it IS certified. How much more certification do you need than the Director of Hawaii's Dept of Health publicly saying that the birth certificate is legit?

-Dan.


I tried to enlarge the copy but was unable to read what it said it was so blurred.

Instead of showing what they provided in 2007, not decades ago (don't forget, Obama is a lawyer. Lawyers can get green cards for illegals if they pay them the correct amount.) why doesn't he just have this shown in court to a judge and those who are bringing the lawsuits, that is, if any judges had the courage to proceed with the case? If it is legitimate, present it in open court. Yeah, I know he's the President, lousy one that he is, but if he has nothing to hide...well, show it off
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