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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 11/11/2009 7:42:14 PM   
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Karen, could I just ask: do you nurse him to sleep or put him down awake?

Who is going to settle him tonight, you or your dh?

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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 11/11/2009 8:27:53 PM   
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Praying for you, Karen! Just remember, if you try something and it doesn't work, you're not a bad mom, then, either. Babies aren't damaged by a few different tries at sleep training, and many end up getting getter better sleep for it.

Beth is starting to nurse asleep, but then startle awake as I carry her to bed, so she fusses for a few minutes before falling back asleep (if she's tired enough and ready to sleep). I'm taking this as a good sign. Before she'd have to be put down rock-solid asleep.

Nathan and I split for a coffee shop this evening. He had his usual whipped cream (nothing else, just a cup of whipped cream), then we walked around. It was nice.

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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 11/11/2009 10:49:13 PM   
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We are having some major sleep issues in my house, and I'm lost! Levi is almost 2, you'd think we'd be past this.
Anyway, the last 3 nights when I put him to bed he immediately starts screaming, and he kept it up all 3 nights for 30 minutes to an hour. As soon as I go in and pick him up, he stops and goes to sleep on my shoulder. The second I lay him down, it starts up again. I've been going in every 5-10 minutes to briefly comfort him but otherwise ignoring him until he goes to sleep. Is that the wrong response?

Nothing has changed in our daily routine. We still do the same bedtime routine we've always done. He has been napping fine, and acting perfectly normal until bedtime. I have the same night light in his room that's always been there.

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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 11/11/2009 10:57:28 PM   
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At his age, Amber, I would just let him scream. I don't classify it as CIO because-

1) He knows you love him and knows that it is just bedtime.
2) It's IMO, defiance not really a need. Kwim?

When we went to my parents for 6 weeks Gabby decided that she was going to do the same thing at bedtime. She knows that my sister will go in and lay down with her until she falls asleep so she cries until Sadie goes to her. I finally had to put my foot down, as much as I love Gabby and Sadie, and just let Gabby scream about it for a couple nights.

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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 11/11/2009 11:09:38 PM   
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When Levi is ornery and doesn't want to sleep, I sit in the doorway with the hall light on and read a book. It's a good compromise for us because I am so close he can see me and I am not laying down with him or interacting with him at all. I can also catch him immediately when he tries to get out of bed. Sometimes I have to do that a few nights in a row and then he's fine for weeks before he decides to test me again.

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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 11/11/2009 11:17:30 PM   
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Karen, one thing about the patting idea - anything like that just got Josh more and more upset. It actually worked better to have him cry for a bit, comfort him and go. Repeat. But he settled pretty quickly and only took a couple of nights before he just fussed or whimpered a bit when I laid him down. I'm not sure I could have done full on CIO. Hopefully Logan will be much more amenable to your preferences! I also understand the need to have him nap alone - I still nap with Josh and I don't know how I am going to pull that off when the baby comes. That's one of my goals for her is to have her nap on her own after those first couple of months. So I might steal any tips you get/have! And I second the Motrin - Josh has a terrible time with teething (still working on molars) and his behavior as well as sleep is much better when we medicate the pain.

Kris



I put David down for his nap, nurse James, swaddle him, and then take a nap with him on my chest. It may not work for everyone, but by that time I am so exhausted I can fall asleep easily and the sound of my heartbeat soothes him to sleep.

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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 11/11/2009 11:24:16 PM   
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Hey Ladies....
Since sleep issues/training tend to kind of be a very tense issue for some and this is really a chat light hearted type thread, I started another thread for sleep training issues in the Parenting Folder. LINK HERE

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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 11/12/2009 6:35:55 AM   
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Anyway, the last 3 nights when I put him to bed



Amber,

What's your bedtime routine like for him? And is it always you that puts him to bed, or does your husband ever do it?

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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 11/12/2009 7:48:53 AM   
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Last night was, a bit strange. We did the routine. I laid him down. He freaked out. I hung out for awhile but no signs of calming. I picked him back up and and he nursed off to sleep in a reasonable amount of time. He slept for over 5 hours, yah! Then he got up to nurse. Daddy had gotten him so I didn't realize that he bed clothes were soaked through. So, he woke up as we changed everything. He wouldn't go to sleep so he hung out with daddy. After about 45 minutes, I went back in and nursed and he passed out almost immediately. He is still sleeping.

I doubt he is thinking on this level but it seems like he is saying I want mommy always. If I don't give him mommy at all (in bed or daddy) after a bit he will just deal with having me for a minute and sleeping. Sometimes it is like figuring out a puzzle!

I think we are going to work on those naps first and be a bit more lenient with night time. Now that I think back, that is what I did with Hannah at this age. After a couple of months she started tellng me "night night' in the evening and we put her to bed awake.

I know everyone tells you to put your baby to bed awake from the beginning. Neither one of mine would ever do that. Maybe if we have a thid.

Thank you all for the prayers.

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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 11/12/2009 7:55:52 AM   
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Mine neither, Karen. We had the baby get up at 2:30am last night, and unusually for her, she did not want to return to sleep. Nathan woke up only 2 hours after I finally got Beth down.

And this morning I woke to a post about it wasn't all that challenging for another mom to have 2 in less then 2 years, even with sleepless nights, feeding, dressing and cooking for the family. I'm sure it wan't challenging for her, but I'm just not that good at it I guess.

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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 11/12/2009 8:04:49 AM   
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Logan used, as in the past, used to get up, nurse, and go back to sleep 10-15 minutes. Not a problem. Not anymore. He wants to hang out and see what everyone is doing. We will slowly get there. We sort of follow our own way on this. Buffet of sleep approaches I guess.

quote:

And this morning I woke to a post about it wasn't all that challenging for another mom to have 2 in less then 2 years, even with sleepless nights, feeding, dressing and cooking for the family. I'm sure it wan't challenging for her, but I'm just not that good at it I guess.


That just gets me steamed. Enough with the guilt trips. Okay, you are perfect mom! You get the crown! Now go off and celebrate and let us less than perfect moms get on with our bad parenting. Why on earth do women feel the need to rub other women's nose in things like this! This is where we need sisterhood and solidarity. We need to support each other and share tips. Not crow on about how perfect we are.

I have found, in my experience, that the women who love to tell everyone what a great mother they are and how they handle everything with grace, organization, and perfect hair are normally giving a very exaggerated view. When you dig deeper you find it wasn't that easy or that perfect. They just need to convince everybody of it.

Well, I am who I am with all my gifts and weaknesses. Somethings I do well, some I fail spectacularly, but mostly I just trudge on trying to be the woman God wants me to be and fulfill my roles as wife, mother, and friend to the best of my abilities on that day.

Well, I guess that is how I feel about that.

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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 11/12/2009 8:18:44 AM   
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Eh...don't worry about anyone else. No one else has your life with your husband and your kids. Everyone has difficult days, and we all have different ways of dealing with them.

I have had hard days as a parent, and made many mistakes. I've also had good days, and some wonderful days. I am thankful that God uses my kids to help me grow, even though it is sometimes painful.


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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 11/12/2009 8:26:08 AM   
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Well, since I've gotten my grumbles out this morning...

I'm really enjoying seeing Beth's personality and playfulness come out more and more. She's getting so excited and curious about the world, and she's always trying to initiate a new game. It's just up to the rest of us to figure out the rules.

And Nathan is someone I can talk to now. Last night he told me I had the skin color of cookies. I think that's a compliment.

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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 11/12/2009 8:29:01 AM   
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I must remove my name from the Mother of the Year contest at least once anually, though usually at least 2-3 times for things like.... leaving a child having a tantrum in the store and walking away wondering why on earth she is acting this way only to go home and find that she has a fever and double ear infection- OOPS! or perhaps when in all of my post pardum glory, I stood at the back door calling my two year old who screamed her way from the swing set to the door since she had snow in her glove- oh, and instead of helping, I video taped the ordeal and tried not to laugh too hard (she also lost a boot in the snow on her way, so she was coming in barefoot in the snow, though in my defense, it really was still VERY hard for me to do stairs)

So if we want things to return to "light" talk- what are YOUR less than stellar mom moments?

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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 11/12/2009 8:41:53 AM   
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I guess I can't talk about it here, Manda, so I'll answer you in the "sleep training" thread.

ETA: Thank you to the ladies who gave me some advice/opinions. I had a feeling it was only rebellion on Levi's part, but Jeremy wasn't so convinced and I was second-guessing myself.

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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 11/12/2009 10:21:18 AM   
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Emily Ann, thanks for the suggestion! But what I meant to say is that I still have to sit with Josh for HIM to nap. And I am trying to figure out if my lap can hold a large 2 year old who must be cuddled to sleep at nap time and a newborn. Not to mention the likelihood of it being time to nurse, change a diaper etc. I do think I'll try a variant on your idea - try to get Josh to sleep with the baby laying on the couch and then hopefully we can all sleep together. I'll hold her and let Josh cuddle next tome. Right now I am doing pretty well without a nap most days, but any time they are both asleep at the same time for those first few weeks to months I am going to everything I can to join them.

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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 11/12/2009 10:26:08 AM   
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I guess I can't talk about it here, Manda, so I'll answer you in the "sleep training" thread.



Amber, I am sure that it *is* ok to talk about it here, especially as I was only asking you about bedtime routines, not sleep training methods per se.

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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 11/12/2009 10:41:01 AM   
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I agree with Manda, we aren't discussing training methods, we are discussing routines. Atleast that's what I got from it. Unless it goes that direction I didn't and still don't, see a need for yet another thread to follow to keep up with the discussion.

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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 11/12/2009 11:12:14 AM   
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OK then...

I am usually the one to put him to bed, although occasionally my husband does. Normally Levi just wants me to do it.
I give him some warning, "Levi, you have a few more minutes to play, then it will be night-night time". Then, we put on lotion and change into pajamas. I read him one book and rock him for just a minute while I sing Jesus Loves Me. Then, I lay him down and he goes to sleep or talks for a couple minutes then goes to sleep.
At least, that's how it used to go until the last few nights. I'm still doing the same thing, but he lays in there and screams instead of going to sleep.

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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 11/12/2009 11:18:47 AM   
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I'd say just keep on doing what you're doing, it's likely just a phase. Though you could switch to your husband putting him to bed just to see whether he does it for him or just for you.

How many teeth does he have?

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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 11/12/2009 11:29:53 AM   
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And I am trying to figure out if my lap can hold a large 2 year old who must be cuddled to sleep at nap time and a newborn. Not to mention the likelihood of it being time to nurse, change a diaper etc.

IME...once your belly grows too large, most toddlers will choose another position other then your lap anyway. If he doesn't though, you can over time work him down to sitting beside you on the couch instead. As for diaper changes, I do them all at the same time before nap/rest/nursing time. I don't find that it is any harder...I actually find it easier to get everything clean at once.

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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 11/12/2009 11:39:16 AM   
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Amber,

I noticed from your blog about rearranging the kids room - is Levi in his toddler bed yet, or is he still in the crib? Have you been speaking to him about needing to share his room with the new baby, or about the new baby in general? If so, I was wondering if this might have unsettled him a bit.

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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 11/12/2009 12:39:11 PM   
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Amber,

I noticed from your blog about rearranging the kids room - is Levi in his toddler bed yet, or is he still in the crib? Have you been speaking to him about needing to share his room with the new baby, or about the new baby in general? If so, I was wondering if this might have unsettled him a bit.


He's still in the crib, we don't have the toddler bed set up yet. The day this started with the nighttime struggles, my husband and I had been talking about the new baby quite a bit, and discussing what to do with the bedroom (thus my blog on rearranging). I had that thought.....wondering if all our talk had upset Levi, but I didn't think he was really old enough to "get" what we were saying or for it to affect him much. Perhaps I'm underestimating how much he understands?

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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 11/12/2009 1:26:14 PM   
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The day this started with the nighttime struggles, my husband and I had been talking about the new baby quite a bit, and discussing what to do with the bedroom (thus my blog on rearranging). I had that thought.....wondering if all our talk had upset Levi, but I didn't think he was really old enough to "get" what we were saying or for it to affect him much. Perhaps I'm underestimating how much he understands?



I think it's very possible that he could have been unsettled by it. Have you told him anything/talked to him directly about the new baby?

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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 11/12/2009 1:44:25 PM   
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There has been a thread started in the Parenting folder to discuss sleep training. It's the best place to discuss it, since fathers may have some input.

Please take the sleep training to the new folder. Thank you for your cooperation.

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