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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 10/30/2009 1:26:16 PM
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Sideways
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Well, it's a rainy Friday after a long week. Nathan went to his usual MMO, and now I'm feeling indulgent. He got 2 hotdogs, mac n cheese and grapes for lunch, along with lemonade. (Hope that's not to bad). Now he's watching The Aristocats, and I think we'll do an art project when Beth goes down for her second nap.
Pretty quiet here.
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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 10/30/2009 1:38:35 PM
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That lunch sounds like typical young kid fair.
Mine has had watered down light sugar lemonade, 2 good portions of cheese pizza and bunny grahams for lunch. She's taking a nap and I'm glad!
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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 10/30/2009 1:55:44 PM
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What else would a kid eat for lunch, Ruth?  Hotdogs are typical fare around here, as is grilled cheese or pizza.
Today it's Tomato soup(from a can) and grilled cheese. Tasty, especially since it's still cold here.
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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 10/30/2009 2:03:29 PM
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My Uncle submitted a photo yesterday to cbs4denver and made it on the "photo of the day" slot on the webpage. I thought of you :D
There'd better be some snow left when we are up there.
um.. on topic...
My kid is awesome.
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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 10/30/2009 11:52:54 PM
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David is over 16 months old and still not talking.  He says "go" but that is it.
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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 10/31/2009 12:03:02 AM
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Jacob is 21 months and doesn't say all that much. Especially in comparison to the girls who were talking a mile a minute by this point.
Oh well, I know he CAN, he just doesn't. I'm not worried. It would be nice if he would talk more so I would know what he wants.
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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 10/31/2009 1:02:38 AM
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Quiet? LOL David is NOT quiet. He makes a lot of noise, he just doesn't say any real words. He is very smart though and understands a lot. He likes to bring me his shoes and say "I go?" and if he gets a hold of my car keys he goes to the front door and hits the door knob with them while yelling "I go! I go! Go, go go!" Poor kid. I think he wants to get out more, or maybe just away from his brother. (We do make sure he gets to go somewhere, even if it is just a quick trip to the grocery store with Chris, every day.)
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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 10/31/2009 1:50:43 AM
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Sarah asked me to poke my head into this convo. since I work in early intervention, so here's my $.02. I'm not typically too worried about lack of speech until around 18mo or so (unless there are other worrisome indicators of course). Boys in particular tend to be later talkers because they're so busy DOING. There's such a huge spread for what can be considered "normal". Seriously lots of kids babble and babble and babble, then out of the blue just start talking. Here's some of what I talk about with parents when we're discussing speech concerns:
-Any concerns with his hearing? History of ear infections or tubes? Lots of ear infections or fluid in the ears can make for fuzzy hearing and often delayed speech. I ALWAYS advise parents with speech concerns to start with a good hearing test- that's the first thing to rule out.
-Are you hearing babbling? Generally it progresses from single sounds, to chains of sounds, to babbling that almost sounds like speech, with pauses and ups and downs that mimic speech patterns.
-When did he walk? Kids tend to focus on one area of development at a time. When they're working on gross motor skills like learning to walk, climb, run, etc, speech can fall by the wayside for a little while. Once those skills are established, the speech tends to pick back up.
- Does he understand what you say? It sounds like he does, and understanding of speech nearly always comes before speaking.
If he (or you) are getting frustrated because he's having trouble telling you what he wants, then you can always start using some basic sign language with him. A few basic signs like eat, more, or all done, can go a long ways.  Signing doesn't generally delay speech development, and there's some evidence that it actually helps. At the very least it gives him a way to communicate what he wants. Besides that, just talk to him as you go about your day, make a game of him trying to imitate you, etc.
Of course, any and all of this can be overruled by Mommy intuition. If you're really worried, mention it at his next dr visit and ask for a speech evaluation. Things work differently in each state, but in general ability to pay is not a factor in getting evals. and services (therapy).
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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 10/31/2009 8:10:31 AM
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Whew! Didn't mean to start anything! I just wanted to post about how happy I was to hear her baby babble, as opposed to shrieks and grunts.
Emily, my Nathan said very little even by his 18 month checkup, but he caught on fire right after that. But even Nathan was trying to talk earlier then Beth was . Most milestone charts tell you to expect babbling (with consonant sounds) by 9 months.
With my 2, I am not buying the "girls do this and boys do that". I know males and females are different, but Nathan hit verbal milestones earlier then Beth did, and he was walking at 8 months, so it's not like he just focused on verbal stuff. Beth just has a different way of going about it. She won't roll over until 6.5 months, then she'll have a huge explosion of motor skills in the next 6 weeks. I expect it'll be much the same as verbal skills.
My mom insisted on speach therapy for my brother when he turned 2 years old, and her docs said she was just being a nervous mom (this is 28 years ago), but her mommy gut was right. Plus she was a nurse, too. He had so many ear infections as a baby, that he wasn't hearing correctly. He was a very sickly baby before turning 2, then very healthy as a child. But mom was right, and speech therapy was just what he needed.
My uncle barely said a word until the age of 3, when he busted out with "May I have a glass of water?".
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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 10/31/2009 8:21:29 AM
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Oh, Nathan has been getting rougher and rougher with physical play lately. I even have to tell him to be a little more gentle with me, and I'm an adult. He's getting quite strong. He's relatively gentle with Beth, but even then his play with her would make most of you cringe. We are working with him on control now that he's getting bigger.
Now, we know he has to be careful with Beth because she's a baby, but I asked Greg if we should teach Nathan to be careful with Beth simply because she is female. Greg looked at me like I'd grown two heads. He responded "We'll need Nathan to toughen Beth up!" I had to laugh at that. I guess Beth will never be Greg's china-doll princess.
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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 10/31/2009 9:43:17 AM
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I don't normally post here as I can't be a mother, but I have some good news.
Tammy, (Tea-Tea) gave me permission to tell you that she had a little girl this morning at 3:58. She's named Audrey Elizabeth and she weighed 9lb 2oz. Tammy and Audrey are doing well.
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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 10/31/2009 10:41:58 AM
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David is over 16 months old and still not talking. He says "go" but that is it.
That's ok. Some kids are just quiet. It wasn't until Jake was 3yo that they really started looking at speech therapy to help him. (Ryanne had Gabby diagnosed and was going to get onto the speech therapy bandwagon, but she now started talking more on her own). I wouldn't really worry too much at 16mo Emily...unless there are other things that worry you too. Some kids are just slower then others. Jack finally got beyond his 3-5 word vocabulary about 34mo.
I agree. We will still continue speech therapy with Gabby because she has a lisp issue but I don't think that she has apraxia. She's picked up probably 15 new words in the past 2 weeks and is starting to form sentences.
With Gabby, I think that she (like my MIL kept telling me) just developed *very* physically before she did verbally. The girl was scaling a chain link fence(up one side and down the other) at 24 months but only had 6-10 words she was using. She is probably at 30-40 words now but that still puts her behind the "curve".
Anyway, there isn't any real "standard" for speech until around 18-24 months and I know our EI coordinator said they typically won't evaluate until they are closer to 2 as it's common for kids to have a major verbal explosion between 18-24 months after their physical development(learning to walk, etc...) slows down.
Gabby was ahead of the game in every area except expressive communication. It really was nice to have her evaluated though, it really only confirmed what I already knew but it was nice to have a diagnosis.
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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 11/1/2009 11:22:17 PM
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What do you do to teach a 21 month old to stop hitting. He does it when he's mad and he does it when he's happy - he thinks it's playing then. He is an outgoing and aggressive child. Nathan likes to wrestle with him and he has only older siblings. He does seem to be gentle with his baby cousin (she's 9 months now). Nathan has taught him to high-5 which is really hitting when you think of it from a toddler's perspective - just hitting someone's hand instead of their arm or back.
So - anyway - what can I do to curb this bad habit?!
Now when he hits, we firmly say no and he has to say sorry (give a hug) to the person he hit.
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RE: Baby Chat 6! - 11/2/2009 8:36:59 AM
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At that age we started using high-5 as an alternative to hitting but also teaching that the person had to hold their hand out for it to be ok. With one of us, first hit was a "No hitting, high 5?", second we would either put him down or stop playing (briefly), third was normally a time-out. Sometimes we would spank but that seemed counterproductive for hitting so we only used it if it had been a repeat problem. I don't mean throughout the day, but several timeouts in a row had no effect. With other kids I would go over and address the issue - tell him it was not nice and normally apologize for him. As advanced as he is verbally we still have problems with getting him to apologize now so at 21 months I found that was better. At that age he was usually hitting (and this was rare) in response to having a toy taken, being shoved first etc. so I didn't do much more than that. Over the summer he became a bit more aggressive and had a general down turn in behavior so in addition to the above I would pull him out of the play time for varying lengths of time depending on provocation and exactly what he did. A big kid takes his toy and he swats once -30 seconds with Mama. He walks up, hits a little one and takes a toy - over a minute. Now at almost 2.5, he spends about a minute with me for hitting no matter what led to it. I have made a couple of "kids will be kids" exceptions when no one seemed upset and I wasn't exactly sure what had happened. I don't generally let the other kids being upset or not effect pulling him out of the play time though. But it really hasn't been a big problem (seems to come in 2-3 week cycles then gone for a while) for us so I don't know if that will help your situation.
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)...I wish we'd started with Hannah sooner since we'd have been actually working on the verbal apraxia and not just "waiting" for her words to come...
I agree with you. When Hannah was 27 months old and wasn't really talking I should have been more pro-active.
