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So who is really out of touch? Humm. - 10/9/2008 5:25:27 PM
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lightshineon
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Last night on Larry King Michelle Obama was the guest. I will say she acted, the key word "acted" in a gracious manner. The kicker was Larry ask Michelle how the current stock market, banking collapse, ordeal had impacted the Obamas personally, she looked dazed, and said something to the effect, she did not know they, had been so busy, on the campaign trail, they had not talked about their finances. Now if this would have been old Katie and Sarah there would have been poll, a bunch of SNL skits, Anderson Cooper, and team analyzing it to death, and so on, and on.
Do the Obamas have it so well, so far removed from people ( the middle class), they have no need to check in and see if they have had finacial loss. Obama, does not have a clue, about the poor or middle class. This proves they are far removed to understanding. On there down time though, Obama watches sports, and they during that time could of looked if necessary at their situation.
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RE: So who is really out of touch? Humm. - 10/9/2008 5:52:42 PM
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Even more out of touch was this nonsense from the alpha and omega himself. "You know, a lot of you remember the tragedy of 9/11..."
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RE: So who is really out of touch? Humm. - 10/9/2008 6:50:42 PM
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I don't know how it's affected me either. I open my 401K statements once a year. At my age, it's appropriately allocated 50/50 stocks and bonds so there's no need to get anxious. I have two, both totalling less than $100,000. Many financial planners tell you not to check too often because you'll get too upset and may make a poor decision. In addition, my statement comes out quarterly which means I should get one in the next couple of weeks.
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RE: So who is really out of touch? Humm. - 10/9/2008 6:55:52 PM
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In all fairness I don't see the McCain's so in touch either with their 8 homes and likely not a single one of them in threat of foreclosure.
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RE: So who is really out of touch? Humm. - 10/10/2008 5:14:47 AM
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Last night on Larry King Michelle Obama was the guest. I will say she acted, the key word "acted" in a gracious manner. The kicker was Larry ask Michelle how the current stock market, banking collapse, ordeal had impacted the Obamas personally, she looked dazed, and said something to the effect, she did not know they, had been so busy, on the campaign trail, they had not talked about their finances. Now if this would have been old Katie and Sarah there would have been poll, a bunch of SNL skits, Anderson Cooper, and team analyzing it to death, and so on, and on.
Do the Obamas have it so well, so far removed from people ( the middle class), they have no need to check in and see if they have had finacial loss. Obama, does not have a clue, about the poor or middle class. This proves they are far removed to understanding. On there down time though, Obama watches sports, and they during that time could of looked if necessary at their situation.
Ask any wife at your church how the family's investments fared over the past few weeks, and you might get a similar response. I know that we have not surveyed the damage, ourselves. I am quite certain that the Obamas have someone handling their finances for them. Barack has admitted that because of his book sales, he is in that $250,000+ bracket that he thinks can afford to pay more taxes to help get our country out of its financial shortfall. But don't assume that because the Obamas are doing well financially that they don't have genuine compassion for people who aren't as fortunate. And the fact that Michelle doesn't know how the investments are doing, does NOT PROVE ANYTHING. Over the past year, the Obamas have met more struggling folks than any of us will meet in a lifetime. Before entering politics, Barack worked to help out-of-work steel workers get on with their lives.
What's the problem with Barack watching sports? Doesn't watching sports make him more like us poor slobs? If you think he should be engaged in more cerebral pursuits, remember that unlike McCain (who couldn't get through a 2 1/2-page document from Paulson), Barack reads books and writes his own speeches.
Out of touch. If wealth necessarily blinds one to the plight of poor folks, imagine how sightless the McCains must then be. At least the Obamas still own just ONE HOUSE.
Too many Christians are too quick to take offense at such ridiculous little things.
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RE: So who is really out of touch? Humm. - 10/10/2008 8:00:49 AM
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What's the problem with Barack watching sports? Doesn't watching sports make him more like us poor slobs? If you think he should be engaged in more cerebral pursuits, remember that unlike McCain (who couldn't get through a 2 1/2-page document from Paulson), Barack reads books and writes his own speeches
He is so consumed with himself he is out of touch with people. He is only in touch with personal hunger for power,control and applause of the crowd.
McCain's wealth doesn't put him in touch with the people but it doeasn' distance him from them either.
Personaly I don't think the vast majority of congress has any idea what the common folk experience from day to day. If they evr did, they forgot a long time ago.
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RE: So who is really out of touch? Humm. - 10/10/2008 8:59:02 AM
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What's the problem with Barack watching sports? Doesn't watching sports make him more like us poor slobs? If you think he should be engaged in more cerebral pursuits, remember that unlike McCain (who couldn't get through a 2 1/2-page document from Paulson), Barack reads books and writes his own speeches
He is so consumed with himself he is out of touch with people. He is only in touch with personal hunger for power,control and applause of the crowd.
McCain's wealth doesn't put him in touch with the people but it doeasn' distance him from them either.
Personaly I don't think the vast majority of congress has any idea what the common folk experience from day to day. If they evr did, they forgot a long time ago.
Keep yur powder dry, and keep it hid. The Day, she is approaching.
Hmm, I disagree.
McCain turned out to be a HUGE disappointment. He's getting desperate. BO's in the lead and it's driving JM crazy, so he's resorting to slander. BO's reactions are cool and wise, though he can play dirty too, it's the way he does it. The proof of JM comments just goes to show he doesn't really have anything left to stand on. I'm still GOP, but....
Let's see what happens next week between the two.
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RE: So who is really out of touch? Humm. - 10/10/2008 10:49:51 AM
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Have you ever thought that they may be too busy trying to help other people than worrying about their finances? people try to fit others into their own personal molds and win you find it hard to fit a square peg into a hole, you somehow find fault. I don't keep track of my own finances. Why? Because I can't do anything about it. You can't trade your 401k. And I'm not anywhere close to retirement. So, what's the point? I think it's great that they are focusing on more pressing issues than themselves. Especially when you have steady income.
Also, how would you feel if you were led to write a book and made money off of it. Like the lady who wrote the Harry Potter series. Would you like being called elite and out of touch? It's a book that is doing very well. I plan on writing a book. Will I transform into elitism if it does well?
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RE: So who is really out of touch? Humm. - 10/10/2008 11:52:10 AM
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I know how much I have lost about 400.00. Many people will lose their jobs. Many companies have to let people go. It just makes me think if you are interested, and studying all asspects of this crisis you would study it enough to see if you were hit, and how it would harm your family, so you could relate, to the common man. I am sorry, I do not buy his selflessness bit. He is out of touch, and talks a good talk. So McCain has owned nine houses the average Joe owns five in his life time. May they are investments. He is smarter than Obama. The he really voted to tax a person ( single) making 42,000 dollars a year a couople making 83,000. If Sarah Palin would have said this it would have been a big stink. I hate the media, they fool people, who just do not get it.
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RE: So who is really out of touch? Humm. - 10/10/2008 12:00:12 PM
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I know how much I have lost about 400.00. Many people will lose their jobs. Many companies have to let people go. It just makes me think if you are interested, and studying all asspects of this crisis you would study it enough to see if you were hit, and how it would harm your family, so you could relate, to the common man. I am sorry, I do not buy his selflessness bit. He is out of touch, and talks a good talk. So McCain has owned nine houses the average Joe owns five in his life time. May they are investments. He is smarter than Obama. The he really voted to tax a person ( single) making 42,000 dollars a year a couople making 83,000. If Sarah Palin would have said this it would have been a big stink. I hate the media, they fool people, who just do not get it.
I can be a common man and not worry about my finances. I'm not rich, but I'm not poor. I don't check my bank account every day and make detailed reports on where they are going and I have time on my hands. Obama has very little time. Let the man campaign.
By the way. If you want to talk about someone who is out of touch and can't relate to the common man, let's talk about how much McCain is tracking his own finances when the man doesn't eve know how many houses he owns. Really.
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RE: So who is really out of touch? Humm. - 10/10/2008 12:07:05 PM
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Why ask who is out of touch??
Why not ask who is most in touch?
Out of the four, the only sane answer would have to be Palin.
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RE: So who is really out of touch? Humm. - 10/10/2008 12:23:43 PM
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Why ask who is out of touch??
Why not ask who is most in touch?
Out of the four, the only sane answer would have to be Palin.
She's disqualified. Right not she's in touch with McCain. I can hardly tell the two apart. Oh yeah. She SHOULD be concerned about Troopergate.
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RE: So who is really out of touch? Humm. - 10/10/2008 12:30:19 PM
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Ask any wife at your church how the family's investments fared over the past few weeks, and you might get a similar response. I know that we have not surveyed the damage, ourselves. I am quite certain that the Obamas have someone handling their finances for them. Barack has admitted that because of his book sales, he is in that $250,000+ bracket that he thinks can afford to pay more taxes to help get our country out of its financial shortfall. But don't assume that because the Obamas are doing well financially that they don't have genuine compassion for people who aren't as fortunate. And the fact that Michelle doesn't know how the investments are doing, does NOT PROVE ANYTHING. Over the past year, the Obamas have met more struggling folks than any of us will meet in a lifetime. Before entering politics, Barack worked to help out-of-work steel workers get on with their lives.
What's the problem with Barack watching sports? Doesn't watching sports make him more like us poor slobs? If you think he should be engaged in more cerebral pursuits, remember that unlike McCain (who couldn't get through a 2 1/2-page document from Paulson), Barack reads books and writes his own speeches.
Out of touch. If wealth necessarily blinds one to the plight of poor folks, imagine how sightless the McCains must then be. At least the Obamas still own just ONE HOUSE.
Too many Christians are too quick to take offense at such ridiculous little things.
Agreed
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RE: So who is really out of touch? Humm. - 10/10/2008 12:43:23 PM
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She SHOULD be concerned about Troopergate.
Why? because she did something that is well within her rights as a governor to do?
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RE: So who is really out of touch? Humm. - 10/10/2008 12:48:46 PM
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I don't think any of them are in touch. Because we have made politics a career instead of a service and a sacrifice they will never be in touch. I wonder how many of these folks would be in office if they got 60K a year nd worked from 7am-7pm, with little benefits. i wonder if they would be in the position if it required 100% honesty, integrity, and transparency and accountability. I wonder if they would have this job if they had to actually talk about the issues and show their record instead of bash this and bash that on so and so. Let me get off of my soap box now...
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RE: So who is really out of touch? Humm. - 10/10/2008 12:57:17 PM
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I don't think any of them are in touch. Because we have made politics a career instead of a service and a sacrifice they will never be in touch. I wonder how many of these folks would be in office if they got 60K a year nd worked from 7am-7pm, with little benefits. i wonder if they would be in the position if it required 100% honesty, integrity, and transparency and accountability. I wonder if they would have this job if they had to actually talk about the issues and show their record instead of bash this and bash that on so and so. Let me get off of my soap box now...
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that on so and so. Let me get off of my soap box now...
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RE: So who is really out of touch? Humm. - 10/10/2008 1:05:24 PM
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She SHOULD be concerned about Troopergate.
Why? because she did something that is well within her rights as a governor to do?
To be determined.
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RE: So who is really out of touch? Humm. - 10/10/2008 1:08:18 PM
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yea just let us know how we do politics without becoming politicians so we can realize how smart you are in saying that
Easy. Take the most of the money out of it. Term limits. Have a slaughter of the elephant and the donkey too. Make more decisions on the local level.
thats a start for now.
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RE: So who is really out of touch? Humm. - 10/10/2008 1:13:49 PM
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Ask any wife at your church how the family's investments fared over the past few weeks, and you might get a similar response. I know that we have not surveyed the damage, ourselves. I am quite certain that the Obamas have someone handling their finances for them. Barack has admitted that because of his book sales, he is in that $250,000+ bracket that he thinks can afford to pay more taxes to help get our country out of its financial shortfall.
How does paying more taxes do this? Could you please point to time in history when this actually got us out of a recession? Of course you can't please stop this silliness.
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But don't assume that because the Obamas are doing well financially that they don't have genuine compassion for people who aren't as fortunate. And the fact that Michelle doesn't know how the investments are doing, does NOT PROVE ANYTHING.
Sure it does , it proves she is clueless to her own financial matters and I wonder if Barak has any clue, or does he pay people lots of money to take care of this for him?
Wow! Wish i had that luxury.
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Over the past year, the Obamas have met more struggling folks than any of us will meet in a lifetime. Before entering politics, Barack worked to help out-of-work steel workers get on with their lives.
How ? Please be specific to show you even know what you are saying.
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What's the problem with Barack watching sports? Doesn't watching sports make him more like us poor slobs? If you think he should be engaged in more cerebral pursuits, remember that unlike McCain (who couldn't get through a 2 1/2-page document from Paulson), Barack reads books and writes his own speeches.
If he says tells the media he is going to the gym to work out instead of keeping an appt to see injured soldiers like he has done in the past, it shows he doesn't care and had bad priorities.
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Out of touch. If wealth necessarily blinds one to the plight of poor folks, imagine how sightless the McCains must then be. At least the Obamas still own just ONE HOUSE.
Too many Christians are too quick to take offense at such ridiculous little things.
At least McCain has been destitute and imprisoned with no way out before.
Obama has always had his way paved through affirmative action to get to the top with out ever holding a position of responsibility or sweating it out at all.
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RE: So who is really out of touch? Humm. - 10/10/2008 1:19:22 PM
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I think both are ridiculous indicators. If McCain's wife invests in real estate, it's not surprising that he doesn't pay attention and isn't sure how many houses they own right now because that's her department. If Obama is the one who keeps track of the investments, it's not surprising that Michelle doesn't know exactly how the economy has affected them as of right this second, because that's his department. I don't know and honestly I don't particularly want to know how our investment accounts are doing right now, I have enough to worry about. I just know we're not messing with them. My husband takes care of the particulars, that's his department, I trust him on it. He, on the other hand, couldn't tell you how much we spent on the electric bill last month, because that's my department, and he trusts me to take care of it. It doesn't mean he's out of touch, it just means that unless there's a major issue with it, I pay the bill with the rest of the bills and don't bother him about it. It works for us. *shrug*
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RE: So who is really out of touch? Humm. - 10/10/2008 1:28:18 PM
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Because we have made politics a career instead of a service and a sacrifice they will never be in touch.
I agree with this statement.
I don't feel like there are more than a handful of politicians that are truely there to serve their electorate.
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RE: So who is really out of touch? Humm. - 10/10/2008 2:10:52 PM
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He's getting desperate. BO's in the lead and it's driving JM crazy, so he's resorting to slander. BO's reactions are cool and wise, though he can play dirty too, it's the way he does it. The proof of JM comments just goes to show he doesn't really have anything left to stand on. I'm still GOP, but....
Let's see what happens next week between the two.
I do not believe McCain is resorting to slander ... for it to be slander, it would have to be untrue. There is a real concern about the motivation, judgment and truthfulness of Obama. The mistake is this should have been done earlier in the campaign, because it is being used as a hail Mary move, it gives a more sinister appearance, but the things the McCain campaign is saying about the individuals Obama has chosen to befriend on his path to his political career are true.
I wonder if anything damaging will come to light regarding Tony Rezco, Rezco has decided to talk to the prosecutors. They are speculating he will be giving names of politicions in exchange for a lighter sentence ... who knows what he will say and if it will be said before or after the election.
I am not sure how one sheds light on an opponent who may not be as truthful as he comes across. Its a tricky line at best. The present allegations about Obama are important truths, compared to the untrue rumors perpetuated about Sarah Palin.
Hard to believe that the first political contests were worse than what we see today!
Edited to add ... I posted this thinking I was in a different thread ... oops!!
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RE: So who is really out of touch? Humm. - 10/11/2008 12:41:00 AM
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ORIGINAL: lightshineon
Last night on Larry King Michelle Obama was the guest. I will say she acted, the key word "acted" in a gracious manner. The kicker was Larry ask Michelle how the current stock market, banking collapse, ordeal had impacted the Obamas personally, she looked dazed, and said something to the effect, she did not know they, had been so busy, on the campaign trail, they had not talked about their finances. Now if this would have been old Katie and Sarah there would have been poll, a bunch of SNL skits, Anderson Cooper, and team analyzing it to death, and so on, and on.
Do the Obamas have it so well, so far removed from people ( the middle class), they have no need to check in and see if they have had finacial loss. Obama, does not have a clue, about the poor or middle class. This proves they are far removed to understanding. On there down time though, Obama watches sports, and they during that time could of looked if necessary at their situation.
Ask any wife at your church how the family's investments fared over the past few weeks, and you might get a similar response. I know that we have not surveyed the damage, ourselves. I am quite certain that the Obamas have someone handling their finances for them. Barack has admitted that because of his book sales, he is in that $250,000+ bracket that he thinks can afford to pay more taxes to help get our country out of its financial shortfall. But don't assume that because the Obamas are doing well financially that they don't have genuine compassion for people who aren't as fortunate. And the fact that Michelle doesn't know how the investments are doing, does NOT PROVE ANYTHING. Over the past year, the Obamas have met more struggling folks than any of us will meet in a lifetime. Before entering politics, Barack worked to help out-of-work steel workers get on with their lives.
What's the problem with Barack watching sports? Doesn't watching sports make him more like us poor slobs? If you think he should be engaged in more cerebral pursuits, remember that unlike McCain (who couldn't get through a 2 1/2-page document from Paulson), Barack reads books and writes his own speeches.
Out of touch. If wealth necessarily blinds one to the plight of poor folks, imagine how sightless the McCains must then be. At least the Obamas still own just ONE HOUSE.
Too many Christians are too quick to take offense at such ridiculous little things.
False: Barack has admitted that because of his book sales, he is in that $250,000+
True: They had that figure covered way before any book was published.
False: Barack...writes his own speeches.
True: BHO got caught stealing a speech from the governor of Massachusettes last winter. When he's not stealing speeches he uses speech writers.
Here is something that's really out of touch. George Obama, BH's brother, lives in a shack in a crime and disease infested slum. Yet BHO has repeatedly said, "I am my brother's keeper."
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