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RE: Should this man have to take down his signs? - 10/9/2008 1:24:51 PM
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StephK
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If he owns the lot then he has the right to say who does or doesn't park there.
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RE: Should this man have to take down his signs? - 10/9/2008 1:40:50 PM
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raspberry331
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Oh,I agree with you,Steph.
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RE: Should this man have to take down his signs? - 10/9/2008 1:48:07 PM
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stamper_ben
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It's a joke people! It's not like he's towing them away.
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RE: Should this man have to take down his signs? - 10/9/2008 1:49:39 PM
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Zhi
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I would say that he has as much right to put signs on his property (lot) as people have to put signs on their property (cars).
It's also been established that people can put specifications for parking on property they own (Blahmart parking only).
The whole thing is kind of silly. Would I have done it? No. But then again I don't put bumper stickers on my car either.
Next thing you know my boss is going to get sued for racism for the joke "Scottish only parking" sign she has on her private space at the building she owns. *eyeroll*
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RE: Should this man have to take down his signs? - 10/9/2008 1:53:41 PM
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adelphi_sky
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I don't see the harm. If he enforces it, then that's a can of worms.
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RE: Should this man have to take down his signs? - 10/9/2008 1:59:02 PM
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Zhi
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My guess is that someone is going to get all uppity and sue him, or vandalize his lot. At which point he will stop allowing people to park in his lot entirely, and everyone, including the whiners, will be out a free parking space. After all, it's his lot, and he can do what he wants.
Think the Obama supporters will be happier with a new sign that says "No parking for anyone due to the Obama supporters?"
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RE: Should this man have to take down his signs? - 10/9/2008 2:02:25 PM
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colliefan
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It's a joke...get over it
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RE: Should this man have to take down his signs? - 10/9/2008 2:12:04 PM
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I don't see the harm. If he enforces it, then that's a can of worms.
Shouldn't be... He should have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason and those who champion choice should support his right to choose who parks in HIS lot...
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RE: Should this man have to take down his signs? - 10/9/2008 2:17:53 PM
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adelphi_sky
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I don't see the harm. If he enforces it, then that's a can of worms.
Shouldn't be... He should have the right to refuse service to anyone for any reason and those who champion choice should support his right to choose who parks in HIS lot...
If you don't think that would open up a can of worms, then that's your opinion. Trust, a few people there said they had nowhere else to park. I'm sure it will cause a stir whether he has the right to refuse people or not. At any rate, it wouldn't be very good for his business to discriminate on party affiliation.
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RE: Should this man have to take down his signs? - 10/9/2008 2:27:56 PM
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Zhi
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I don't think he actually has a business, at least none was mentioned and I didn't see any businesses that appeared to be bordering the parking lot in the video. He appears to just own an empty, graveled lot that people can park in, and he lets people park there for free. *shrug* Just as businesses can tow people who park in their lots without patronizing their businesses, I would guess it would be legal to tow people with Obama stickers if you had a sign up stating you would.
I find it difficult to believe that there's "nowhere else to park" though. There appeared to be streets with parking in the video also. And has been noted, he's not actually doing stuff to people, other than apparently making them snippy.
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RE: Should this man have to take down his signs? - 10/9/2008 2:56:34 PM
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It's a joke people! It's not like he's towing them away.
I agree! This isn't the big deal that everyone's making it out to be. And I hope it stays that way!
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RE: Should this man have to take down his signs? - 10/9/2008 3:44:18 PM
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If the business across the street from said parking lot has a contract to allow it's employees to park there and the parking lot owner is denying them the ability to do so, then the owner of the parking lot is direct violation of the contract. Even if it's a verbal agreement that allows for parking he may in violation of a verbal contract, and those have been known to be upheld in a court of law.
There's also the legality of whether or not he can deny people the ability to park there if it's the only place to do so.
It's not about being offended, it's purely about legality and he may be in violation of the law.
He has the right to express his opinion. He could put up all the anti-Obama signs he wanted; but the moment he tries to deny someone the ability to park is when he might be crossing into the realm of illegality.
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RE: Should this man have to take down his signs? - 10/9/2008 3:52:19 PM
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SonInMe1
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He should have the right to refuse service to anyone
Unfortuantly in this country this is not true. Whole buncha laws saying you have to serve certain people. Lotsa people died and went to jail in the 60's and earlier, so everyone can be served.....
yeah, I am waiting for the race card to be played in this. In North Carolina...the south...a man, probably white, is keeping the supporters of a black man running for president from his public extablishment.
I am surprised Jesse isn't there yet.
OH THAT IS RIGHT
its a joke.
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RE: Should this man have to take down his signs? - 10/9/2008 3:52:28 PM
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campbe33
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I don't think he should have to take his signs down if it's a private lot he owns. I think it would have been in better taste though if he had put up signs showing his support for John McCain instead.
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RE: Should this man have to take down his signs? - 10/9/2008 4:04:02 PM
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mapachito13
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its a joke.
'Nuff said! Let's move on from this non-issue. The owner even states he's not going to enforce his "ban". So it's much ado about nothing!
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RE: Should this man have to take down his signs? - 10/9/2008 4:09:15 PM
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kernsfamily
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I remember during the LAST election.... the parking lot at the UAW headquarters in Detroit would NOT let you park there if you had ANY candidate stickers on your car supporting ANYONE the union was not "endorsing"..........
even if you had "official business" at the UAW building, you were forced to park elsewhere.
pretty petty if you ask me.
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RE: Should this man have to take down his signs? - 10/9/2008 4:12:47 PM
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Evangel70
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It's not about being offended, it's purely about legality and he may be in violation of the law.
He has the right to express his opinion. He could put up all the anti-Obama signs he wanted; but the moment he tries to deny someone the ability to park is when he might be crossing into the realm of illegality.
I agree. For those who think it's just a joke, imagine your favorite restaurant puting a sign up at the door saying, "No seating available for McCain Supporters". Would you think it's just funny and drive to another restaurant?
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RE: Should this man have to take down his signs? - 10/9/2008 4:16:15 PM
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I'm sure this is providing him hours of entertainment watching people go apoplectic over it.
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RE: Should this man have to take down his signs? - 10/9/2008 4:19:34 PM
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stamper_ben
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For those who think it's just a joke, imagine your favorite restaurant puting a sign up at the door saying, "No seating available for McCain Supporters". Would you think it's just funny and drive to another restaurant? Not if I told him I was from the county Republican party and we wanted to have a large to-do there and were probably gonna drop several thousand dollars in his pocket. I'm more than sure he'd take the sign down.
But that is not what this story is about. The lot owner is not towing anyone and there is no enforcement of the sign he says he put up for comedic value.
Move along folks. There's nothing to see here.
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RE: Should this man have to take down his signs? - 10/9/2008 4:27:36 PM
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I can't speak for others, obviously, but I try to keep an eye on who donates to who and try to stay out of local businesses who support the left. Luckily, I live in an area where they are few and far between. As of this writing, that's still legal, of course that's likely subject to change.
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RE: Should this man have to take down his signs? - 10/9/2008 4:34:28 PM
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Yes, he doesn't have the right to have a sign that targets a specific group (and yes I would say the same thing if this was the other way around), I'm pretty sure it's a local law or even state law that prevents that. No business or service can refuse their service to because of your political affiliation, race, nationality, or religion, point blank.
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RE: Should this man have to take down his signs? - 10/9/2008 4:35:05 PM
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If the business across the street from said parking lot has a contract to allow it's employees to park there and the parking lot owner is denying them the ability to do so, then the owner of the parking lot is direct violation of the contract. Even if it's a verbal agreement that allows for parking he may in violation of a verbal contract, and those have been known to be upheld in a court of law.
There's also the legality of whether or not he can deny people the ability to park there if it's the only place to do so.
It's not about being offended, it's purely about legality and he may be in violation of the law.
He has the right to express his opinion. He could put up all the anti-Obama signs he wanted; but the moment he tries to deny someone the ability to park is when he might be crossing into the realm of illegality.
I think the term would be breach of contract not illegality. If he has a vaild contract, he can sue, but it woul dbe a civil case.
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RE: Should this man have to take down his signs? - 10/9/2008 4:38:22 PM
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jkdjr25
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ORIGINAL: jkdjr25
If the business across the street from said parking lot has a contract to allow it's employees to park there and the parking lot owner is denying them the ability to do so, then the owner of the parking lot is direct violation of the contract. Even if it's a verbal agreement that allows for parking he may in violation of a verbal contract, and those have been known to be upheld in a court of law.
There's also the legality of whether or not he can deny people the ability to park there if it's the only place to do so.
It's not about being offended, it's purely about legality and he may be in violation of the law.
He has the right to express his opinion. He could put up all the anti-Obama signs he wanted; but the moment he tries to deny someone the ability to park is when he might be crossing into the realm of illegality.
I think the term would be breach of contract not illegality. If he has a vaild contract, he can sue, but it woul dbe a civil case.
Unless the denial of service is also against the local ordinances. While the contention between the two businesses would indeed be a civil matter, the denial of service could be against local laws and ordinances thus making it a matter of legality.
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