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When God's Will Is Not Your Will - 10/8/2008 7:50:40 AM
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walkin2e
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Have you ever faced this?
When God's Will Is Not Your Will
Luke 22 verse 42 "Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done."
As a Christian, we are to seek God's will for our life, and for our situations. If we truly trust and have faith in God, He will do what is best, because His plans for us are right. I am sure that Jesus, as a man, did not want to face the cross, but He knew that it was the Father's plan. Other people, including some of His closest friends, family, and disciples, did not understand this simple fact...Jesus came to do the will of the Father.
Many times, the Lord places us in situations that we as human beings, do not want, do not desire, do not understand. Yet, we need to be submissive to the Father's will. Are you in a job where you know the Lord wants you, yet you are seeking a change? Are you living in an area where the Lord placed you, yet you are seeking to move? Are there some obnoxious people in your life, and you can't get rid of them? I could go on and on with the questions, and I am sure your answers would be yes. Just relax, give it to the Lord, and He will give you grace under pressure to endure until His divine purposes are accomplished.
Joseph was sold into slavery by his own kinfolk, yet he came to realize that God had placed him there for a time, a season, and a purpose. That story in the book of Genesis is one full of injustices, disappointments, heartache, and grief. In the end, however, it is a story of great victory and triumph...all because it was God's will.
Sometimes people you love and care for leave you, and are no longer a part of your life. God placed them there for a season and a reason. I have seen many people come and go in my lifetime, yet one always remains. He is my best friend, Jesus. I know I can trust Him in all things, even when I don't understand. After all, He was willing to follow the Father's will and give His life for me.
We should all be able to pray, "Our Father which art in heaven, hallowed be thy name, thy will be done as in heaven, so in earth".
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RE: When God's Will Is Not Your Will - 10/8/2008 8:19:27 AM
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Thank you for your post. You're 100% correct.
I suspect many people pray: "Thy will be done" and then add sotto voce "as long as it's what I want."
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RE: When God's Will Is Not Your Will - 10/8/2008 10:16:51 AM
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We must make God's will our will,
NOT our will God's will.
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RE: When God's Will Is Not Your Will - 10/8/2008 10:27:27 AM
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Walkin2e...a guy who truly gets it!
Thank you for being you!
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RE: When God's Will Is Not Your Will - 10/8/2008 11:13:35 AM
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I think most of my life is lived under that struggle. It's a struggle most days to follow through and obey. But no matter how hard things get, to live any other way, just doesn't really appeal to me anymore. This is why I think the "Father, use me" type prayer is the most dangerous prayer you can make - because he'll answer it!
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RE: When God's Will Is Not Your Will - 10/8/2008 11:21:31 AM
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Beautifully said walkin2e. You are always a blessing to us. Thank you.
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RE: When God's Will Is Not Your Will - 10/8/2008 11:28:24 AM
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Beautifully said walkin2e. You are always a blessing to us. Thank you.
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I agree.
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RE: When God's Will Is Not Your Will - 10/8/2008 1:00:22 PM
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walkin2e, you always post the most wonderful things. Thank you for being a blessing!
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RE: When God's Will Is Not Your Will - 10/8/2008 1:20:34 PM
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As I've said before, though, what's the point of free will if we always have to submit to God's will (or always have to choose God's will)?
And what's the point of prayer if God's will is the only will that shall be done? If I want something different in my life, why bother praying for it if God is just going to do whatever He wants anyway?
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RE: When God's Will Is Not Your Will - 10/8/2008 1:26:41 PM
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This post is a real plus. Thanks
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RE: When God's Will Is Not Your Will - 10/8/2008 1:29:46 PM
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It means I'm not going to like it...but being sold out to God ....I'm going to submit anyway knowing who HE is and that HE is trust-worthy.
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RE: When God's Will Is Not Your Will - 10/8/2008 1:33:25 PM
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Thank you so much for this post walkin2e. You are always a blessing.
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RE: When God's Will Is Not Your Will - 10/8/2008 1:48:10 PM
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True submission to God's will especially when He is laying something on our hearts opposite of what we want to do is a true test for all Christians. I will admit I find it quite difficult to do at times since I am a strongly opinionated person.
If we truly strive to " grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ " then we must be willing to surrender all to him, even our own free will.
Thanks for the post walkin2e. I am about to go on my morning " power prayer walk " and asking the Holy Spirit to shape my heart to conform to God's will for my life is a the top of my list today.
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RE: When God's Will Is Not Your Will - 10/8/2008 2:20:32 PM
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I read somewhere the other day that the Father will never use His children! He may anoint and bless us but He never 'uses' us. The word 'use' sounds like it puts us at a disadvanage. I know this is merely terminology and you don't mean 'use' in a negative context here but it did make me think that we can be misunderstood by non Christians with our Christian terminology sometimes. 
On the contrary. Some may think the word "use" is not appropriate, but a dictionary definition of this word is "to put into action or service." That should be the prayer of every Christian, that God will put each of us into action or service for His kingdom.
For example, Hosea 12:13 records that "The LORD used a prophet to bring Israel up from Egypt, by a prophet he cared for him." (NIV)
And 2 Timothy 2:20-22 reminds us how we can be useful instruments to do good work for God: "In a large house there are articles not only of gold and silver, but also of wood and clay; some are for noble purposes and some for ignoble. If a man cleanses himself from the latter, he will be an instrument for noble purposes, made holy, useful to the Master and prepared to do any good work." (NIV)
Blessings,
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RE: When God's Will Is Not Your Will - 10/8/2008 2:21:57 PM
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ORIGINAL: TorchHeart
As I've said before, though, what's the point of free will if we always have to submit to God's will (or always have to choose God's will)?
And what's the point of prayer if God's will is the only will that shall be done? If I want something different in my life, why bother praying for it if God is just going to do whatever He wants anyway?
Sometimes God gives us what we want instead of what He wants for us. How often is that truly a good thing? IME- never!
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RE: When God's Will Is Not Your Will - 10/8/2008 2:23:23 PM
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ORIGINAL: TorchHeart
As I've said before, though, what's the point of free will if we always have to submit to God's will (or always have to choose God's will)?
And what's the point of prayer if God's will is the only will that shall be done? If I want something different in my life, why bother praying for it if God is just going to do whatever He wants anyway?
It has to do with love. I can compare it to my relationship between my husband and myself. I love him greatly, so I want to do whatever I can to show him how much I love him, to do things for him, to find out what his desires and wishes are and to fulfill those. And he does the same for me.
That's how it is with God. It's not a matter of God getting his way, it's a matter of us loving him so much that we want to do what he asks of us. And, the bonus is, he blesses us for it.
Peace,
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RE: When God's Will Is Not Your Will - 10/8/2008 2:24:34 PM
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ORIGINAL: TorchHeart
As I've said before, though, what's the point of free will if we always have to submit to God's will (or always have to choose God's will)?
You do not have to submit to anything. You have the privilege of allowing God to bring you fulfillment, by being what you were created to be, or you can go your own way and be unfulfilled. The choice is always yours. That is the point of free will.
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And what's the point of prayer if God's will is the only will that shall be done? If I want something different in my life, why bother praying for it if God is just going to do whatever He wants anyway?
Why do we talk to anyone about anything?
God does not do anything with your life that you do not want Him to do. And when you know God, and know that He only wants the best for you, why would you not want that?
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RE: When God's Will Is Not Your Will - 10/8/2008 2:26:37 PM
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Lynn_J
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It means I'm not going to like it...but being sold out to God ....I'm going to submit anyway knowing who HE is and that HE is trust-worthy.
I'm not sure I understand your comment, "It means I'm not going to like it." Christians who love God and are totally sold out to him usually like to be in his service. No, not every task is pleasant, but many of them are. Knowing I'm right in the middle of his will, makes me happier than when I'm anywhere else.
Blessings,
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RE: When God's Will Is Not Your Will - 10/8/2008 2:28:28 PM
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While I agree with this premise, it raises for me a question that I've been facing. What about when I'm not sure of what God's will is? There's been times where I stepped out in faith to accomplish something that I believed to be God's will based on the idea that God wants to make my hopes and dreams come true. Specifically, I have a dream of becoming a truck driver. So I stepped out and took a step of faith by attending a CDL school. While I was able to complete the schooling despite all odds, no job at the time and unable to find a job while I went. So now I have the license, but because of my past before becoming a christian, I have been unable to get a job driving over the road. So did I really step out in faith, or was I only pursuing my own dreams. I've only been a christian for about 4 years, so how do I know for sure it was His will? To me, that was what I thought stepping out in faith was.
Now I face another choice. I've felt a longing to return to Indiana for several years so I could live close to other relatives like my dad, and his extended family. This would place me in close proximity to family members who are genuine believers, while here in Florida I have my mom, who claims to be a beleiver but does not walk the walk. I'm not really receiving any direction from God on whether I should stay here in Florida, or go home to Indiana. So I guess the question is, when God is silent how do I know what His will is. When He speaks to me, He speaks about submitting myself to Him in other areas like taking care of my body through exercise and diet, or overcoming weaknesses and trusting Him. He just doesn't address these major questions. Is the longing I feel to return to Indiana His way of telling me to go? Or is it my flesh directing me to get me out of His will for my life?
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RE: When God's Will Is Not Your Will - 10/8/2008 2:29:05 PM
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You do not have to submit to anything. You have the privilege of allowing God to bring you fulfillment, by being what you were created to be, or you can go your own way and be unfulfilled. The choice is always yours. That is the point of free will.
Great post!
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RE: When God's Will Is Not Your Will - 10/8/2008 2:29:37 PM
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You have the privilege of allowing God to bring you fulfillment, by being what you were created to be, or you can go your own way and be unfulfilled.
This is where the problem is. The latter option doesn't sound like anything desirable. The former option means we're in service to God without any will of our own and no garuntee of fulfillment. Why can't there be a third option... our own way, AND be fulfilled?
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RE: When God's Will Is Not Your Will - 10/8/2008 2:34:20 PM
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Now I face another choice. I've felt a longing to return to Indiana for several years so I could live close to other relatives like my dad, and his extended family. I'm not really receiving any direction from God on whether I should stay here in Florida, or go home to Indiana. So I guess the question is, when God is silent how do I know what His will is. When He speaks to me, He speaks about submitting myself to Him in other areas like taking care of my body through exercise and diet, or overcoming weaknesses and trusting Him. He just doesn't address these major questions. Is the longing I feel to return to Indiana His way of telling me to go? Or is it my flesh directing me to get me out of His will for my life?
There may be a reason God is silent right now. It could be that he does not have any further instructions for you at this time. It's like when I give my son a chore to do, I wait until he is finished with what I've asked him to do before I give him any further instruction. If I've asked him to rake the leaves in the yard, and he's only about halfway through, I won't go out there and ask him to go inside and clean up his room. I'll be silent until the time is right, when he's finished with what I had asked him first, and then I'll give him further direction.
Perhaps you are exactly where God wants you to be--for now. So, that may be the reason he has no further directions for you at this time. Just keep praying, and he'll let you know when it's time to change the situation and how to make that change. I'll stand with you in prayer that he will do that for you.
Blessings,
Lynn
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RE: When God's Will Is Not Your Will - 10/8/2008 2:39:15 PM
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You have the privilege of allowing God to bring you fulfillment, by being what you were created to be, or you can go your own way and be unfulfilled.
This is where the problem is. The latter option doesn't sound like anything desirable. The former option means we're in service to God without any will of our own and no garuntee of fulfillment. Why can't there be a third option... our own way, AND be fulfilled?
Because you are created as a dependent creature, there is no such thing as the independent self. That is the lie of Satan in the garden. You either choose to be dependent upon God through a relationship with Jesus Christ, or you choose dependence upon Satan. Those are the only two options available to man.
To be used for that which you were created is to be fulfilled. To seek fulfillment in any other, will only result in misery. Believe me, I have tried.
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