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RE: What Are Obama's Accomplishments? - 9/8/2008 1:42:43 PM
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huskarine
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Hey i ain't mocking his gift of gab...i am only stating to not be deceived by it...
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RE: What Are Obama's Accomplishments? - 9/8/2008 4:25:00 PM
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SovereignIsHe
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I see.
So at least we have made a distinction.
No longer have some said Obama has no experience whatsoever (a completely ridiculous claim, given his impressive list of accomplishments), but that his experience did not show executive leadership abilities or traditional leadership in general (being in charge of a group and making decisions).
I can agree that he does not have executive experience and that he does not have traditional leadership experience, but he has shown non-traditional leadership in other ways through intellegence (Harvard Law Review Editor - a position usually reserved in law school for the top student), community leadership (community organizer), educational/law/legislature/Senate experience.....Some might say he did not have traditional leadership in that he was not the one making decisions, but he has had communal leadership experience - making decisions along with others. But I can accept that he hasn't been adequately tested in this area of traditional leadership and that to me is quite frankly a concern.
Let us also not mock the man's speaking ability. For that is a gift from God. Would you mock God?
The only one who mocks God in regards to Mr. Obama's gift as a excellent speaker is Mr. Obama himself since he uses for personal gain not for the sake of Christ and His church...
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Proverbs 12:10 A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast: but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel.
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RE: What Are Obama's Accomplishments? - 9/8/2008 5:26:34 PM
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saved9201
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What difference does it make? Obama has no leadership accomplishments that you would accept. That's not good enough for you? We've had 5 pages so far of people going to great lengths providing what they believe are leadership qualitities and for each one you guys gleefully push the "wrong answer" buzzer, probably before you even read the whole post. You get a kick out of that, don't you?
You guys gave his accomplishments, i don't deny that he is an accomplished person. Those things are not leadership roles though.
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Well guess what? I don't want to play your silly game. What do you want me to do? Say that he has no leadership ability or accomplishments PERIOD, end of discussion?
I know the man has accomplishments but what accomplishments show that he is capable of leadership, THAT is my question.
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Just tell me how you want me to word it. How bout, The Messiah, B. Hussein O. The Wicked Unrighteous Ruler, non-truly Christian and MAN WITH ABSOLUTELY NOOOOOOOO LEADERSHIP ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN HIS LIFE WHATSOEVER, does not deserve to be president? Want me to sign a surrender, you win, statement? I'm willing to work with you dude (or dudette). This ain't a battle worth fighting until the death. Not every thread HAS to go on forever, you know. It's football season.
- Julius
Don't get grumpy with me, I asked a simple question. A simple answer would have sufficed. You guys keep throwing out the same accomplishments, while they are accomplishments they do not point to a leader.
Mr. JJP sir, I humbly apologize for coming off as grumpy. I was tired. I hearby affirm that Barrack Hussein Obama has absolutely no accomplishments that point to a leader.
- Julius
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RE: What Are Obama's Accomplishments? - 9/9/2008 2:11:04 AM
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huangshan
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The only one who mocks God in regards to Mr. Obama's gift as a excellent speaker is Mr. Obama himself since he uses for personal gain not for the sake of Christ and His church...
How do you have such astounding insight into the man's personal motivations? Are... are you Barack Obama?
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RE: What Are Obama's Accomplishments? - 9/9/2008 2:21:25 AM
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ljmac
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The only one who mocks God in regards to Mr. Obama's gift as a excellent speaker is Mr. Obama himself since he uses for personal gain not for the sake of Christ and His church...
How do you have such astounding insight into the man's personal motivations? Are... are you Barack Obama?
Obama has
- Been incredibly stingy toward charity according to his tax returns
- Left his brother to live in dire poverty while boasting that he is "my brother's keeper"
- Argued that unborn children have no right to life and that those who survive abortion attempts should be denied life saving medical care
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