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We Can Have Differening of Opinion, But... - 9/2/2008 10:04:23 PM
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gaylel1
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All of us need to practice 1 Peter 3:15, meaning yes, we can give answers and opinion, but do so in a way that is in gentleness and respect to one another.
In the past few threads, In my opinion, there is too much judging of people just because they have a differing of opinion. When people have a difference of opinion, they are branded as non-christian, for abortion, and the list goes on. You cannot judge people's walk with the Lord, because all of us has different levels, and just because people support a certian canadate, it does not mean that people are for abortion and other policies.
I just pray when we post, please don't assume the worse in everyone, because we all love the Lord and we are all brothers and sisters in the faith.
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RE: We Can Have Differening of Opinion, But... - 9/2/2008 10:09:09 PM
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Agreed.
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RE: We Can Have Differening of Opinion, But... - 9/2/2008 11:20:54 PM
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Jhud
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Actually gayle, I have been very disappointed with your posts lately, and how you have spoken about candidates you disagree with. Perhaps you might want to lead by example?
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RE: We Can Have Differening of Opinion, But... - 9/2/2008 11:43:47 PM
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If one's walk with Christ cannot be judged you must toss all the verses that speak of doing that very thing... Start with 1 Corinthians 5, Matthew 7, 2 Corinthians 11:13 and 2 Peter 2:1...
1 John 4:1 Dearly loved friends, don't always believe everything you hear just because someone says it is a message from God: test it first to see if it really is. For there are many false teachers around,
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RE: We Can Have Differening of Opinion, But... - 9/3/2008 12:04:53 AM
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blessedinnyc
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ORIGINAL: Jhud
Actually gayle, I have been very disappointed with your posts lately, and how you have spoken about candidates you disagree with. Perhaps you might want to lead by example?
You have an interesting point. I think there is a collective guilt on this issue. I'm sure we can find many examples of just about everyone (namely me) causing trouble.
One thing I would add, though, is that when we communicate via text, it's often easy to read people who disagree with us as being angry. On a Christian forum, this tends to be exacerbated by the fact that people are often 100% sure they have the truth and don't couch their statements.
It's interesting the reactions we have to those who couch and those who don't. Dubya, a conservative who disagrees with me about nearly everything, is someone who I respect- and a part of that may have to do with the fact that he is willing to couch his words. On the other hand, I am currently in a fierce debate with people who don't always soften their statements.
My humble suggestion to improve the level of discourse is:
-If someone who is a conservative (or liberal) makes a good point, admit it. Then go ahead and disagree with them. I see some conservatives do this more often than not, and that simple step makes it easier for me to hear what they have to say, without actually seeing it as that they've conceded anything. Us liberals could still learn a thing or two from Reagan. :)
-Switch sides every once in a while on an issue that sounds reasonable. It's an interesting way of stirring the discussion up a bit. I often see cow doing this.
-Don't take it personally! People who see these forums as an intellectual discussion probably get the most out of it. If you're trying to influence people, Dale Carnegie says its best to understand the other person's perspective and work with that. Meanwhile, it's almost always more fun when you approach politics with an intellectual bent. Not that that means casting off Christianity- it's just that if you're going to an amusement park, it's more fun to raise your hands in the air off the first big drop on that roller coaster than to be studying Psalm 37 throughout the ride. I think Jhud is a good example of taking an intellectual approach to discussions.
-Couch your words! Dubya is a great example on this, IMHO. As a conservative, he disagrees with me about nearly everything, but for some odd reason, I still see his posts as very thoughtful. I think it has to do with the couching parts.
Not getting angry, being rude, or doing other stuff is often difficult on an online forum, so sometimes, it's important for us to reduce the temptation for others (1 Cor. 10:32). This is something I am trying to work on, although I have a long way to go (James 3:2).
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RE: We Can Have Differening of Opinion, But... - 9/3/2008 12:21:28 AM
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SovereignIsHe
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For the most part God takes a backseat in this part of the forum. Secular reasoning and man's will rules the roost here and many times when God is mentioned it's in regards to His understanding that man is going to have to relax his convictions to do his civic duty. Personally I don't get upset and or angry since I remind myself from time to time that first and foremost this forum exists for the sake of making a profit, which BTW is perfectly ok...
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RE: We Can Have Differening of Opinion, But... - 9/3/2008 1:26:31 AM
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Different opinions is what makes us human. One of the only things we have in common on this board is our faith in God. That above everything is the most important.
But God gave each of us a mind and we are fully able to use it and express those opinions.
If anyone thinks that they will always see opinions to their own then they have a huge dissapointment coming to them. Especially online.
People need to just take it how it comes and move on.
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RE: We Can Have Differening of Opinion, But... - 9/3/2008 9:46:23 AM
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ORIGINAL: blessedinnyc
You have an interesting point. I think there is a collective guilt on this issue. I'm sure we can find many examples of just about everyone (namely me) causing trouble.
One thing I would add, though, is that when we communicate via text, it's often easy to read people who disagree with us as being angry. On a Christian forum, this tends to be exacerbated by the fact that people are often 100% sure they have the truth and don't couch their statements.
It's interesting the reactions we have to those who couch and those who don't. Dubya, a conservative who disagrees with me about nearly everything, is someone who I respect- and a part of that may have to do with the fact that he is willing to couch his words. On the other hand, I am currently in a fierce debate with people who don't always soften their statements.
My humble suggestion to improve the level of discourse is:
-If someone who is a conservative (or liberal) makes a good point, admit it. Then go ahead and disagree with them. I see some conservatives do this more often than not, and that simple step makes it easier for me to hear what they have to say, without actually seeing it as that they've conceded anything. Us liberals could still learn a thing or two from Reagan. :)
-Switch sides every once in a while on an issue that sounds reasonable. It's an interesting way of stirring the discussion up a bit. I often see cow doing this.
-Don't take it personally! People who see these forums as an intellectual discussion probably get the most out of it. If you're trying to influence people, Dale Carnegie says its best to understand the other person's perspective and work with that. Meanwhile, it's almost always more fun when you approach politics with an intellectual bent. Not that that means casting off Christianity- it's just that if you're going to an amusement park, it's more fun to raise your hands in the air off the first big drop on that roller coaster than to be studying Psalm 37 throughout the ride. I think Jhud is a good example of taking an intellectual approach to discussions.
-Couch your words! Dubya is a great example on this, IMHO. As a conservative, he disagrees with me about nearly everything, but for some odd reason, I still see his posts as very thoughtful. I think it has to do with the couching parts.
Not getting angry, being rude, or doing other stuff is often difficult on an online forum, so sometimes, it's important for us to reduce the temptation for others (1 Cor. 10:32). This is something I am trying to work on, although I have a long way to go (James 3:2).
I agree with you blessed! Great post! 
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RE: We Can Have Differening of Opinion, But... - 9/3/2008 11:07:38 AM
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Actually gayle, I have been very disappointed with your posts lately, and how you have spoken about candidates you disagree with. Perhaps you might want to lead by example?
Ouch.
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RE: We Can Have Differening of Opinion, But... - 9/3/2008 12:23:10 PM
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Actually gayle, I have been very disappointed with your posts lately, and how you have spoken about candidates you disagree with. Perhaps you might want to lead by example?
Ouch.
Hey now mr innocent, I doubt you would have said some of the things you posted on here in the presense of McCain or Mrs. Palin!
That's how I try to temper my statements by asking "would I say this in thier presence?". Works most of the time.
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RE: We Can Have Differening of Opinion, But... - 9/3/2008 2:21:28 PM
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ORIGINAL: cow451
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ORIGINAL: Jhud
Actually gayle, I have been very disappointed with your posts lately, and how you have spoken about candidates you disagree with. Perhaps you might want to lead by example?
Ouch.
Hey now mr innocent, I doubt you would have said some of the things you posted on here in the presense of McCain or Mrs. Palin!
That's how I try to temper my statements by asking "would I say this in thier presence?". Works most of the time.
Well, we should all follow your stellar example.
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RE: We Can Have Differening of Opinion, But... - 9/3/2008 5:05:46 PM
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ORIGINAL: letusreason
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ORIGINAL: cow451
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ORIGINAL: Jhud
Actually gayle, I have been very disappointed with your posts lately, and how you have spoken about candidates you disagree with. Perhaps you might want to lead by example?
Ouch.
Hey now mr innocent, I doubt you would have said some of the things you posted on here in the presense of McCain or Mrs. Palin!
That's how I try to temper my statements by asking "would I say this in thier presence?". Works most of the time.
Well, we should all follow your stellar example.
Please explain.
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RE: We Can Have Differening of Opinion, But... - 9/4/2008 12:42:53 PM
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Jhud
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I was referring to Jack's outrageous behavior (you will note I was replying to his post).
You, on the other hand, are the epitomy of style and grace and the ideal to which we should all aspire as posters.
I'm still trying to figure out what I would have said that would offend McCain and Palin!?
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RE: We Can Have Differening of Opinion, But... - 9/4/2008 12:48:32 PM
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cow451
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I was referring to Jack's outrageous behavior (you will note I was replying to his post).
You, on the other hand, are the epitomy of style and grace and the ideal to which we should all aspire as posters.
I'm still trying to figure out what I would have said that would offend McCain and Palin!?
Whatever it was, I'm sure that John and Sarah will accept your apology.
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RE: We Can Have Differening of Opinion, But... - 9/4/2008 12:50:59 PM
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Jhud
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Whatever it was, I'm sure that John and Sarah will accept your apology.
I just don't want to be on the wrong end of the moose gun.
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RE: We Can Have Differening of Opinion, But... - 9/4/2008 1:07:42 PM
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That which started out as a "let's try to temper our words" type thread turns into finger pointing. Incredible!
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RE: We Can Have Differening of Opinion, But... - 9/4/2008 1:13:13 PM
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Jhud
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Ok, i see it's ok to demean with a sexist remark if you are replying, just don't do it outright check!
Chill jack, its between me and the Giants band wagon fan and we have a difference of opinion about what appropriate posts are
But you are discussing my posts - presumambly I have some insight there?
< Message edited by Jhud -- 9/4/2008 1:24:25 PM >
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RE: We Can Have Differening of Opinion, But... - 9/4/2008 1:39:19 PM
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No Jack, post number 11 was not intended for you , but the last poster in the quote box.Sorry for the misunderstanding
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