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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 2:50:07 AM   
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you VERY young women


I am 36 years old..I don't think I am that young.
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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 2:52:08 AM   
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I'm not slamming you for anything, so CALM DOWN.

MAYBE....I am simply saying that YOU HAVE NOT GIVEN BIRTH 6 TIMES....perhaps??

I am sure you are the very best babysitter and nanny in the universe.

But you are not a parent.

I am sorry if this truth insults you, however, it is still quite the truth.

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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 2:53:38 AM   
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I've read the whole thread. And it kinda ticked me off regarding MOST of the replies.

No matter what, God is in control of conception. Do you disagree here?????

After having 6 kids myself and listening to you VERY young women discuss how they use their BC basically makes me concerned.

So ALL of you expect to have babies EXACTY when you plan/desire it?
Man....I hate it for you.

But thats not usually the way real life works.


LOL. No. My first son was "unplanned". Since we were on public assistance during my pregnancy and while he was first born, we wouldn't have actually planned on having another child while we couldn't even provide for the first. I'd say that was a good dose of real life.

I'm not sure that I agree God is always in control of conception because of free will. Isn't it just as possible for man to step outside of God's perfect will and conceive a child when they shouldn't? But that's something I'm unsure of.

And what makes you think we are all "very young"? (Although I don't mind being called that. )
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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 2:54:47 AM   
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One....

You are still young enough to have a baby. Thats wonderful.

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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 2:56:24 AM   
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Are you sasying that some conceptions are outside of His will?

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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 3:03:29 AM   
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MAYBE....I am simply saying that YOU HAVE NOT GIVEN BIRTH 6 TIMES....perhaps??



No, I have not given birth 6 times, but that does not make me any less capable of thinking through an issue, or being just as able to join in a discussion....after all, if only parents could discuss certain things, then I'm sure our wonderful admin(and I don't mean that sarcastically, I mean it sincerely) wouldn't allow non parents in the parenting folder..and thankfully, most of the time, I feel quite welcome in the parenting folder, and the marriage folder, and the home school folder, and the private and public school support folder. Many of the parents in all those folders have welcomed me with open arms, and always been very respectful of my thoughts, and I in turn respect their experience...many a mom has appreciated a lesson idea I had in homeschooling..or a question I had, or a thread I started....

In Christ we are all one....whether male or female, slave or free, single or married, childless or the mother of 20...

Anna and Elizabeth were two women in Scripture who were considered very Godly, and were barren for many years.........

The # of children one has isn't the measure of one's Godliness.
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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 3:06:19 AM   
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Are you sasying that some conceptions are outside of His will?


Maybe, I don't know. But since that's off topic I don't really want to go there.

Just because someone can give birth 6 times does not mean they are a good parent or a wise person. Not saying that you aren't. I wouldn't know that because I don't know you. But you are trying to say that anyone who hasn't given birth as many times as you have can't know as much about parenting as you. That's just not true. Giving birth doesn't equal having wisdom, kwim? Experience doesn't always equal wisdom and vice versa. But this is getting a little off topic as well.....

The topic is when is a family too big. My opinion is that it is too big when the parents can no longer provide (physically, emotionally, spiritually and financially).
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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 3:09:08 AM   
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MAYBE....I am simply saying that YOU HAVE NOT GIVEN BIRTH 6 TIMES....perhaps??



No, I have not given birth 6 times, but that does not make me any less capable of thinking through an issue, or being just as able to join in a discussion....after all, if only parents could discuss certain things, then I'm sure our wonderful admin(and I don't mean that sarcastically, I mean it sincerely) wouldn't allow non parents in the parenting folder..and thankfully, most of the time, I feel quite welcome in the parenting folder, and the marriage folder, and the home school folder, and the private and public school support folder. Many of the parents in all those folders have welcomed me with open arms, and always been very respectful of my thoughts, and I in turn respect their experience...many a mom has appreciated a lesson idea I had in homeschooling..or a question I had, or a thread I started....

In Christ we are all one....whether male or female, slave or free, single or married, childless or the mother of 20...

Anna and Elizabeth were two women in Scripture who were considered very Godly, and were barren for many years.........

The # of children one has isn't the measure of one's Godliness.


Jewels, I'm thinking you just said what I was trying to say in a much better way. Excellent post!
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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 3:13:50 AM   
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I am sure you are the very best babysitter and nanny in the universe.



No, I had my good points and bad, my mistakes and failures, and successes just like anyone...I'm sure many a nanny/babysitter outshines me, and I'm sure many are worse than me..especially the psycho/murderer ones...
but regardless of how excellent a nanny/babysitter/preschool teacher I was or was not........

I have still had lots of experience with kids...
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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 3:25:13 AM   
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And I hate to tell you, experience does equal wisdom. In more ways than you want to know.
Wisdom only comes to us from experience in life. If any lessons are learned, thus is wisdom.

How old are you? 30 or 20 something...??

You will eventually find at 40-something or close to that,
that wisdom somehow crept in. And that you listen more to people that have had more and deeper experiences than yourself. That would be OLDER people....like me maybe....

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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 3:27:23 AM   
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One;

You are a very strong woman prepared to face any challenge.

I truly respect you in this!

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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 3:27:59 AM   
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That would be OLDER people....like me maybe....


Or how about my parents? They are in their 50's and exude wisdom, and don't fly off the handle in public forums to boot.

But oh wait. They only had one child, so they can't possibly know anything about parenting, right?

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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 3:29:23 AM   
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It relates to the OP because it is regarding the size of a family and the very deep convictions surrounding the many opinions of such.

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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 3:29:31 AM   
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I am 36, which I stated earlier.
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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 3:30:28 AM   
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And I hate to tell you, experience does equal wisdom. In more ways than you want to know.
Wisdom only comes to us from experience in life. If any lessons are learned, thus is wisdom.

How old are you? 30 or 20 something...??

You will eventually find at 40-something or close to that,
that wisdom somehow crept in. And that you listen more to people that have had more and deeper experiences than yourself. That would be OLDER people....like me maybe....


Not sure who you are speaking to here...
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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 3:32:28 AM   
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Does anyone know? LOL

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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 3:35:07 AM   
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And that you listen more to people that have had more and deeper experiences than yourself. That would be OLDER people....like me maybe....


I have looked up and been mentored by many older than myself...I also have learned from and respected people like Maggie (a poster on this board who is much younger than me but has 3 children).....however, I don't look up to someone just because they are older...especially if they have chosen to disrespect me just because I may not have kids, I look up to people with Godly character, regardless of age, although yes, I do behave respectfully to the elderly..my parents taught me that well...We can all learn from each other...

there is a kid on these boards who is only in his late teens/early twenties..and yet he has a post in the marriage folder regarding the sanctity of marriage and the committment that marriage is that brought me to tears...young and old, male and female, childless and the parents of many...we can all learn from one another.
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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 3:37:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Memrie88

And I hate to tell you, experience does equal wisdom. In more ways than you want to know.
Wisdom only comes to us from experience in life. If any lessons are learned, thus is wisdom.

How old are you? 30 or 20 something...??

You will eventually find at 40-something or close to that,
that wisdom somehow crept in. And that you listen more to people that have had more and deeper experiences than yourself. That would be OLDER people....like me maybe....


Not sure who you are speaking to here...


I think she was asking me.
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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 3:38:27 AM  1 votes
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Age and experience does not a wise person make, sorry to say. It makes them aged and experienced, but it can definitely stop there. I can tell you of many people who are double or triple my age with more experience than you'd want, but no wiser than a preteen.

Wisdom comes from the Lord. Not the number of days you're on the planet.

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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 3:44:15 AM   
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Wisdom comes from the Lord. Not the number of days you're on the planet.


Thank you spitzu...you said what I've been trying to say in one succint sentence.....

and to get back to the op.....before we all get in trouble for getting so far off topic..

Wisdom should definitely be used in any and all decisions regarding parenting...including the size of a family...and if the choice is for the family to be big...the parents still need to use wisdom...wisdom in how to provide for their children, wisdom in how to make sure the children get individual attention, wisdom in nurturing in the Lord....etc...whether a family is large or small, parents still need the wisdom from above to raise their family..

and with that, I think I will gracefully bow out of this thread for a while..
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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 3:48:23 AM   
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Does anyone know? LOL


LOL!
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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 3:52:47 AM   
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Wisdom comes from the Lord. Not the number of days you're on the planet.


Thank you spitzu...you said what I've been trying to say in one succint sentence.....

and to get back to the op.....before we all get in trouble for getting so far off topic..

Wisdom should definitely be used in any and all decisions regarding parenting...including the size of a family...and if the choice is for the family to be big...the parents still need to use wisdom...wisdom in how to provide for their children, wisdom in how to make sure the children get individual attention, wisdom in nurturing in the Lord....etc...whether a family is large or small, parents still need the wisdom from above to raise their family..

and with that, I think I will gracefully bow out of this thread for a while..


to both Spitzu and Jewels! I heartily agree and will also be taking a break from this thread as it's getting very late.
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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 3:55:03 AM   
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Spitzu;

Do you have a Bible scripture to your statement? The one "Age and experience does not a wise person make" ???

I'd really like to see that.

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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 3:56:09 AM   
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G'nite His...

Have a peaceful night!

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RE: When is a family too big. - 9/9/2008 3:56:22 AM   
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I have a tremendous amount of respect, understanding, and appreciation for my parents and grandparents, thanks.

I'm personally laughing at the strange direction that this thread has taken.

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