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dianetavegia -> 'Fireproof" (8/26/2008 12:29:55 PM)

Created by the same people as 'Facing the Giants', I cannot WAIT to see Fireproof. Check it out........

FIREPROOF: Opening September 26!
At work, inside burning buildings, Capt. Caleb Holt lives by the old firefighter's adage: Never leave your partner behind. At home, in the cooling embers of his marriage, he lives by his own rules. Is it too late to fireproof his marriage? His job is to rescue others. Now Caleb Holt is about to face his toughest job ever ... rescuing his wife's heart.

On September 26, the next movie from Sherwood Pictures and Provident Films arrives in theaters across the nation: FIREPROOF. This action-packed love story has pre-release audiences laughing, crying, and on the edges of their seats as they are drawn into the world of a firefighter, his wife ... and a marriage worth rescuing.


FIREPROOF: What People Are Saying
"On top of a powerful message and the potential to change lives and marriages, this is one great movie!"
Bubba Cathy, Senior Vice President, Chick-fil-A

"FIREPROOF is going to do much more than entertain and stir hearts when it comes to movie theaters. This is a movie that will impact couples in a profound way for decades to come."
Dennis Rainey, President, FamilyLife

"FIREPROOF is a beautiful picture of how God can use one partner to completely turn a seemingly hopeless marriage around. What an encouragement!"
Rebekah Land, Ph.D., Marriage and Family Therapist

http://www.fireproofthemovie.com/



SallyGee -> RE: 'Fireproof" (8/26/2008 2:06:02 PM)

Sounds great! Some churches are starting to take names to make reservations to hold spots
in the theaters or even reserving the theatre. Need to check your area to see where it will be shown.

sally



uncabeeil -> RE: 'Fireproof" (8/27/2008 10:21:19 AM)

Kirk Cameron again? Isn't there anybody else willing to star in a Christian movie besides a baby-faced leftover from a b-grade sitcom?



ClintonPI -> RE: 'Fireproof" (8/27/2008 8:38:21 PM)

I think you'll find Kirk not looking so baby-faced in this film. It looks as if he's bulked-up for the role.

The comercials look great and the word is that it's a terrific film. Looking forward to seeing this one.



tafkam -> RE: 'Fireproof" (8/27/2008 11:17:10 PM)

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The comercials look great and the word is that it's a terrific film. Looking forward to seeing this one.


Unfortunately, Sherwood Pictures hasn't exactly raised the bar very high with their previous efforts, and most of the "word" I've seen on this film tends to come from sources that wouldn't be very likely to criticize it too heavily...



davidshq -> RE: 'Fireproof" (8/27/2008 11:24:34 PM)

While I'm not a "fan" of Sherwood Pictures/Kirk Cameron, I do think this film looks like its going to be decent. :)
Dave.



alias007 -> RE: 'Fireproof" (8/27/2008 11:26:42 PM)

A lot of people enjoyed Facing the Giants, myself included.
I wasn't aware of this new film, but now that I've heard about it, I'll be sure to check it out.
Thanks for the info[:)]



uncabeeil -> RE: 'Fireproof" (8/28/2008 2:50:00 PM)

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I think you'll find Kirk not looking so baby-faced in this film
In the trailer that was linked to he looked as if he just stepped off the set of Growing Pains. Bulked up to what? 145 lbs? [;)]



dianetavegia -> RE: 'Fireproof" (8/28/2008 3:06:50 PM)

I think people used in 'Christian films' SHOULD be Christians and living like Christians. That's going to limit the number of actors available.

Remember the nativity movie that used a 14 or 15 year old girl who announced she was pregnant by her adult boyfriend not long after the movie was out in theatres?

Many of the old '8 is Enough' cast have starred in Christian films. We love Gerbert, The Singing Place, Bibleman and other kid videos that have Dick Patton, Grant Goodeve and others.



barbhuff -> RE: 'Fireproof" (8/28/2008 4:23:39 PM)

The effects and all look good in the trailer at least. I think it might not be too bad.



doinkdom -> RE: 'Fireproof" (8/28/2008 4:46:40 PM)

We went to see the movie at a special screening...

and if we (to include myself[;)]) as Christians would get off our artsy high-horse and look beyond what "we" don't like...this movie will change marriages. Yes, I've heard it all and probably said it all when it comes to Christian productions... but IMO, this movie is worth moving beyond that.

If your marriage is on auto-pilot or in deep need of therapy - GO SEE IT! No excuses.

Seriously. There was a couple of scenes that were hard to watch cause they were "real" for many couples. There was also a time where I saw myself and felt my heart trying to justify my own garbage, but seeing it before me...I knew I couldn't. Very convicting.

Get over the production-hype or lack thereof, and hear the message.



Jhud -> RE: 'Fireproof" (8/28/2008 6:42:41 PM)

I hope the movie is as good as the preview.



henny -> RE: 'Fireproof" (8/28/2008 7:11:19 PM)

It looks like a made for Lifetime movie.

Only with Jesus.



Jhud -> RE: 'Fireproof" (8/28/2008 8:06:51 PM)

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It looks like a made for Lifetime movie.

Only with Jesus.


You are nothing if not cynical.



uncabeeil -> RE: 'Fireproof" (8/29/2008 8:24:05 AM)

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Get over the production-hype or lack thereof, and hear the message.
While I see your point, it's this mentality that keeps Christian films firmly in the c-movie/direct-to-dvd class. I still don't see shy we can't get both high quality and a message.



tafkam -> RE: 'Fireproof" (8/29/2008 10:17:43 AM)

Did you check out in the original post "What People Are Saying".....these are comments from folks who would be predisposed to like the movie.

What about a real critic? From a major newspaper or TV station? What would their impressions be?

It is so easy for us to impress ourselves among ourselves, but it's when we try to take it out in the the very world we are trying to reach when we discover if our efforts are making an impact...



uncabeeil -> RE: 'Fireproof" (8/29/2008 10:20:27 AM)

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Did you check out in the original post "What People Are Saying".....these are comments from folks who would be predisposed to like the movie.
I have the same problem with books. There are pages of gushing reviews, all by "author of ____", which just happens to be published by the same house.



doinkdom -> RE: 'Fireproof" (8/29/2008 3:34:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: uncabeeil
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Get over the production-hype or lack thereof, and hear the message.
While I see your point, it's this mentality that keeps Christian films firmly in the c-movie/direct-to-dvd class. I still don't see shy we can't get both high quality and a message.

I think it's because of the lack of graphic violence and sexual innuendo that prevent the general public from attending, therefore, the money isn't there and even those actors professing Christ want their paycheck.



iluvatar -> RE: 'Fireproof" (8/29/2008 9:14:56 PM)

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ORIGINAL: doinkdom
I think it's because of the lack of graphic violence and sexual innuendo that prevent the general public from attending, therefore, the money isn't there and even those actors professing Christ want their paycheck.


Then explain the success of Pixar.

-Dan.



tafkam -> RE: 'Fireproof" (8/30/2008 10:28:11 AM)

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I think it's because of the lack of graphic violence and sexual innuendo that prevent the general public from attending,


I'll second the Pixar challenge.

And while I can see why sexual innuendo would be out of place in a Christian movie, what is so off the table about violence? THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST was an extremely violent movie (and rightfully so), and there are certain case where violence would be an integral part of the story. Say you wanted to make a Christian film about a Christian in a war zone....I can guarantee you had better depict war as it actually is or your film will be laughed off the screen. Or maybe you're telling a story about a Christian police officer, it would only be honest storytelling to depict the type of violence he would naturally encounter daily.



redeemedsaint -> RE: 'Fireproof" (8/30/2008 10:42:30 AM)

This does look good. At least it will be a different cast and not the same old people playing differnet roles.



doinkdom -> RE: 'Fireproof" (8/31/2008 12:25:49 PM)

It's a marriage movie and while the male lead has a serious problem with porn, we as the audience do not have to get the graphic details of "what" he is viewing...the point is made with gratuity.

There are no unnecessary scenes that many people crave.

But you know what? If your marriage is in trouble and you need some hope...then see it.

Armchair critics are not helpful, imo when marriages are dying out there and this film gives a very realistic portrait of one that ends with hope. It is a visual tool for many couples to start their reconciliation.

And come on...Pixar? This isn't family entertainment bent on making a profit. Maybe that's the problem.



dianetavegia -> RE: 'Fireproof" (8/31/2008 3:51:23 PM)

When Facing the Giants first came out for sale, I bought the movie. We set up a week to show it to our youth group and told them they could invite all their friends. We have a huge youth room below our old sanctuary. That night, we had to find chairs from all over the church to hold the kids.

During the movie, the kids cried. The kids cheered. The kids went to adults afterwards and admitted they needed prayer for salvation, the way they talked to their parents, being quitters, etc. God used Facing the Giants, perfect or not.

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ORIGINAL: tafkam

Did you check out in the original post "What People Are Saying".....these are comments from folks who would be predisposed to like the movie.

What about a real critic? From a major newspaper or TV station? What would their impressions be?

It is so easy for us to impress ourselves among ourselves, but it's when we try to take it out in the the very world we are trying to reach when we discover if our efforts are making an impact...

I don't look to 'real criticis' for movie reviews but ask people of 'like mind'. Just because some man paid to review movies likes something, does not mean it will appeal to me as a Christian, a wife of 38 years, a mother, a grandmother, etc. A better bet would be for me to ask someone who is of the same mind as me if this is something I would enjoy.



tafkam -> RE: 'Fireproof" (8/31/2008 4:26:00 PM)

As I said, many times we as Christians accept mediocrity because it is done by somebody of our faith. We think, "well, their heart was in the right place so we'll give it a pass.." Not me.

FTG came out at about the same time as two other football themed films; since I'm not into sports, none of them held any appeal for me, but my friends who did see them all agreed that FTG was a wannabe player at best. (I've seen most of FTG, enough to know that I couldn't stomach it for a whole viewing).

I for one would like to see Christians make art that would stand up and get noticed by the lost world we are trying to reach. PASSION OF THE CHRIST, the NARNIA films, these demonstrate that it can be done.

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And come on...Pixar? This isn't family entertainment bent on making a profit. Maybe that's the problem.


Are you kidding? You're telling me that FINDING NEMO or MONSTERS INC isn't family entertainment?



iluvatar -> RE: 'Fireproof" (8/31/2008 5:19:31 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tafkam

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And come on...Pixar? This isn't family entertainment bent on making a profit. Maybe that's the problem.


Are you kidding? You're telling me that FINDING NEMO or MONSTERS INC isn't family entertainment?


I think doinkdom's emphasis was on the films being bent on making a profit, not on their family-friendliness.

And doinkdom - you speculated that the general public won't be attending this movie because it lacks graphic violence and sexual innuendo. I gave Pixar as an example of a wildly successful movie/animation studio that makes nothing but clean family movies to show that it's not violence and innuendo the public craves (or at least most of the public). It's good stories with good writing and good acting. IIRC, G-rated movies generally tend to make more money than R-rated movies.

I'm not arguing that the message of Fireproof doesn't need to be told; I'm sure it does. Maybe this movie is a good vehicle for that. But I doubt it will appeal to a wider audience because the writing and acting are so poor. If you're already open and receptive to the message, then it'll probably speak to you. But if you're turned off by poor writing and a shallow story, it'll probably be a distraction.

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A better bet would be for me to ask someone who is of the same mind as me if this is something I would enjoy.


I think we're talking to two different issues. I enjoy watching Steven Seagal movies and pretty much anything that Sci-Fi shows on Saturday afternoons - but I'm not going to come here and argue that those are "good" movies. They're poorly acted, poorly directed, poorly written, and in many cases, poorly conceived - they're just plain lousy movies. But they're stupid and fun.

If all you want out of a movie is a good time, then that's not what tafkam and I are talking about. We're talking about a deeper critique of the art and skill that went into making the movie. If this were food, there's nothing wrong with a big thick greasy burger now and then, but don't mistake it for fine french cuisine.

-Dan.



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