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Dubya -> The real "Do nothing" Congress (8/19/2008 12:59:47 PM)

LINK.

I seem to recall, when the Republicans controlled Congress that they were a "do nothing" Congress.

Well I guess the Democrats have taught us the real meaning of "Do nothing".[8|]



huskarine -> RE: The real "Do nothing" Congress (8/19/2008 1:12:27 PM)

yeah...from what i have read, they really like to consider vacations and filibusters to deny current legislation...

it disgusts me...

but it's ok...if elected, they won't get anything done within the first 3 years...



rlj -> RE: The real "Do nothing" Congress (8/19/2008 1:13:47 PM)

Link doesn't work, but a do nothing Congress is hardly news.



Dubya -> RE: The real "Do nothing" Congress (8/19/2008 1:21:06 PM)

Sorry about the link. Try this one.

Do nothing Congress

Maybe a do nothing Congress is not news unless the party in control now made that complaint just a little over 2 years ago about the previous Congress controlled by the other party.

Are you suggesting that it is nothing new that the Democrats are even better at doing nothing than the Republicans?



stamper_ben -> RE: The real "Do nothing" Congress (8/19/2008 1:25:54 PM)

I actually prefer that they do as little as possible no matter which side of the aisle is in charge.

Less damage to the country that way.



huskarine -> RE: The real "Do nothing" Congress (8/19/2008 1:35:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: stamper_ben

I actually prefer that they do as little as possible no matter which side of the aisle is in charge.

Less damage to the country that way.


well, then the question remains then, are there changes that need to be made that require legislation???

(personally, i am for smaller government, and i think legislation should be as local as it can be....my mayor should matter more to me than el presidente)...



HighPlainsDrifter -> RE: The real "Do nothing" Congress (8/19/2008 4:04:59 PM)

All things considered, I'd prefer a do-nothing Congress above any other type.



cow451 -> RE: The real "Do nothing" Congress (8/19/2008 5:01:38 PM)

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ORIGINAL: stamper_ben

I actually prefer that they do as little as possible no matter which side of the aisle is in charge.

Less damage to the country that way.


Tell it, brother ben.



TaoPoohBear -> RE: The real "Do nothing" Congress (8/19/2008 8:01:30 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Dubya

Sorry about the link. Try this one.

Do nothing Congress

Maybe a do nothing Congress is not news unless the party in control now made that complaint just a little over 2 years ago about the previous Congress controlled by the other party.

Are you suggesting that it is nothing new that the Democrats are even better at doing nothing than the Republicans?


I'm not sure I'd call a 49/49 (+ 2 Indies) a Democratic Senate.

With 236 Democratic members in the House, that is a majority.



colliefan -> RE: The real "Do nothing" Congress (8/19/2008 8:26:07 PM)

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I'm not sure I'd call a 49/49 (+ 2 Indies) a Democratic Senate


The two independants caucus with the dems



rlj -> RE: The real "Do nothing" Congress (8/19/2008 11:25:57 PM)

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I actually prefer that they do as little as possible no matter which side of the aisle is in charge.

Less damage to the country that way.


Preach on that Ben! I agree wholeheartedly. I still fondly remember those days in the '90s when the government shut down from lack of funds as a time when they could screw up so little. Now they simply refuse to pass laws which is almost as good.



TaoPoohBear -> RE: The real "Do nothing" Congress (8/20/2008 9:45:19 AM)

I did want to add a bit about one of the "Indie" members of the Senate -

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Following his 2006 election, Lieberman made a deal with the Democratic leadership that allowed him to keep his seniority and become chairman of the Governmental Affairs Committee. He agreed to vote with the Democrats on all procedural matters unless he asked permission of Majority Whip Richard Durbin (a request that is almost never made or granted) in return for the committee assignments that would have been available to him had he remained a Democrat. He is free to vote as he pleases on policy matters. The 49-51 Democratic majority in the senate is in Joe Lieberman's hands. Although he is Independent, he is counted as a Democrat. Were he to switch sides, the Senate majority would be 50-50, or 49-50, erasing the Democrats' majority.
When campaigning for re-election to the Senate in July 2006, Lieberman stated "I want Democrats to be back in the majority in Washington and elect a Democratic president in 2008." Although Lieberman remained a member of Democratic Senate Majority, he ultimately endorsed Republican Senator John McCain for President in 2008.

Lieberman has since indicated that he is even willing to speak at the 2008 Republican National Convention on behalf of his friend McCain. Lieberman has been mentioned as a possible Vice Presidential nominee on a John McCain ticket.

Joe Lieberman



Rockwall -> RE: The real "Do nothing" Congress (8/20/2008 11:32:53 AM)

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ORIGINAL: stamper_ben

I actually prefer that they do as little as possible no matter which side of the aisle is in charge.

Less damage to the country that way.


Some of us have a problem with taxation without representation. While some of them can make laws that are detrimental to our society and then take weeks-long vacations, some of us are struggling to pay the bills.

Rather than trying to "save the world" they should try to save America.



stamper_ben -> RE: The real "Do nothing" Congress (8/20/2008 12:05:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Rockwall

quote:

ORIGINAL: stamper_ben

I actually prefer that they do as little as possible no matter which side of the aisle is in charge.

Less damage to the country that way.


Some of us have a problem with taxation without representation. While some of them can make laws that are detrimental to our society and then take weeks-long vacations, some of us are struggling to pay the bills.

Rather than trying to "save the world" they should try to save America.

Answer:

Do away with the taxes then!



Rockwall -> RE: The real "Do nothing" Congress (8/20/2008 3:57:49 PM)

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stamper_ben

Do away with the taxes then!


Whoah, now wait a minute. How can w promise socialized medicine and give perpetual welfare to our voters if we do that? Well we could increase the taxes of the rich and re-define "rich" as those making $125,000 or more.



cog41 -> RE: The real "Do nothing" Congress (8/20/2008 9:25:27 PM)

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I actually prefer that they do as little as possible no matter which side of the aisle is in charge.

Less damage to the country that way.




Agreed.

Even with them in office we have taxation without representation. So let's keep the pork bellies quiet.



rlj -> RE: The real "Do nothing" Congress (8/20/2008 11:22:33 PM)

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Whoah, now wait a minute. How can w promise socialized medicine and give perpetual welfare to our voters if we do that? Well we could increase the taxes of the rich and re-define "rich" as those making $125,000 or more.


The administration gives people who pay <$30 a year in taxes over 3k a year in income tax refunds so why not?



huskarine -> RE: The real "Do nothing" Congress (8/21/2008 7:35:20 AM)

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ORIGINAL: rlj

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Whoah, now wait a minute. How can w promise socialized medicine and give perpetual welfare to our voters if we do that? Well we could increase the taxes of the rich and re-define "rich" as those making $125,000 or more.


The administration gives people who pay <$30 a year in taxes over 3k a year in income tax refunds so why not?


because in principle, the government should tax everybody at the same percent. that would be fair. anything else is not.

but of course, this is a capitalist society, so if we want a free market, with as minimal control as can be, then we have to keep the government out of the equation as much as possible.



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