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fabioaraujo -> Is Putin the Antichrist? (8/16/2008 7:15:17 PM)

I'm writing a book about this possibility.

Meanwhile, I invite you to check the following article I wrote

http://weblog. liberatormagazin e.com/2008/ 05/1926-barack- obama-prophecy. html

In the book "Selected Prophecies and Prophets", I included prophecies relating Putin to the Antichrist in two chapters. One of them (left out to be included in my next book) mentions the "evil man who will come in the crossing of the millennium".

Please feel free to write me if you think you have any information that might help me writing about this subject.

Fabio Araujo
therebox@yahoo. com
Historian, Translator, Writer
www.prophezeiung. net




bob97 -> RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? (8/16/2008 8:12:42 PM)

Putin is an excellent fit. He has the right descendants, which is from the line of Goths who were a Germanic people and we would expect Gog to come from a Germanic line of Magog.

The nations that Putin deals with also fit very well with the identity of Meshech and Tubal which were located in the areas of the old USSR.

Putin has the military might and has influence with most of the Muslin countries.

If Putin is successful in reestablishing the old USSR and it looks like he very well might, he would be in an excellent position to fit the criteria of the Antichrist.

Bob




eschatologist -> RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? (8/16/2008 10:36:27 PM)

I don't believe he is the antichrist. But I do believe the antichrist will be the person who takes over after Pution is gone.




colliefan -> RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? (8/17/2008 9:56:35 PM)

As I understand it the Anti-Christ will be an individual of great wisdom, communicating ability, looks, charm, ...

don't think Putin meets these criteria




cow451 -> RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? (8/18/2008 12:28:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: bob97

Putin is an excellent fit. He has the right descendants, which is from the line of Goths who were a Germanic people and we would expect Gog to come from a Germanic line of Magog.

The nations that Putin deals with also fit very well with the identity of Meshech and Tubal which were located in the areas of the old USSR.

Putin has the military might and has influence with most of the Muslin countries.

If Putin is successful in reestablishing the old USSR and it looks like he very well might, he would be in an excellent position to fit the criteria of the Antichrist.

Bob

Everyone studying Bible prophecy should know that Obama is the Antichtrist 2008. Prince Charles was 2007 and Javier Solana 2006. Putie-poo might be considered front-runner for 2009, but Obama, if he wins in November might be a two-time winner.




solarflare -> RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? (8/18/2008 12:42:42 PM)

I don't think he is pretty enough to be the anti-Christ....where's the charm?




bob97 -> RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? (8/18/2008 2:45:37 PM)

Cow did you ever consider the fact that they all are potential Antichrist?

Bob




cow451 -> RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? (8/18/2008 5:08:47 PM)

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ORIGINAL: bob97

Cow did you ever consider the fact that they all are potential Antichrist?

Bob


"fact"?




FurGodWurLivin -> RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? (8/19/2008 5:30:14 AM)

Is Vladamir Putin the anti-christ? I don't honestly think so. I have a very hard time believing that Russia is going to spawn the Antichrist for two specific reasons. First, the assumption that Russia is going to be the last Beast of Daniel 7 has been popular eschatology only since the Cold War era. Since many of us still remember what the world was like with the Iron Curtain of the USSR, I think that as a whole we are still to "Pavlov-ish" to really be objective about Russia's involvment in world politics. Secondly, it would be somewhat out of character for the Bible to be referring to Russia. The overwhelming majority of Biblical prophecy is referring to nations orbiting around the Mediterranean Sea (Greece, Egypt, Israel, Edom, Tyre, Rome) and those to the East of Israel (Edom, Babylon, Persia, Syria, Assyria). These two make me think that Putin could very much be a foreshadowing or a "type" of the Antichrist (much like Hitler and Stalin), but I can't honestly say I think that he IS the Antichrist.
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I don't think he is pretty enough to be the anti-Christ....where's the charm?
Charm being a relative term... You can't forget that Vladamir Putin is an extremely popular figure in Russia. In fact, people were wanting him to pass executive orders lifting the restrictions on term limits so he could run again. So, as we say in the states, "one man's trash is another's treasure."
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Cow did you ever consider the fact that they all are potential Antichrist?
Between the use of the words "fact" and "potential" in the same sentance, the irony of this statement is just sickening...

Adam




bob97 -> RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? (8/19/2008 11:01:25 AM)

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Between the use of the words "fact" and "potential" in the same sentance, the irony of this statement is just sickening...


Sorry Adam...which word would you want me to leave out? Do you want me to outright say that people are dammed and are in fact an antichrist? Seems I have been told not to judge others.[:)]

Is it not a fact that anyone is potentially an antichrist?



Bob




solarflare -> RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? (8/19/2008 1:19:32 PM)

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I don't think he is pretty enough to be the anti-Christ....where's the charm?


Charm being a relative term... You can't forget that Vladamir Putin is an extremely popular figure in Russia. In fact, people were wanting him to pass executive orders lifting the restrictions on term limits so he could run


This was said 'tongue in cheek'. It did not need a reply. [;)]




FurGodWurLivin -> RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? (8/21/2008 4:18:39 AM)

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Sorry Adam...which word would you want me to leave out? Do you want me to outright say that people are dammed and are in fact an antichrist? Seems I have been told not to judge others.

Is it not a fact that anyone is potentially an antichrist?
Pardon my inner "English Geek". I was merely noting that a definitive statement such as "fact" and an open-ended word such as "potential" seemed rather ironic in the same statement. Then again, I am known for having a slightly odd sense of humor.

I guess I probably would have said, "have you considered that every last one of them have the potential to be the Antichrist?" But then again, that is allowing for the hypothetical possibility that I was trying to make the same point you were. In reality, I probably would have said "I kind of discount all claims of 'Antichristship' until there is a seven year peace treaty with Israel and the mandating of a tatoo..."



Solarflare........... got it, pardon my missing your sassiness...

Adam




bob97 -> RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? (8/21/2008 10:30:43 AM)

Once again…sorry Adam, I know that my language rules are for the most part non existent. I really feel blessed to just find the key board. But like a wise man once said… You Gotta Dance With Them What Brung Ya, so I do the best with what I have.[8D]

Bob




diddl2007 -> RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? (8/21/2008 12:58:31 PM)

I think that antichrist will be muslim...




LBolt -> RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? (8/21/2008 1:28:36 PM)

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I think that antichrist will be muslim...


Ditto.

I think the empire fulfills the prophesy was the Ottoman Empire (Islam). Russia plays a very key role anti-Messiah comes from a Middle Eastern country, like Syria...I beilieve Antiochus Epiphanies iV came from Syria and he was the perfect type of who the anti-Messiah resembles. Even down to where his from. But...I'll continue to adopt a "wait and see" approach and see how this will pan out.

Putin does look very intriguing...




Birdiecat -> RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? (9/7/2008 8:03:30 AM)

Had to jot this down before I forgot it ... I read on a website that the beast will come from Mecca. I'll go look for it now.




cog41 -> RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? (9/7/2008 10:34:29 AM)

Is Putin "the" antichrist?

I don't think so. Potential but not the one.




bob97 -> RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? (9/7/2008 1:43:33 PM)

Wow...glanced at the title if this OP first thing this morning (still asleep) and read "IS PALIN THE ANTICHRIST" ... I'm thinking... get real but then I read it again and things returned to normal.[:(]

Bob




Retrobyter -> RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? (9/7/2008 7:20:16 PM)

Shalom, friends.

I'm sure that Putin is AN "antichristos," that is a person who "does not believe that Yeshua` (Jesus) is haMashiach (the Messiah or the Christ) or that He came in the flesh," but I find it questionable at best on whether he is the Man of antiTorah (Lawlessness) or the Wild Animal (Beast) of Revelation.

Nor do I believe that one who could talk Jews into being against keeping the Torah could be anything less than ANOTHER JEW. Gentiles (non-Jews, as most modern "Christians" are) are almost ALWAYS against keeping Torah, making the excuse that Yeshua` already kept all of the Torah and freed us from the necessity of keeping it. And, that would include all other nationalities and Islamic nations as well! No, I feel it's safe to say that the man who teaches the nation of Isra'el to abandon the Torah would have to be a Jew.

Retrobyter




Thessa -> RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? (9/9/2008 5:11:40 AM)

The anti-christ will come in a false peace. Alot of people will be led by him and follow his words. I dont think anyone will suspect anything about him at all. Until its too late. Thank the Lord we Christians wont have to worry about that though.




cog41 -> RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? (9/9/2008 10:46:45 AM)

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Thank the Lord we Christians wont have to worry about that though.


Careful Thessa, there are those here who will throw ya to another thread to argue that point.




Thessa -> RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? (9/10/2008 6:25:21 AM)

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ORIGINAL: cog41

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Thank the Lord we Christians wont have to worry about that though.


Careful Thessa, there are those here who will throw ya to another thread to argue that point.



Which one?




bob97 -> RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? (9/11/2008 9:41:20 PM)

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Thank the Lord we Christians wont have to worry about that though.


He was without doubt saying that you were eluding to a pre-tribulation rapture Thessa...but I think you were just saying if we are Christians (belonging to Christ) we will not fall for the false religion of the Antichrist.

Bob




Birdiecat -> RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? (9/14/2008 10:00:12 AM)

We have to find a man who is fooling a lot of people about his talks of peace, etc. I'm sure he would approve of Putin!




Thessa -> RE: Is Putin the Antichrist? (9/16/2008 9:06:31 AM)

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ORIGINAL: bob97

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Thank the Lord we Christians wont have to worry about that though.


He was without doubt saying that you were eluding to a pre-tribulation rapture Thessa...but I think you were just saying if we are Christians (belonging to Christ) we will not fall for the false religion of the Antichrist.

Bob



Well..i was actually saying both.
I was saying we wont fall for the false religion because we know the truth. Therefore, we will be taken when the rapture occurs.




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