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SwedishCovenant -> Reasons to vote for John McCain (8/14/2008 9:46:37 AM)

Stick to the subject.



SwedishCovenant -> RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain (8/14/2008 9:54:06 AM)

My own reasons:

1) As a combat veteran, he has demonstrated his commitment to the defense of the public at the risk - oh yes - of his own person. IE, he has demonstrated his willingness to put the good of the nation ahead of his own safety and/or survival, if necessary.

2) He has extensive experience of being in both the majority and the minority in government, and has some grasp of how to advance legislation (read - "get things done") in both circumstances.

3) He speaks the language of both the intelligence and the military communities, understands the limitations and strengths of both.

4) Has some measure of respect from the leadship of the rest of the world.

5) Has some measure of respect for the worth of the individual at all stages of life - and seems to have a healthy wariness of arbitrary authority affecting that individuality.

A good man, and a good candidate - and I would hope and expect, a good President.



Jhud -> RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain (8/14/2008 9:56:08 AM)

I will re-post this list, with a few additions, since this is the most appropriate place:

Experience as a self-sacrificial leader in the most harrowing of circumstances, namely a POW in a jungle prison.

Years of experience building legislative coalitions across party lines that move programs forward.

Years of proven foreign policy experience, improtant in the uncertain times we live in.

A substantive record of supporting judges that adhere closely to the Constitution, an important consideration considering the number of issues to be decided by the courts in the next few terms (particularly gay marriage).

A consistent williness to make hard budgetary decisions that reduce spending, even criticizing his party and President to do so.

A balanced view of energy policy that includes both exploration, nuclear, and development of alternatives.

A willingness to support unpopular military strategies (like the surge) when neccesity dictates.

Able to and willng to limit a Democratic controlled congress, and still get work done.

Won't bow to world opinion on matters of interest to the US.



Pat-rebel_lady -> RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain (8/14/2008 10:47:26 AM)

ALL the above

AND

His stand on 'Lobbying and Ethics Reform':
Pork Barrel: As he pointed out recently as part of his longstanding, principled, and often lonely vigil against pork barrel earmarks in Congress: "Earmarked dollars have doubled just since 2000, and more than tripled in the last 10 years. This explosion in earmarks led one lobbyist to deride the appropriations committees as favor factories. The time for us to fix this broken process is long overdue." As President, John McCain would shine the disinfecting light of public scrutiny on those who abuse the public purse, use the power of the presidency to restore fiscal responsibility, and exercise the veto pen to enforce it.

Stop the Revolving Door and Restore Ethics: He has fought for an independent ethics office in Congress to help restore the public's faith in the integrity of the legislative branch.

Democracy is Not for Sale:
John McCain understands that in America the people are sovereign, and deserve a political process worthy of the sacrifices that have been made by so many to keep us free and proud. As President, John McCain will see to it that the institutions of self-government are respected pillars of democracy, not commodities to be bought, bartered, or abused.

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SwedishCovenant -> RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain (8/14/2008 11:45:35 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Pat-rebel_lady

ALL the above

AND

His stand on 'Lobbying and Ethics Reform':
Pork Barrel: As he pointed out recently as part of his longstanding, principled, and often lonely vigil against pork barrel earmarks in Congress: "Earmarked dollars have doubled just since 2000, and more than tripled in the last 10 years. This explosion in earmarks led one lobbyist to deride the appropriations committees as favor factories. The time for us to fix this broken process is long overdue." As President, John McCain would shine the disinfecting light of public scrutiny on those who abuse the public purse, use the power of the presidency to restore fiscal responsibility, and exercise the veto pen to enforce it.

Stop the Revolving Door and Restore Ethics: He has fought for an independent ethics office in Congress to help restore the public's faith in the integrity of the legislative branch.

Democracy is Not for Sale:
John McCain understands that in America the people are sovereign, and deserve a political process worthy of the sacrifices that have been made by so many to keep us free and proud. As President, John McCain will see to it that the institutions of self-government are respected pillars of democracy, not commodities to be bought, bartered, or abused.

More HERE


I'd buy this one at a black-market scalper's price RIGHT NOW!!

And start by sliding the entire K Street structure in Washington through a black hole and onto the polar icecap of Neptune.



GroupW -> RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain (8/14/2008 11:55:30 AM)

K-street has a legitimate function. Most of the lobbyists exist to provide information and background on issues. Legislators can't be experts in everything, so you could think of lobbyists as research tools.

That isn't bad in and of itself. It's the "pay-to-play" games behind the scenes and how access to legislators is determined that creates problems. In that sense, I completely respect McCain's attempts to expose the process to some daylight and enforce some rules.

Unfortunately, this has put him in a pickle in most election years. How do you run for president and raise a LOT of cash to run a campaign when you've built your whole career on preaching the evils of the current campaign finance system and tried to keep major contributors from influencing the system?

In most years, this classifies his campaign as dead-on-arrival. This year, however, the window for him opened a bit due to the various miss-steps by his own party. Being identified as so strongly independent makes him much more palatable than he would otherwise be. He was probably the only Republican candidate that could give B. O. a run for his money.

I won't be voting for the man, but I do have a tremendous respect for him as a person, a war vet, and a leader.



huskarine -> RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain (8/14/2008 12:04:18 PM)

he is the lesser of two politicians, more honest per say...

his track record, well the fact that he has one[:D], and he is for judeo-christian values...



davemiller7 -> RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain (8/14/2008 1:34:21 PM)

Dittoes what huskarine said in #7. I'll hold my nose and vote for him. [8D]

-Dave



rcjames -> RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain (8/14/2008 1:49:59 PM)

Reasons to vote for John McCain?

How about to keep a flaming tax raising, abortion supportin, tree hugging, no drilling of our own oil, member of a cult, anti-security, let's all hold hands and sing Kum-ba Ya, chicken licken poiitical hack out of the office of President of the United States.

Thanks
RC



tafkam -> RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain (8/14/2008 1:51:47 PM)

The sad part is that according to polls, that's exactly what nearly half of the American public wants....



huskarine -> RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain (8/14/2008 1:51:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: rcjames

Reasons to vote for John McCain?

How about to keep a flaming tax raising, abortion supportin, tree hugging, no drilling of our own oil, member of a cult, anti-security, let's all hold hands and sing Kum-ba Ya, chicken licken poiitical hack out of the office of President of the United States.

Thanks
RC


easy there...you don't want to be too modest!!!

happy 100 postings everybody!!!



huangshan -> RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain (8/14/2008 2:47:58 PM)

Because the USSR needs to be publicly condemned for its invasion of Georgia and he is just the man to do it.

Also, someone needs to keep an eye on the North Korea/Iraqi border and the Iranian Al Qaida training camps to protect our Czechoslovakian allies in the pre-awakening surge.

...

That was immature, I know.



davemiller7 -> RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain (8/14/2008 2:53:57 PM)

Gee, RC, I wish you'd quit beating around the bush and say what you really mean. [:D]

-Dave

quote:

ORIGINAL: rcjames

Reasons to vote for John McCain?

How about to keep a flaming tax raising, abortion supportin, tree hugging, no drilling of our own oil, member of a cult, anti-security, let's all hold hands and sing Kum-ba Ya, chicken licken poiitical hack out of the office of President of the United States.

Thanks
RC



tracydolls -> RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain (8/14/2008 3:00:23 PM)

Because he would be the lessor of TWO EVILS, he is not as pretty as BO though.



SwedishCovenant -> RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain (8/14/2008 3:08:25 PM)

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ORIGINAL: huangshan

Because the USSR needs to be publicly condemned for its invasion of Georgia and he is just the man to do it.

Also, someone needs to keep an eye on the North Korea/Iraqi border and the Iranian Al Qaida training camps to protect our Czechoslovakian allies in the pre-awakening surge.

...

That was immature, I know.


Other than the fact that the USSR is seventeen years in its grave...

Yeah, how DARE that big country protect its own security interests and invade a smaller nation! How DARE they scorn the approbation of the UN and the rest of the world! How DARE they use 'defense of their own citizenry' as a justification for their invasion/occupation? How DARE they make no plans for establishing and maintaining order in the civilian areas they occupy?

Who do they think they are? Americans?



SwedishCovenant -> RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain (8/14/2008 3:09:40 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: huangshan

Because the USSR needs to be publicly condemned for its invasion of Georgia and he is just the man to do it.

Also, someone needs to keep an eye on the North Korea/Iraqi border and the Iranian Al Qaida training camps to protect our Czechoslovakian allies in the pre-awakening surge.

...

That was immature, I know.


But I'll bet you had fun with it.



rcjames -> RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain (8/14/2008 3:35:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: tracydolls

Because he would be the lessor of TWO EVILS, he is not as pretty as BO though.


Hey tracydolls, mark this one down; I am going to agree with you.


Thanks
RC



rcjames -> RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain (8/14/2008 3:37:31 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SwedishCovenant
Other than the fact that the USSR is seventeen years in its grave...

Yeah, how DARE that big country protect its own security interests and invade a smaller nation! How DARE they scorn the approbation of the UN and the rest of the world! How DARE they use 'defense of their own citizenry' as a justification for their invasion/occupation? How DARE they make no plans for establishing and maintaining order in the civilian areas they occupy?

Who do they think they are? Americans?


Cute, real cute; your liberal to the point of pinko commie roots are showing.

If you don't like the USA, I am sure we can gather you up a one way ticket to Russia or Iran.[8|]

Thanks
RC



WesP -> RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain (8/14/2008 3:40:52 PM)

quote:

Other than the fact that the USSR is seventeen years in its grave...


Somebody forgot to tell Putin. Perhaps, McCain will slap him hard enough so that he can hear you! [:D]



SwedishCovenant -> RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain (8/14/2008 4:21:43 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: rcjames

quote:

ORIGINAL: SwedishCovenant
Other than the fact that the USSR is seventeen years in its grave...

Yeah, how DARE that big country protect its own security interests and invade a smaller nation! How DARE they scorn the approbation of the UN and the rest of the world! How DARE they use 'defense of their own citizenry' as a justification for their invasion/occupation? How DARE they make no plans for establishing and maintaining order in the civilian areas they occupy?

Who do they think they are? Americans?


Cute, real cute; your liberal to the point of pinko commie roots are showing.

If you don't like the USA, I am sure we can gather you up a one way ticket to Russia or Iran.[8|]

Thanks
RC


I must say, that was a splendid exhibit of your discussion skills.



blue1914 -> RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain (8/14/2008 4:22:59 PM)

I would LOVE a reason to vote for a true "fiscal conservative" and in this election Mr. McCain would appear to be that representative-only his proposed changes (more tax cuts, no real plans for long term financial health of the nation) does not place him in that camp at all.

Additionally, all politics aside I don't know that given the current view the world has of the U.S. any more "slapping" of any form is a very good idea-in case you haven't noticed folks, we're not the big bad brother that we once were to the world-the name U.S. is striking a little less terror than it did in the past (look at the Georgia conflict-they were tight enough with the U.S. that Russia should have been quaking in their boots (and would have been 20 years ago) at the THOUGHT of touching a toe over their border, regardless of provocation. Looks like that ship sailed, huh). Looks like it's time to speak a little more softly because we POSSIBLY don't have as big of a stick as in the past. Anyone attempt to do otherwise may do more harm than good in today's worldwide climate.



SwedishCovenant -> RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain (8/14/2008 4:22:59 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: rcjames

quote:

ORIGINAL: SwedishCovenant
Other than the fact that the USSR is seventeen years in its grave...

Yeah, how DARE that big country protect its own security interests and invade a smaller nation! How DARE they scorn the approbation of the UN and the rest of the world! How DARE they use 'defense of their own citizenry' as a justification for their invasion/occupation? How DARE they make no plans for establishing and maintaining order in the civilian areas they occupy?

Who do they think they are? Americans?


Cute, real cute; your liberal to the point of pinko commie roots are showing.

If you don't like the USA, I am sure we can gather you up a one way ticket to Russia or Iran.[8|]

Thanks
RC


Having fun violating TOS 6?



WesP -> RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain (8/14/2008 4:25:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: SwedishCovenant

quote:

ORIGINAL: rcjames

quote:

ORIGINAL: SwedishCovenant
Other than the fact that the USSR is seventeen years in its grave...

Yeah, how DARE that big country protect its own security interests and invade a smaller nation! How DARE they scorn the approbation of the UN and the rest of the world! How DARE they use 'defense of their own citizenry' as a justification for their invasion/occupation? How DARE they make no plans for establishing and maintaining order in the civilian areas they occupy?

Who do they think they are? Americans?


Cute, real cute; your liberal to the point of pinko commie roots are showing.

If you don't like the USA, I am sure we can gather you up a one way ticket to Russia or Iran.[8|]

Thanks
RC


Having fun violating TOS 6?


No offense, SC, but I enjoyed it! [:D]



SwedishCovenant -> RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain (8/14/2008 4:30:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: WesP

quote:

ORIGINAL: SwedishCovenant

quote:

ORIGINAL: rcjames

quote:

ORIGINAL: SwedishCovenant
Other than the fact that the USSR is seventeen years in its grave...

Yeah, how DARE that big country protect its own security interests and invade a smaller nation! How DARE they scorn the approbation of the UN and the rest of the world! How DARE they use 'defense of their own citizenry' as a justification for their invasion/occupation? How DARE they make no plans for establishing and maintaining order in the civilian areas they occupy?

Who do they think they are? Americans?


Cute, real cute; your liberal to the point of pinko commie roots are showing.

If you don't like the USA, I am sure we can gather you up a one way ticket to Russia or Iran.[8|]

Thanks
RC


Having fun violating TOS 6?


No offense, SC, but I enjoyed it! [:D]


Some people enjoy carnival geeks, bare-knuckle boxing, hockey fights, Jerry Springer, and bear-bating, too, but that is irrelevant.



WesP -> RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain (8/14/2008 4:43:47 PM)

Very true, but in light of that observation, much the same could be said of most of your posts. [;)]



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