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RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain - 8/14/2008 4:47:31 PM
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Jhud
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Well, at least you all made it a couple of hours before turning this into a slam McCain and his supporters thread. That might be called progress.
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RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain - 8/14/2008 5:01:18 PM
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SwedishCovenant
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Well, at least you all made it a couple of hours before turning this into a slam McCain and his supporters thread. That might be called progress.
I, too, regret that the discussion was led in this downward direction.
Thanks, RCJames. This was a decent thread.
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RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain - 8/14/2008 5:27:04 PM
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Dred
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Top Ten List:
10. I liked Bob Dole and who needs to be distracted by charm? Presidents should be boring old men.
9. Democrats are easily spoiled.
8. Hillary endorsed Obama.
7. He has a very long political career; at least we know what we're getting.
6. Michael Moore will vote against him.
5. Jimmy Carter will vote against him.
4. He publicly sang the parody song that goes, "Bomb-bomb-bomb-bomb-bomb Iran..."
3. There is at least a chance he will appoint judges who don't consider the constitution to be a Rorschach Test.
2. He's got guts.
And the number one reason to vote for John McCain....
1. When it comes to presidential candidates, I still haven't found what I'm looking for, but he's the sweetest thing we've got. (my thanks to U2)
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RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain - 8/14/2008 6:16:12 PM
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saved9201
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Because the USSR needs to be publicly condemned for its invasion of Georgia and he is just the man to do it.
Also, someone needs to keep an eye on the North Korea/Iraqi border and the Iranian Al Qaida training camps to protect our Czechoslovakian allies in the pre-awakening surge.
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That was immature, I know.
That was hilarious! 
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RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain - 8/14/2008 6:43:11 PM
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Reasons to vote for J. Sidney M.
He's a known entity and less of a risk
He has experience
He's more mature and time tested
He had the courage to speak before the NAACP and the National Urban league when he knew he wasn't their candidate of choice.
He actually admits when he's wrong instead of trying to convince people that they misunderstood him the first time.
A Commander in Chief should have military experience.
I kinda like those Bush tax cuts.
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RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain - 8/14/2008 7:52:18 PM
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Jack, you rose above the masses with your mature response on that thread. Kudos to you. 
Ditto. If I could find the thumbs up smiley, I'd add it.
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RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain - 8/14/2008 11:36:44 PM
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1. He has a record of working across party lines
2. He is NOT an ideologue
3. He has a good sense of humor
4. He appreciates other points of view
5. He will look out for veterans -- an area of great need
6. He married a rich and good looking woman -- jk
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RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain - 8/15/2008 11:21:06 AM
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You're right that once we would have had Russia quaking in their boots, but with all of the trying not to offend anyone attitude the country is exhibiting lately, it just isn't that way anymore. And take the Iraq war claim by President Bush of "shock and awe." It was more like "poof and fizzle." Real shock and awe is like what happened in World War II in Dresden, Hamburg, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki. Yes, there were a lot of innocent casualties then, and that is a shame, but those displays of force and might did not make our enemies more resolute to fight us. Quite the opposite, it showed to everyone that we had overwhelming force and the will to win. We still possess the overwhelming force, but I'm afraid our will to win is gone. So, I'm not at all surprised that Russia treats our rhetoric with disdain.
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Additionally, all politics aside I don't know that given the current view the world has of the U.S. any more "slapping" of any form is a very good idea-in case you haven't noticed folks, we're not the big bad brother that we once were to the world-the name U.S. is striking a little less terror than it did in the past (look at the Georgia conflict-they were tight enough with the U.S. that Russia should have been quaking in their boots (and would have been 20 years ago) at the THOUGHT of touching a toe over their border, regardless of provocation. Looks like that ship sailed, huh). Looks like it's time to speak a little more softly because we POSSIBLY don't have as big of a stick as in the past. Anyone attempt to do otherwise may do more harm than good in today's worldwide climate.
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RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain - 8/15/2008 11:30:02 AM
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huskarine
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You're right that once we would have had Russia quaking in their boots, but with all of the trying not to offend anyone attitude the country is exhibiting lately, it just isn't that way anymore. And take the Iraq war claim by President Bush of "shock and awe." It was more like "poof and fizzle." Real shock and awe is like what happened in World War II in Dresden, Hamburg, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki. Yes, there were a lot of innocent casualties then, and that is a shame, but those displays of force and might did not make our enemies more resolute to fight us. Quite the opposite, it showed to everyone that we had overwhelming force and the will to win. We still possess the overwhelming force, but I'm afraid our will to win is gone. So, I'm not at all surprised that Russia treats our rhetoric with disdain.
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Additionally, all politics aside I don't know that given the current view the world has of the U.S. any more "slapping" of any form is a very good idea-in case you haven't noticed folks, we're not the big bad brother that we once were to the world-the name U.S. is striking a little less terror than it did in the past (look at the Georgia conflict-they were tight enough with the U.S. that Russia should have been quaking in their boots (and would have been 20 years ago) at the THOUGHT of touching a toe over their border, regardless of provocation. Looks like that ship sailed, huh). Looks like it's time to speak a little more softly because we POSSIBLY don't have as big of a stick as in the past. Anyone attempt to do otherwise may do more harm than good in today's worldwide climate.
well said, and i concur...
shock and awe is politically incorrect...too bad the enemy doesn't care about that anyway...
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RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain - 8/15/2008 12:26:50 PM
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He dosen't shy away from the press(he has been interviewed on FOX news) or the public, and dosen't seem to worry about saying the "wrong" thing, in the eyes of a press, that's chompin' at the bit, for "controversy".
He will somewhat, prevent a sweep of all three houses to the Dems. When the GOP did this, they acted like Democrat Lite; Rest assured if the same thing happens for the left, Democrats will remain Democrats... and not the lite version either.
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RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain - 8/15/2008 6:30:17 PM
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jfwink
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I imagine these reasons have all been given, but here goes: McCain is undoubtedly a war hero, he is strong on foreign policy, he is stongly against pork barrel spending, he is pro life, he is likely to appoint strict constructionist SC nominees.
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RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain - 8/15/2008 9:27:03 PM
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This probably doesn't belong here, but I don't see how it's worthy of its own thread and it could be construed as a reason to vote for McCain. If nothing else, he's funny and creative.
Sorry, removed the link 'cause one of the words violated the TOS. Anyways:
Summary: McCain likes Abba. When questioned about how he could be so lame, he brings up his POW status: "If there is anything I am lacking in, I’ve got to tell you, it is taste in music and art and other great things in life,” McCain joked. “I’ve got to say that a lot of my taste in music stopped about the time I impacted a surface-to-air missile with my own airplane and never caught up again."
But there's a twist! McCain was shot down in 1967. ABBA began making music in 1972.
< Message edited by huangshan -- 8/15/2008 9:40:49 PM >
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RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain - 8/15/2008 11:24:53 PM
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1. He is a veteran, a war hero and deserves everyone's respect.
2. He shares the same stance as GWB on the matter of abortion.
3. He has a fairly decent record on the environment.
4. He reaches across party lines - huge, in my opinion.
5. He seems to really care about providing healthcare to all - though I am unsure how his idea will (but will look into it more)
6. McCain-Feingold bill (campaign finance reform bill) - no more need mentioned!!! (especially since Feingold is from my home cheeesehead-Favre-is-gone-Go-Rodgers state)
7. I looooooove McCains music era when he grew up - fluff - I know, but it's true- I loooove big band music.
Peace and God bless,
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RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain - 8/15/2008 11:38:47 PM
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SovereignIsHe
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He's less ungodly than Mr. Obama...
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RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain - 8/18/2008 5:56:31 PM
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Another reason to vote for him. he is going to cut taxes, balance the budget and keep spending billions in iraq, if he can do that he has to have to magic. There was an other president who said they were going to cut taxes, balance the budget and increase defense spending. He ran up some of the largest deficits the only way that could have been paid off buy a tax increase.
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RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain - 8/18/2008 10:38:38 PM
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Another reason to vote for him. he is going to cut taxes, balance the budget and keep spending billions in iraq, if he can do that he has to have to magic. There was an other president who said they were going to cut taxes, balance the budget and increase defense spending. He ran up some of the largest deficits the only way that could have been paid off buy a tax increase.
Don't forget he's a gonna "drill here, drill now, pay less, my friends" and "follow Bin Laden to the gates of hell, my friends"
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RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain - 8/24/2008 4:14:15 AM
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I have MANY reasons to vote for McCain, including his fantastic morals, the honesty in his voice, the sacrifices he has prooven to make for this Country, and his love of God, but rather than spell them all out right now ill just say the most important one, and the one that caused me to make up my mind in the end...he never ONCE made fun of the bible, unlike his rival.
If a person makes fun of the bible he is NOT one i want as the President of the USA.
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RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain - 8/24/2008 10:45:18 AM
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huangshan
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I have MANY reasons to vote for McCain, including his fantastic morals, the honesty in his voice, the sacrifices he has prooven to make for this Country, and his love of God, but rather than spell them all out right now ill just say the most important one, and the one that caused me to make up my mind in the end...he never ONCE made fun of the bible, unlike his rival.
If a person makes fun of the bible he is NOT one i want as the President of the USA.
I think the burgeoning phenomenon that is "noun, verb, POW" is a strong indicator that he is abusing the integrity that he showed by his extreme bravery.
And I'm not sure what you mean by "making fun of the bible", and it sounds like you're referring to Obama. I'm not familiar with that one, and I'm surprised it hasn't gotten more play here if it's true.
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RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain - 8/24/2008 4:17:01 PM
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Thessa
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I have MANY reasons to vote for McCain, including his fantastic morals, the honesty in his voice, the sacrifices he has prooven to make for this Country, and his love of God, but rather than spell them all out right now ill just say the most important one, and the one that caused me to make up my mind in the end...he never ONCE made fun of the bible, unlike his rival.
If a person makes fun of the bible he is NOT one i want as the President of the USA.
I think the burgeoning phenomenon that is "noun, verb, POW" is a strong indicator that he is abusing the integrity that he showed by his extreme bravery.
And I'm not sure what you mean by "making fun of the bible", and it sounds like you're referring to Obama. I'm not familiar with that one, and I'm surprised it hasn't gotten more play here if it's true.
He isnt abusing anything. He did what he did for this Country. Others are abusing it.
Ill show you what i mean by Obama making fun of the bible.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Kh-xzerjE
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RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain - 8/24/2008 6:12:58 PM
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he never ONCE made fun of the bible, unlike his rival.
If a person makes fun of the bible he is NOT one i want as the President of the USA.
McCain mocked Christianity and the bible by comparing Obama to a messiah in 2 of his attack ads. I may not agree with some of Obama's theology but he has NEVER made fun of the bible or Christianity or used christian figures so flippantly as McCain has.
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If a person makes fun of the bible he is NOT one i want as the President of the USA.
I agree, which is why McCain would NEVER get my vote.
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RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain - 8/24/2008 6:20:21 PM
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McCain mocked Christianity and the bible by comparing Obama to a messiah in 2 of his attack ads. I may not agree with some of Obama's theology but he has NEVER made fun of the bible or Christianity or used christian figures so flippantly as McCain has.
Mr Obama's stance on abortion and homosexuality and the fact he spent 20 years in a church that recognizes same sex unions says that he has no issue with mocking God... His claim of Christ and being a Christian while holding to these believes doesn't present Christianity in the way one should and for the record Mr. Obama dropped his pastor of 20 years faster than a live hand grenade when push came to shove... Of course it wouldn't surprise if they mended the fence after the fact...
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RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain - 8/24/2008 9:41:14 PM
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I think the burgeoning phenomenon that is "noun, verb, POW" is a strong indicator that he is abusing the integrity that he showed by his extreme bravery.
And I'm not sure what you mean by "making fun of the bible", and it sounds like you're referring to Obama. I'm not familiar with that one, and I'm surprised it hasn't gotten more play here if it's true.
He isnt abusing anything. He did what he did for this Country. Others are abusing it.
Ill show you what i mean by Obama making fun of the bible.
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=B2Kh-xzerjE
Well, McCain has been using his former POW status to deflect questions about his troubles remembering how many houses he has, his terrible taste in music, and essentially everything under the sun. He used his POW status to great effect in his original senate campaign. I'm not sure how this becomes "others are abusing it". At this point, I'm not sure that it's hyperbolic to say that it's difficult to find a subject where he hasn't inserted a reference to his former POW status.
And I'd be happy to discuss Obama making fun of the bible, but could you explain it to me? I'm not sure what I'm supposed to take away from the video.
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RE: Reasons to vote for John McCain - 8/24/2008 10:03:48 PM
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Well, McCain has been using his former POW status to deflect questions about his troubles remembering how many houses he has,
I guess nobody on the left has figured out that that statement was made in jest....everybody is taking it so darn seriously...
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his terrible taste in music,
Since when is taste in music a qualification to be President?
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