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Ever pray this way before? - 8/11/2008 12:33:10 PM
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Knolt
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brothers, I've been a Christian for over thirteen years now. I've been told in the past about "passing the test". I was told in so many words it's a sin to get angry, complain, or have a "bad" attitude during trying times. I was taught in so many words that wouldn't be "passing the test". guys, in recent times, I've prayed not so saintly prayers to God when going through trying times which included "God, I know in Your Word it says to be thankful for all your trials and afflictions. well, I'M NOT THANKFUL FOR THIS AT ALL!! THIS SUCKS!!" Guys, I used to believe years ago that praying like that would be sacriligious. Funny thing is, I don't think praying that way is sacriligious at all now. To me it's just being honest. God knows what's in my heart anyways so why should I try to hide it from Him?
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RE: Ever pray this way before? - 8/11/2008 1:44:46 PM
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yes i've told God it seems like my circumstances suck and i don't like them. david cried out to God in the Psalms ... Jesus wept bitterly ... they experienced pain ... i do believe there is a lot to our thought process influencing our behavior so complaining to God is one thing but i believe taking it out on family/friends/coworkers by being grumpy/passive-aggressive is not acceptable ...
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RE: Ever pray this way before? - 8/11/2008 6:12:49 PM
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brothers, I've been a Christian for over thirteen years now. I've been told in the past about "passing the test". I was told in so many words it's a sin to get angry, complain, or have a "bad" attitude during trying times. I was taught in so many words that wouldn't be "passing the test". guys, in recent times, I've prayed not so saintly prayers to God when going through trying times which included "God, I know in Your Word it says to be thankful for all your trials and afflictions. well, I'M NOT THANKFUL FOR THIS AT ALL!! THIS SUCKS!!" Guys, I used to believe years ago that praying like that would be sacriligious. Funny thing is, I don't think praying that way is sacriligious at all now. To me it's just being honest. God knows what's in my heart anyways so why should I try to hide it from Him?
I've never prayed in the anger of hurt or confusion in all caps with exclamation points, as it were. I've never considered doing such. This post does bring to mind times when I just prayed that God would be there to listen, and then just talked to him about things. Just having a conversation with Him- not praying to Him. I'm of the opinion that this is possible, and that doing this, I can air out my anger, frustration, confusion, whatever in conversation with God. This lets me reserve my prayer time for things I'd choose not to try to combine with what was aired. Whether my conversations with Him end up taking on the form of a prayer or not, I don't think it bothers Him one bit.
Just a thought that not everything you want to say to God has to be in a prayer format. Anyone ever considered such?
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RE: Ever pray this way before? - 8/17/2008 5:52:30 AM
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I generally try to AVOID praying in typical prayer format since I always feel I'm being cheesy and fake. I don't talk like that IRL, God said come just as you are. And I do. And like you said, God knows you're heart anyway so why lie? Its such a relief at times to just talk like in a conversation explaining or talking about everything as if He doesn't know even though you know he does.
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RE: Ever pray this way before? - 8/23/2008 2:32:09 AM
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brothers, I've been a Christian for over thirteen years now. I've been told in the past about "passing the test". I was told in so many words it's a sin to get angry, complain, or have a "bad" attitude during trying times. I was taught in so many words that wouldn't be "passing the test". guys, in recent times, I've prayed not so saintly prayers to God when going through trying times which included "God, I know in Your Word it says to be thankful for all your trials and afflictions. well, I'M NOT THANKFUL FOR THIS AT ALL!! THIS SUCKS!!" Guys, I used to believe years ago that praying like that would be sacriligious. Funny thing is, I don't think praying that way is sacriligious at all now. To me it's just being honest. God knows what's in my heart anyways so why should I try to hide it from Him?
KnoIt,
I would guess you are praying in anger like that to God privately?
I guess you get in your best stance, look up to the heavens, and yell away, with appropriate finger pointing to wherever you believe God to be, and then to your own world, wherever it is that something is terrible?
Is yelling in anger at a benefactor a sign of maturity in today's world? I'd say no.
Is praying in anger honesty when you are angry, or since God knows you are angry already, is it just putting on airs? I mean, isn't there a better use for the energy than to be yelling and thinking such angry and honest thoughts in prayer?
I've got to get your take on this before I take on the language of prayer being talked about here.
Thanks,
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RE: Ever pray this way before? - 8/24/2008 5:15:20 PM
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I too have felt anger, deep anger. I once prayed in such a way as this. While feeling some comfort, I also felt shame. We are to come "boldly" before the throne, but not irreverently. I have learned and am still learning in these times to tell God openly that I am angry or disappointed or jealous or whatever, but then to ask Him to help me be free of such feelings. Sometimes we must pray as the Lord, "..not my will, but Thine...". Help me to not feel anger, but trust. Help me to praise even though my soul despises the circumstances. (Or would that be my flesh?) Help me to praise as Paul did in prison. May the Light of God shine brightest through me while I'm in the darkest valley. May I be patient while He yet again proves that "all things work together for good...".
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RE: Ever pray this way before? - 8/24/2008 10:53:41 PM
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Being angry at God is an emotion. It doesn't get you much, but God can handle it.
When we look to God even when we are angry with him, I believe he honors the fact that we are still looking to him. God knows your heart, why not voice it so you can get it out, he knows it's there anyway.
I have found through long trials that it is best to be honest with God, the key is you just don't vent your anger at him, you read His Word so you can learn what he's teaching you.
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RE: Ever pray this way before? - 8/24/2008 11:35:52 PM
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brothers, I've been a Christian for over thirteen years now. I've been told in the past about "passing the test". I was told in so many words it's a sin to get angry, complain, or have a "bad" attitude during trying times. I was taught in so many words that wouldn't be "passing the test". guys, in recent times, I've prayed not so saintly prayers to God when going through trying times which included "God, I know in Your Word it says to be thankful for all your trials and afflictions. well, I'M NOT THANKFUL FOR THIS AT ALL!! THIS SUCKS!!" Guys, I used to believe years ago that praying like that would be sacriligious. Funny thing is, I don't think praying that way is sacriligious at all now. To me it's just being honest. God knows what's in my heart anyways so why should I try to hide it from Him?
Yep, GOD hates formulated prayers. He likes real honest ones so he can work on you where you really are.
We need to stop hiding our secrets from GOD since he already knows them.
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RE: Ever pray this way before? - 8/25/2008 5:53:53 AM
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It's funny, well not really, how we think we need to inform God about what's already on our mind and heart.
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RE: Ever pray this way before? - 8/25/2008 2:04:30 PM
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I believe marriage is work,it's difficult for both parties,and their will most certainly be anger,expressed or otherwise.We are married to God and we get angry with one another at times.
Thanks to Jesus we have a line of communication open to God that is founded in grace.I communicate with God in much the same way I do my spouse.If I'm angry she know's it whether I say it or not.In both cases I strive to communicate in a respectful courteous way,although I fall short of this at times.
I make an intentional effort to decide before a situation arises to speak honestly,yet respectfully to both my wife and God.If I fall short I'm not above apologizing and doing better the next time.
The bottom line for me is to mature in my relationship with God,which means I carefully weigh my words and spirit when speaking to him,even though I know he already knows exactly what I'm feeling.
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RE: Ever pray this way before? - 8/25/2008 4:17:02 PM
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I opt for the way it was done in Scripture...
Ps 42:5
5 Why art thou cast down, O my soul? and why art thou disquieted in me? hope thou in God: for I shall yet praise him for the help of his countenance.
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RE: Ever pray this way before? - 8/25/2008 6:24:53 PM
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Hello Knolt
Didn't James write that we should count it all joy when we find ourselves in the midst of trials? If so, you need to praise God instead of ****ing and griping. Consider the Israelites. They murmered in the dessert and wandered of 40 years when it should have taken only 11 days.
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RE: Ever pray this way before? - 8/25/2008 11:14:08 PM
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Hello Knolt
Didn't James write that we should count it all joy when we find ourselves in the midst of trials? If so, you need to praise God instead of ****ing and griping. Consider the Israelites. They murmered in the dessert and wandered of 40 years when it should have taken only 11 days.
I'm sure Knolt realizes we shouldn't complain,which is why he asked have we ever.The flat out answer is yes we have,all of us prayed in anger/anguish.
We've all been desperate at our wits end and God has loved us through it.No we most certainly do not want to dishonor God in any way but we have had our moments.
In our brokenness especially as men we can grow and reach someone else that we might not have otherwise.
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RE: Ever pray this way before? - 8/28/2008 7:21:49 PM
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Hello Knolt
Didn't James write that we should count it all joy when we find ourselves in the midst of trials? If so, you need to praise God instead of ****ing and griping. Consider the Israelites. They murmered in the dessert and wandered of 40 years when it should have taken only 11 days.
I'm sure Knolt realizes we shouldn't complain,which is why he asked have we ever.The flat out answer is yes we have,all of us prayed in anger/anguish.
We've all been desperate at our wits end and God has loved us through it.No we most certainly do not want to dishonor God in any way but we have had our moments.
In our brokenness especially as men we can grow and reach someone else that we might not have otherwise.
Look at Job. Initially he took things in stride. but when things got better instead of worse, he complained bitterly. Some of King David's prayers in Psalms weren't very pious either.
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RE: Ever pray this way before? - 9/1/2008 7:12:41 PM
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Look at Job. Initially he took things in stride. but when things got better instead of worse, he complained bitterly. Some of King David's prayers in Psalms weren't very pious either.
Depends on your definition of "pious" and God's definition as revealed in David's prayer. Piety is a very misused word. God is not afraid of our hard questions -- we just have to listen to and understand the answer. The world expects us to be pious -- God expects us to be heavily into the world, just not of it, and honest with Him about it.
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RE: Ever pray this way before? - 9/6/2008 2:22:11 PM
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Look at Job. Initially he took things in stride. but when things got better instead of worse, he complained bitterly. Some of King David's prayers in Psalms weren't very pious either.
Depends on your definition of "pious" and God's definition as revealed in David's prayer. Piety is a very misused word. God is not afraid of our hard questions -- we just have to listen to and understand the answer. The world expects us to be pious -- God expects us to be heavily into the world, just not of it, and honest with Him about it.
In this sense I mean they pray a bunch of pretty prayers they feel they "ought to" pray instead of what's really on their minds and in their hearts. God knows whether you mean it or not on what you pray. I guess i'm also talking about people who paste a smiley face on themselves when they're really boiling inside too. they're afraid to say "life sucks" when in fact it really does.
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RE: Ever pray this way before? - 9/8/2008 3:10:11 PM
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brothers, I've been a Christian for over thirteen years now. I've been told in the past about "passing the test". I was told in so many words it's a sin to get angry, complain, or have a "bad" attitude during trying times. I was taught in so many words that wouldn't be "passing the test". guys, in recent times, I've prayed not so saintly prayers to God when going through trying times which included "God, I know in Your Word it says to be thankful for all your trials and afflictions. well, I'M NOT THANKFUL FOR THIS AT ALL!! THIS SUCKS!!" Guys, I used to believe years ago that praying like that would be sacriligious. Funny thing is, I don't think praying that way is sacriligious at all now. To me it's just being honest. God knows what's in my heart anyways so why should I try to hide it from Him?
After brain surgery my wife developed a long mental disease. Eventually during the course of this disease she had a seziure and God took her home. (Three years ago next week Saturday).
Do you think when she was non-communicative and all I could see was terror and pain in her eyes that I was praying softly?
Not quite. I was screaming my lungs out (so to speak) at God to fix things. To heal her. Little did I know that the healing was to take her home. Her problems were over but mine had only just begun.
Now I was a heartbroken man with a 7 year old daughter. Do you think that I was praying gently after my wife's death.
Nope, still yelling at God to fix it.
And you know what? He will. He is big enough to take our anger, our hurt, our desperate cries for help. He's big enough to let us vent and get our pain out of the way. And then He's big enough to hold us and let us cry it all out if that's what it takes. And He's still big enough to work on us after that and help us to really get the issue resolved.
I still have issues, but I'm healed enough to not be yelling so much. But from time to time I still express my frustration. And God is still big enough to listen to me, and to talk to me.
God truly is good to us.
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RE: Ever pray this way before? - 9/8/2008 3:11:33 PM
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After brain surgery my wife developed a long mental disease. Eventually during the course of this disease she had a seziure and God took her home. (Three years ago next week Saturday).
Do you think when she was non-communicative and all I could see was terror and pain in her eyes that I was praying softly?
Not quite. I was screaming my lungs out (so to speak) at God to fix things. To heal her. Little did I know that the healing was to take her home. Her problems were over but mine had only just begun.
Now I was a heartbroken man with a 7 year old daughter. Do you think that I was praying gently after my wife's death.
Nope, still yelling at God to fix it.
And you know what? He will. He is big enough to take our anger, our hurt, our desperate cries for help. He's big enough to let us vent and get our pain out of the way. And then He's big enough to hold us and let us cry it all out if that's what it takes. And He's still big enough to work on us after that and help us to really get the issue resolved.
I still have issues, but I'm healed enough to not be yelling so much. But from time to time I still express my frustration. And God is still big enough to listen to me, and to talk to me.
God truly is good to us.
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RE: Ever pray this way before? - 9/15/2008 6:31:59 PM
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Look at Job. Initially he took things in stride. but when things got better instead of worse, he complained bitterly. Some of King David's prayers in Psalms weren't very pious either.
Depends on your definition of "pious" and God's definition as revealed in David's prayer. Piety is a very misused word. God is not afraid of our hard questions -- we just have to listen to and understand the answer. The world expects us to be pious -- God expects us to be heavily into the world, just not of it, and honest with Him about it.
In this sense I mean they pray a bunch of pretty prayers they feel they "ought to" pray instead of what's really on their minds and in their hearts. God knows whether you mean it or not on what you pray. I guess i'm also talking about people who paste a smiley face on themselves when they're really boiling inside too. they're afraid to say "life sucks" when in fact it really does.
So you are saying the setting you are in is an important part of your prayer life, or are you only one to pray when you are alone and can shout at God if you feel like it?
Whatever gets you back on an even keel is sure to be a good thing, but I'd find it hard to think someone else has really had a rough go with things and they should be bawling as they pray, or yelling at the injustice they feel at it all instead of praying all pretty like they are doing.
To couple that prayer style with being able to pray in your own house, and being married and/or with kids, you are going to have to have a soundproofed prayer chamber room, or your wife's friends, or kids/their friends are in for some interesting learning about what really irks daddy and such. Kids don't associate yelling with love. Have you thought any about that?
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RE: Ever pray this way before? - 9/15/2008 7:02:18 PM
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Look at Job. Initially he took things in stride. but when things got better instead of worse, he complained bitterly. Some of King David's prayers in Psalms weren't very pious either.
Depends on your definition of "pious" and God's definition as revealed in David's prayer. Piety is a very misused word. God is not afraid of our hard questions -- we just have to listen to and understand the answer. The world expects us to be pious -- God expects us to be heavily into the world, just not of it, and honest with Him about it.
In this sense I mean they pray a bunch of pretty prayers they feel they "ought to" pray instead of what's really on their minds and in their hearts. God knows whether you mean it or not on what you pray. I guess i'm also talking about people who paste a smiley face on themselves when they're really boiling inside too. they're afraid to say "life sucks" when in fact it really does.
So you are saying the setting you are in is an important part of your prayer life, or are you only one to pray when you are alone and can shout at God if you feel like it?
Whatever gets you back on an even keel is sure to be a good thing, but I'd find it hard to think someone else has really had a rough go with things and they should be bawling as they pray, or yelling at the injustice they feel at it all instead of praying all pretty like they are doing.
To couple that prayer style with being able to pray in your own house, and being married and/or with kids, you are going to have to have a soundproofed prayer chamber room, or your wife's friends, or kids/their friends are in for some interesting learning about what really irks daddy and such. Kids don't associate yelling with love. Have you thought any about that?
OneJohn410
perhaps I can find away to get alone and pray like that if i choose to. perhaps kids don't associate yelling with love, but perhaps i also wouldn't want to teach them to wear a mask either. As a spiritual leader, I wouldn't want to teach my kids false piety either. Brother, should I then pray a bunch of pretty and pious prayers even if I don't mean them? Brother, they're are even people that kiss up to God in trying times just so God will make things better for them. let me ask you something, is that effective?
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RE: Ever pray this way before? - 9/16/2008 11:00:35 AM
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Knolt,
Of course we can get angry at God. So many guys are quoting Psalms, try reading Psalms 77. Asaph asks God have you forgotten me?, has your love disappeared?, has your promise failed? Of course not but it demonstrates we can ask God the tough questions. He is so big that He can handle our small complaints. And it says nothing about our relationship with him. Christ asked if the cup could pass Him. Was Jesus doubting the Father? No way, just that His emotions at the time made Him desire to not go the way of the cross.
When my only son passed in 2007 of lung cancer, I felt that I hated God, had lost all faith in Him, and it lasted a long time. During those times, I prayed just as you have been doing. But, the key to not staying in that dark place is not to continue to dwell on the negative, and to learn to praise God again. Our emotions are normal. My grief was normal and acceptable. As someone has said, even Jesus wept at Lazarus's death.
These "fiery trials" even work for good for us who love God and are his called people.
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RE: Ever pray this way before? - 9/16/2008 12:11:02 PM
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perhaps I can find away to get alone and pray like that if i choose to. perhaps kids don't associate yelling with love, but perhaps i also wouldn't want to teach them to wear a mask either. As a spiritual leader, I wouldn't want to teach my kids false piety either. Brother, should I then pray a bunch of pretty and pious prayers even if I don't mean them? Brother, they're are even people that kiss up to God in trying times just so God will make things better for them. let me ask you something, is that effective?
I'm not making light of expressing emotion in prayer. I'm suggesting that when a brother in Christ has a problem with how another person is praying, that the fault-finder has a problem. None of us know how to approach the Lord in prayer, and for that very reason He gave His disciples and believers today someone to be the middleman for us, so that we could be heard-- the Holy Spirit. That's not my opinion, that's Scripture. So, any piousness, prettiness, yelling, anger, whatever... there's no telling what of that is really heard at God's end. We are told the Spirit groans. We don't even know if God hears how we situate ourselves in prayer, or how many masks we are wearing, or what mood we are in- none of that. All that's stuff of earth, how we view how we are at the time of prayer. Now, in a group setting, where everyone drops their head to their feet and mumbles though a prayer where the group can't hear what is being said- to me, that's almost worthless time. I can say I almost despise that. It ain't pious, but it doesn't share the love, or what's being said, to where the same thing doesn't get prayed for ten times. A group prayer should be able to be heard by the whole group, and people should put a little air behind their words and not use a childlike voice. That I don't understand. I know what it is to hear emotionless prayer, and if that's all that is heard from some people, then sure, it could be a hard thing, especially if you are an emotional prayer.
I don't think God appreciates false piety, or masks of joy and contentment that cover over true feelings. I don't know what about today's society challenges Christians to be brutally honest with each other in prayer sessions, and feel like they've got to guard things. I don't think God appreciates any showboating in a group prayer setting either. But for masks, and nighttime prayers of children before bed and such, I wouldn't lead my kids in yelling anger at God in order to get rid of it before bed. When there's a Holy Spirit on the scene, He's really on the scene, and He's taking the whole picture to the Father. It doesn't matter if you are wearing 18 masks and just had your third Cabriolet totalled, and your wife is in poor health, and you've lost your job. Silently sobbing to yourself somewhere is going to be the same as walking around the empty house yelling why you.
I would really caution you to not be measuring the effectiveness of your own prayers, or anyone elses. That's a mighty stance to take- I prayed like this so this should have been the result. That, to me brother, really screams of some spiritual deception happening courtesy of liar and company.
That's pretty much it, in probably twice as many words as I may have needed to type. We've obviously got different thinking about things, and I'm no master prayer warrior. I'm in prayer for you, that you can find a means of praying in a way that you are comfortable without being judgemental of others. Please pray for me, that I be more trusting and open with others when a prayer circle time comes.
In Christ,
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RE: Ever pray this way before? - 9/22/2008 4:01:05 AM
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Wow. After reading the posts to this point (John O; post #17), I have to stop and thank God for reminders of His goodness, longsuffering, patience, and wisdom with us. I trust God will continue His good work He has begun in your heart and that your young daughter will learn some valuable truths of God's nature and character through the difficult life lessons.
God bless you, my brother.
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RE: Ever pray this way before? - 9/22/2008 9:59:52 AM
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John_O
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Thank you Steve.
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Psalms 46:10 Be still, and know that I am God: I will be exalted among the heathen, I will be exalted in the earth.
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RE: Ever pray this way before? - 9/23/2008 9:09:26 AM
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DaveW
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It's funny, well not really, how we think we need to inform God about what's already on our mind and heart. It is not so much about information as it is communication: Connecting and relating.
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