MAN BEHEADED ON GREYHOUND BUS!!! (Full Version)

All Forums >> [General] >> Current Events



Message

MyCatSmokey2006 -> MAN BEHEADED ON GREYHOUND BUS!!! (8/10/2008 10:48:11 PM)

PORTAGE LA PRAIRIE, Man. — A man was stabbed to death then beheaded on a Greyhound bus in an apparent random act of violence, according to an eyewitness.

All lanes of traffic on the Trans-Canada Highway remained closed Thursday morning west of Portage la Prairie as the RCMP investigated what they would only refer to as "a major incident" on the bus that was headed from Edmonton to Winnipeg.



HERE is the rest of the story.



I think I'll stay off Greyhound buses from now on, especially in Canada.



Neeva_Candida -> RE: MAN BEHEADED ON GREYHOUND BUS!!! (8/10/2008 11:49:58 PM)

Another irony to this story is that the bus line was going to launch a new advertising campaign the week following the incident. The tag line was something like "There's a reason you never hear of Bus Rage."

Obviously they decided to pull the advertising.

Bizarre.

~Neeva



aslouie -> RE: MAN BEHEADED ON GREYHOUND BUS!!! (8/11/2008 2:35:28 AM)

I actually heard about this news item a few weeks ago, and at first I thought it was just a stab and decapitation incident; it wasn't until much later that I've heard cannibalism was involved[:'(], and the identity of the killer is one Vince Li, who for the most part have no history concerning mental health.[8|]



earthless -> RE: MAN BEHEADED ON GREYHOUND BUS!!! (8/11/2008 8:12:43 AM)

This happened a week or two ago..... old news.

Is the left-leaning media still shying away from telling people the guy is a Muslim?



lexie -> RE: MAN BEHEADED ON GREYHOUND BUS!!! (8/11/2008 9:29:45 AM)

quote:

I think I'll stay off Greyhound buses from now on, especially in Canada.


Because it's now a weekly occurrence.

I'm not trying to be rude, and I know you meant no ill will the statement but this is something that has definitely rocked a lot of people in the country, and something that has deeply troubled myself over the last few weeks.

As for the advertising, it was a former ad campaign that had been pulled a week prior to this happening.

Also, many people who knew Vince Li prior to the incident thought he may have some sort of mental illness and encouraged him to seek help, which he wouldn't. This story is an example of how devastating mental illness can be, how it shouldn't be something to be ashamed of, and that people should indeed seek help.



its_GO_time -> RE: MAN BEHEADED ON GREYHOUND BUS!!! (8/11/2008 9:36:42 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: earthless

This happened a week or two ago..... old news.

Is the left-leaning media still shying away from telling people the guy is a Muslim?


Yes. That, and they are also afraid this will tarnish the Green Religous Movement, as they salivate over everyone being forced into public transportation, via high gas prices.



earthless -> RE: MAN BEHEADED ON GREYHOUND BUS!!! (8/11/2008 10:00:54 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: its_GO_time

quote:

ORIGINAL: earthless

This happened a week or two ago..... old news.

Is the left-leaning media still shying away from telling people the guy is a Muslim?


Yes. That, and they are also afraid this will tarnish the Green Religous Movement, as they salivate over everyone being forced into public transportation, via high gas prices.


And a third issue - their gun ban. Had someone on that bus been carrying, perhaps the beheaded man would still be alive. Instead of the criminal still being alive.



lexie -> RE: MAN BEHEADED ON GREYHOUND BUS!!! (8/11/2008 10:07:16 AM)

quote:

And a third issue - their gun ban. Had someone on that bus been carrying, perhaps the beheaded man would still be alive. Instead of the criminal still being alive.


Or the criminal could have brought a gun on the bus and more people could be dead.



earthless -> RE: MAN BEHEADED ON GREYHOUND BUS!!! (8/11/2008 10:12:02 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lexie

quote:

And a third issue - their gun ban. Had someone on that bus been carrying, perhaps the beheaded man would still be alive. Instead of the criminal still being alive.


Or the criminal could have brought a gun on the bus and more people could be dead.


Since when do criminals follow gun laws? And going on your scenario, even more reason for concealed carry for law abiding citizens.



lexie -> RE: MAN BEHEADED ON GREYHOUND BUS!!! (8/11/2008 10:16:55 AM)

quote:

And going on your scenario, even more reason for concealed carry for law abiding citizens.


I'm not arguing over our gun control laws, and while I agree with the above statement, I'm just pointing out that the man could most certainly have brought a gun on the bus as well, and harmed more people while they were sleeping. He had no criminal history or documented history of mental illness so he would have been able to get a gun legally under our laws.



earthless -> RE: MAN BEHEADED ON GREYHOUND BUS!!! (8/11/2008 10:31:38 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lexie

quote:

And going on your scenario, even more reason for concealed carry for law abiding citizens.


I'm not arguing over our gun control laws, and while I agree with the above statement, I'm just pointing out that the man could most certainly have brought a gun on the bus as well, and harmed more people while they were sleeping. He had no criminal history or documented history of mental illness so he would have been able to get a gun legally under our laws.


Again, the point is that criminals (those with intentions to harm, to commit crimes) do not care about gun laws nor do they adhere to them.

In the U.S. - the areas with the strictest gun control laws on the books are the very exact areas that have the highest gun crime. Heh.



huskarine -> RE: MAN BEHEADED ON GREYHOUND BUS!!! (8/11/2008 12:03:50 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: earthless

quote:

ORIGINAL: lexie

quote:

And going on your scenario, even more reason for concealed carry for law abiding citizens.


I'm not arguing over our gun control laws, and while I agree with the above statement, I'm just pointing out that the man could most certainly have brought a gun on the bus as well, and harmed more people while they were sleeping. He had no criminal history or documented history of mental illness so he would have been able to get a gun legally under our laws.


Again, the point is that criminals (those with intentions to harm, to commit crimes) do not care about gun laws nor do they adhere to them.

In the U.S. - the areas with the strictest gun control laws on the books are the very exact areas that have the highest gun crime. Heh.


well said!!! I want the freedom to defend myself in time...it beats the wait on the phone with 911...the only thing I would be able to get off to the operator would be "Ahhhh...he's decapitating me!!!"

that might be funny, but its rather disappointing. people that want gun control have probably never been attacked. and honestly, for those that do want gun control after being attacked...well, to them, they take flight over fight.

remember, the government CAN NOT stop the black market.



lexie -> RE: MAN BEHEADED ON GREYHOUND BUS!!! (8/11/2008 2:43:54 PM)

earthless - I do completely agree with you...I don't have strong feelings one way or the other about gun control. But we play under the assumption that if guns were permitted in such a way that one of the 35 people on the bus had a gun. Are there really that many people in the US that carry guns? (legitimate question, I'm curious what the statistics are.)

I know that criminals don't follow gun laws, lost a nephew to gun violence.

quote:

I want the freedom to defend myself in time...it beats the wait on the phone with 911...the only thing I would be able to get off to the operator would be "Ahhhh...he's decapitating me!!!"


Following what has happened here, I don't find the humour in that at all.



earthless -> RE: MAN BEHEADED ON GREYHOUND BUS!!! (8/11/2008 2:49:09 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lexie

Are there really that many people in the US that carry guns? (legitimate question, I'm curious what the statistics are.)


Lawfully or unlawfully?



MissInnocent -> RE: MAN BEHEADED ON GREYHOUND BUS!!! (8/11/2008 3:43:19 PM)

Forget guns, it bothers me that no one tried to tackle this guy or hit him with something (suitcase maybe) while he was standing there "calmly" stabbing this man. And then they stood by and watched as he cut the dude's head off. I'm thinking since no one bothered trying to stop the guy at all that even if they'd had a gun they'd stayed out of it. And it's quite sad. Thankfully I've never witnessed a crime but I like to think I'd try to do SOMETHING.



earthless -> RE: MAN BEHEADED ON GREYHOUND BUS!!! (8/11/2008 4:08:29 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: MissInnocent

Forget guns, it bothers me that no one tried to tackle this guy or hit him with something (suitcase maybe) while he was standing there "calmly" stabbing this man. And then they stood by and watched as he cut the dude's head off. I'm thinking since no one bothered trying to stop the guy at all that even if they'd had a gun they'd stayed out of it. And it's quite sad. Thankfully I've never witnessed a crime but I like to think I'd try to do SOMETHING.


Exactly - that is indeed the most troublesome thing. How can someone just sit there and not do anything at all to prevent the innocent from getting hurt?!

Though it does remind me of some self-professing Christians (and of a thread we had with them a week ago) where they say it is sinful to do anything physical. When asked if they would just sit there idly if their spouse and children were being attacked/killed at their grocery store's parking lot.. the response from those that advocate non-violence?

1) That they would just stand there and pray

and or

2) That God would never ever allow anything like that to happen to them



ta_mosquito -> RE: MAN BEHEADED ON GREYHOUND BUS!!! (8/11/2008 4:11:04 PM)

As I heard it, people DID try to band together to stop the guy, but he threatened them with the knife, too. If someone is stabbing someone else and then threatening YOU with a knife, I doubt you'd try to tackle him. And I doubt people had baseball bats or any other weapons with them that they could use on him.

They DID make sure he stayed on the bus, though, so that the police could apprehend him.



stampinlady -> RE: MAN BEHEADED ON GREYHOUND BUS!!! (8/11/2008 8:07:56 PM)

quote:

As I heard it, people DID try to band together to stop the guy, but he threatened them with the knife,


I was wondering about that. It's like something out of a horror movie.[:'(]



Ruthie -> RE: MAN BEHEADED ON GREYHOUND BUS!!! (8/11/2008 9:32:26 PM)

First of all, people didn't just stand around doing nothing, they tried to help. These people did their very best in a difficult situation, Earthless. Your contempt is uncalled for.

What gives? I always thought you were nice.



Neeva_Candida -> RE: MAN BEHEADED ON GREYHOUND BUS!!! (8/11/2008 9:38:23 PM)

A Muslim? Seriously?

Would an allah-fearing muslim take the chance that the person he is about to cannibalize has not actually eaten anything unclean thereby making himself unclean?

If the man that committed this crime had claimed to be a Christian what would we have said? Would not the muslim camp say the same?

~Neeva



earthless -> RE: MAN BEHEADED ON GREYHOUND BUS!!! (8/11/2008 9:47:45 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ruthie

First of all, people didn't just stand around doing nothing, they tried to help. These people did their very best in a difficult situation, Earthless. Your contempt is uncalled for.


Seeing that the man was still stabbed to death and then beheaded (which depending on the knife is not a such a swift process..) I cannot see how they allowed this to happen all the way.

I know that this is biased because I am a cop and hence would do all I could to prevent it.

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ruthie

What gives? I always thought you were nice.


No, I am not always nice. Lord knows I have many faults.



earthless -> RE: MAN BEHEADED ON GREYHOUND BUS!!! (8/11/2008 10:03:33 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Neeva_Candida

A Muslim? Seriously?

Would an allah-fearing muslim take the chance that the person he is about to cannibalize has not actually eaten anything unclean thereby making himself unclean?

If the man that committed this crime had claimed to be a Christian what would we have said? Would not the muslim camp say the same?

~Neeva


The point is that the media would have had a field day with this if he was a self-professing Christian. But because he is a Muslim, it is kept under wraps by those that wouldn't do so otherwise.



colliefan -> RE: MAN BEHEADED ON GREYHOUND BUS!!! (8/11/2008 10:56:08 PM)

Look what happened with the nut-case in Tenn. that shot up the church. Look at the mentions he had a number of right-wing books in his house.



John in the VW Bus -> RE: MAN BEHEADED ON GREYHOUND BUS!!! (8/11/2008 11:38:18 PM)

Can anyone provide proof that Li is a Muslim?



aslouie -> RE: MAN BEHEADED ON GREYHOUND BUS!!! (8/11/2008 11:51:33 PM)

The only sources that even gives a clear profile of Vince Li is this link from The Canadian Broadcasting Corporation:
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/story/2008/08/06/f-timeline-li.html

I don't recall anywhere here about Li's faith in anything, other than that of his common-law wife, Anna (who attends church). There was some other news blogs or what not, claiming that Li was a disgruntled, ex-employee of Wal-Mart, but I'm not giving it that much credence until there's more confirmation on this individual.



Page: [1] 2 3   next >   >>



Forum Software © ASPPlayground.NET Advanced Edition 2.5 ANSI