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RE: Angry with God - 8/13/2008 11:19:59 PM
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God does not condemn honest questions no matter how hard or awful. He is not shocked at anything we might say, think or feel. He knows all about it. That is why only the death of His sinless Son could pay our debt.
We cannot change other people...we can hardly change ourselves. Life can be very unfair...people we love can utterly betray us and we can reel over it for years while they go on seemingly unscathed.
These verses may help. And also understand that God does not direct people to do the evil things they do. Also, we are not sinless ourselves.
Understand that I know what you are talking about. You don't have to accept pat answers. God is more than able to answer you and He has seen all you have gone through.
"O God, you are my God, earnestly I seek you: my soul thirsts for you, my body longs for you, in a dry and weary land where there is no water."
Psalm 63: 1
"Trust in him at all times, O people; pour out your hearts to him, for God is our refuge." Psalm 61: 8
"Hear me, O God, as I voice my complaint; protect my life from the threat of the enemy. Hide me from the conspiracy of the wicked, from that noisy crowd of evildoers. They sharpen their tongues like swords and aim their words like deadly arrows. They shoot from ambush at the innocent man; they shoot at him suddenly, without fear. They encourage each other in evil plans, they talk about hiding their snares;" Psalm 64 and the rest of this Psalm is applicable.
You are not alone....the Bible is full of stories of intrigue and betrayal and murder and theft and just all that stuff that still goes on. This, is what people do and sometimes, Christians also.
This world will never be a 'fair' place to live. I have since talked with one in particular who 'betrayed' me and they just do not really understand what they did. From time to time the old feelings creep in...and I go over it and over it. But, and this is the change, I really do not want to go over it anymore, I want and do, to forgive from the heart.
I am reaching the conclusion that in this world we can never be 'satisfied' when it comes to 'seeing others get what we think they have coming."
Well, I could go on........but truly, there are those who do understand what you wrote and have been where you are. It is not funny and I pray that God would open the eyes of your understanding and create a hunger for Him that surpasses any hurt you have suffered. God bless and keep you.
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RE: Angry with God - 8/13/2008 11:24:18 PM
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What pleasure does God get from this? Does God know how angry I am towards him, and does he understand why or even care? Is He making me like this for a reason? How do I deal with this anger towards God?
What pleasure does He get? None. None whatsoever.
Does He know how angry and why? Yes. And I can promise that God does not have anything against you, and that He's not making your life miserable for His own "amusement".
God has a reason for everything He does, and I can't tell you what that reason is. I do know this. As hard as it is, the best course of action is to trust that He knows best and that He loves you personally and intently. He does.
How do you deal with anger of any kind toward anyone? Pray. Pray when you don't feel like praying. But when you pray remember that you're praying to your Creator and He loves you.
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RE: Angry with God - 8/14/2008 1:08:47 AM
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What does one do when they're angry with God to the point where they don't even feel like praying to Him? For quite some time now, I've dealt with this. I hate many things that he's brought down into my life, and I'm almost at the point where I think He finds this funny or enjoys making life difficult and/or painful for me. Its come to the point where some nights I lay in bed thinking about things that have happened to me over the past decade or so. I think about dreams that have been crushed, people who have hurt me and never paid for it, stress that I've been put under, areas where I've been treated unfairly or seen friends/family hurt by others where I couldn't do anything... and just tell God how much I hate Him. I know that its wrong to do that, and I always ask for forgiveness afterwards. I try to forgive other's but the memories and feelings always come back. its like I can't get rid of the anger towards them, and that leads towards more frustration towards God?
What pleasure does God get from this? Does God know how angry I am towards him, and does he understand why or even care? Is He making me like this for a reason? How do I deal with this anger towards God?
You have a serious case of what Chuck Swindoll calls, "Ingrown Eyeballs." The cure is to take your eyes off yourself and look out to the needs and hurts of others. That is where you will find healing and restoration for what ails you...
10 If you extend your soul to the hungry And satisfy the afflicted soul, Then your light shall dawn in the darkness, And your darkness shall be as the noonday. 11 The Lord will guide you continually, And satisfy your soul in drought, And strengthen your bones; You shall be like a watered garden, And like a spring of water, whose waters do not fail. -Isaiah 58
Oh, and btw, if you'd spend as much time focusing on all the ways God has blessed you as you have on the ways you perceive He has failed you, you likely would never have posted this.
WOW,
can someone say clanging cymbal or resounding gong?
My friend, The Lord loves you, and knows all your feelings whether your expressing them to him or not.
I agree with the earlier post that says God wants you to be honest with him.
And he doesnt leave us empty handed on the issue of dealing with problems in our lives.
Go to his Word and look up the very first chapter of James verses 2 thru 18,it will explain why God allows problems in our lives,also see Hebrews 12 verses 4 thru 11 for more confirmation and 1 Peter chapter 1 verses 6-9.
If you read these 3 passages which will only take about 5 minutes or so you will see that just because we are going thru trials doesnt mean that God is ignoring us.
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RE: Angry with God - 8/14/2008 10:38:16 AM
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I think about dreams that have been crushed, people who have hurt me and never paid for it, stress that I've been put under, areas where I've been treated unfairly or seen friends/family hurt by others where I couldn't do anything...
Just an observation: sounds to me like a lot of the things that happened to Jesus while He was on this earth. If nothing else, this should lead you to realise that He really does understand, because He has been there....
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RE: Angry with God - 8/14/2008 1:40:07 PM
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TorchHeart, do you pray for these people?
I've tried praying for them.
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RE: Angry with God - 8/14/2008 4:02:49 PM
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What does one do when they're angry with God to the point where they don't even feel like praying to Him? For quite some time now, I've dealt with this. I hate many things that he's brought down into my life, and I'm almost at the point where I think He finds this funny or enjoys making life difficult and/or painful for me. Its come to the point where some nights I lay in bed thinking about things that have happened to me over the past decade or so. I think about dreams that have been crushed, people who have hurt me and never paid for it, stress that I've been put under, areas where I've been treated unfairly or seen friends/family hurt by others where I couldn't do anything... and just tell God how much I hate Him. I know that its wrong to do that, and I always ask for forgiveness afterwards. I try to forgive other's but the memories and feelings always come back. its like I can't get rid of the anger towards them, and that leads towards more frustration towards God?
What pleasure does God get from this? Does God know how angry I am towards him, and does he understand why or even care? Is He making me like this for a reason? How do I deal with this anger towards God?
You have a serious case of what Chuck Swindoll calls, "Ingrown Eyeballs." The cure is to take your eyes off yourself and look out to the needs and hurts of others. That is where you will find healing and restoration for what ails you...
10 If you extend your soul to the hungry And satisfy the afflicted soul, Then your light shall dawn in the darkness, And your darkness shall be as the noonday. 11 The Lord will guide you continually, And satisfy your soul in drought, And strengthen your bones; You shall be like a watered garden, And like a spring of water, whose waters do not fail. -Isaiah 58
Oh, and btw, if you'd spend as much time focusing on all the ways God has blessed you as you have on the ways you perceive He has failed you, you likely would never have posted this.
WOW,
can someone say clanging cymbal or resounding gong?
Oh, how so? How loving is it to commisurate with someone who has anger towards the One who suffered horrendous torture and death on a cross in order to save them from an eternity in hell...the One who has loved them with an everlasting love...the One who forgave them when they didn't deserve His forgiveness?
I see threads on this subject often. When did it become acceptable to be angry with the King of Kings and the Lord of Lords who deserves nothing but our complete reverence, awe, worship, devotion and respect?
It is a sin to be angry at God. Is it loving to allow a brother or sister to continue in their sin without exhorting him/her to turn from it?
Would it also be loving to allow him/her to continue in their unforgiveness for others when the Bible tells us...14 "For if you forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you. 15 But if you do not forgive men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses." -Matthew 6
Should we just stand by and watch as a brother/siste continues in behaviors and attitudes that take him/her away from the Lord without exhorting them?
17 "This I say, therefore, and testify in the Lord, that you should no longer walk as the rest of the Gentiles walk, in the futility of their mind, 18 having their understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God, because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart; 19 who, being past feeling, have given themselves over to lewdness, to work all uncleanness with greediness. 20 But you have not so learned Christ, 21 if indeed you have heard Him and have been taught by Him, as the truth is in Jesus: 22 that you put off, concerning your former conduct, the old man which grows corrupt according to the deceitful lusts, 23 and be renewed in the spirit of your mind, 24 and that you put on the new man which was created according to God, in true righteousness and holiness. 25 Therefore, putting away lying, "Let each one of you speak truth with his neighbor," for we are members of one another. 26 "Be angry, and do not sin": do not let the sun go down on your wrath, 27 nor give place to the devil. 28 Let him who stole steal no longer, but rather let him labor, working with his hands what is good, that he may have something to give him who has need. 29 Let no corrupt word proceed out of your mouth, but what is good for necessary edification, that it may impart grace to the hearers. 30 And do not grieve the Holy Spirit of God, by whom you were sealed for the day of redemption. 31 Let all bitterness, wrath, anger, clamor, and evil speaking be put away from you, with all malice. 32 And be kind to one another, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, just as God in Christ forgave you." -Ephesians 4
No, the Bible is clear...
"13 but exhort one another daily, while it is called "Today," lest any of you be hardened through the deceitfulness of sin." -Hebrews 3
Exhort: To urge by strong, often stirring argument, admonition, advice, or appeal
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RE: Angry with God - 8/14/2008 4:18:46 PM
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It is a sin to be angry at God.
Could I ask you for the verses you're looking at to support that, Kat?
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RE: Angry with God - 8/14/2008 6:26:33 PM
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It is a sin to be angry at God.
Could I ask you for the verses you're looking at to support that, Kat?
I know you asked Kat, but here's a good verse that supports that.
A Pharisee asked Jesus, ""Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" Jesus replied in Matthew 22:37, "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind."
I suppose we can agree that violating a command of God is a sin, correct?
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RE: Angry with God - 8/14/2008 6:47:28 PM
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It is a sin to be angry at God.
Could I ask you for the verses you're looking at to support that, Kat?
I know you asked Kat, but here's a good verse that supports that.
A Pharisee asked Jesus, ""Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" Jesus replied in Matthew 22:37, "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind."
I suppose we can agree that violating a command of God is a sin, correct?
Exactly the verse I was going to give, Armydude. How can one fulfill the greatest commandment while being mad at God?
Not to mention the verse in Ephesians that I gave above... that it is a sin to let the sun set on your anger. So, if you are not permitted to go to bed angry with people who are imperfect and can do things to make us angry; how then could you allow your anger to continue unchecked towards God Who is perfect and just and that not be sin?
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RE: Angry with God - 8/14/2008 6:57:12 PM
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I would like to add that whether it's a sin to be angry with God or not, I don't think you're going to get far by pointing out sins. I believe the best course of action is to remind the OP that God loves us personally and intently.
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RE: Angry with God - 8/14/2008 7:08:18 PM
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It is a sin to be angry at God.
Could I ask you for the verses you're looking at to support that, Kat?
I'm not for sure if there is a bible verse that says it's a sin to be angry with God. I do know Hebrews says without faith it's impossible to please Him. Is this what you mean?
I'll be honest with you, torch. I too was angry with God probably around 5 years ago. I was unemployed and in trouble with Bills. But of course, God got me through it. God convicted me, not of being angry at Him, but having a lack of faith in Him. It wasn't my anger that bothered Him, it was my lack of faith. Of course, I felt bad about blaming Him for everything, but He blew that off and concentrated on my faith. Cool, huh?
I do know that God understands you, torch, more than you will ever know. He knows what's going on inside of you and the root of this anger and LONGS, DESIRES, overwhelmingly to help you out of this. Remember, Jesus is your shepherd, counselor, best friend, Savior and God. This stuff breaks His heart more than yours and more than you will ever know. I have a feeling, torch, that you've gone through hell and back in handbasket and bought the T-shirt to boot. Talk to someone, torch, get this junk out of you. Hang in there, kiddo. :) God brought you here b/c He does care and wants to help you.
And please, remember, God is Insanely, deliriously, completely, overwelmingly (lots af ly adverbs, huh?) in love with you, more than you could ever know or even fathom. Let Him help you, it's His only wish!! :)
Here's some verses to prove He cares for you:
See, I have engraved you on the palms of my hands;
your walls are ever before me. Is 49:16
But now, this is what the LORD says—
he who created you, Jacob,
he who formed you, Israel:
"Do not fear, for I have redeemed you;
I have summoned you by name; you are mine.
2 When you pass through the waters,
I will be with you;
and when you pass through the rivers,
they will not sweep over you.
When you walk through the fire,
you will not be burned;
the flames will not set you ablaze. Is 43:2-3
The LORD your God is with you,
the Mighty Warrior who saves.
He will take great delight in you;
in his love he will no longer rebuke you,
but will rejoice over you with singing." Zeph 3:17
Are you getting the picture? Get some help, torch. God carry you through this, but you have to let Him. :)
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RE: Angry with God - 8/14/2008 7:38:27 PM
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It is a sin to be angry at God.
Could I ask you for the verses you're looking at to support that, Kat?
I know you asked Kat, but here's a good verse that supports that.
A Pharisee asked Jesus, ""Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" Jesus replied in Matthew 22:37, "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind."
I suppose we can agree that violating a command of God is a sin, correct?
Exactly the verse I was going to give, Armydude. How can one fulfill the greatest commandment while being mad at God?
Not to mention the verse in Ephesians that I gave above... that it is a sin to let the sun set on your anger. So, if you are not permitted to go to bed angry with people who are imperfect and can do things to make us angry; how then could you allow your anger to continue unchecked towards God Who is perfect and just and that not be sin?
Apparently, you wouldn't know, nor would you care, thus why bother explaining it?
You're welcome to your opinions, Kat, and I thank you for your time and help. But I'm welcome to mine, as well, and you're doing a very nice job of reinforcing some of them.
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RE: Angry with God - 8/14/2008 7:38:32 PM
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I would like to add that whether it's a sin to be angry with God or not, I don't think you're going to get far by pointing out sins. I believe the best course of action is to remind the OP that God loves us personally and intently.
We'll have to disagree on that. Just to tell someone God loves them and not exhort them concerning what is sinful about what they are doing would be in opposition to the Scriptures I quoted in post 58.
As a Biblical counselor, if I had a woman who was living in sin with her boyfriend, my counsel wouldn't benefit her if I just told her God loved her and ignored the sin that was separating her from the God that loves her, would it?
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RE: Angry with God - 8/14/2008 7:40:12 PM
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Scratch it. I'm going to hold off and bite my tongue. I promised someone I wouldn't go down that road.
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RE: Angry with God - 8/14/2008 7:43:52 PM
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Scratch it. I'm going to hold off and bite my tongue. I promised someone I wouldn't go down that road.
I would like to apologize for the harsh tone of some posts. I can say though without a doubt that God loves you. You say that it's hard to see it. Sometimes it's hard to see it for me too. But it's true.
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RE: Angry with God - 8/14/2008 7:45:24 PM
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A Pharisee asked Jesus, ""Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" Jesus replied in Matthew 22:37, "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind."
I believe it is possible to be angry with God and still love Him.
Just as it is possible for my children to be angry with me and still love me. When my children are angry with me, I encourage them to come to me and talk to me about how they feel. I believe God is the same. I believe that the kind of anger that is dangerous is the kind where the person goes and hides and dwells on it. But the kind of anger where the person goes to God and beats their fists on His chest before collapsing into tears and falling into His embrace is healthy and wholesome. And I don't believe God minds that kind at all.
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RE: Angry with God - 8/14/2008 7:48:32 PM
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A Pharisee asked Jesus, ""Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" Jesus replied in Matthew 22:37, "Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind."
I believe it is possible to be angry with God and still love Him.
True. Not likely IMO, but true.
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RE: Angry with God - 8/14/2008 7:53:07 PM
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True. Not likely IMO, but true.
Why not likely?
I've been there and I'm nothing out of the ordinary.
My atheist father was diagnosed with cancer at 6pm on a Friday night. I was going to visit him the next day (it would have involved a drive, a ferry crossing and another drive). He died at 1am Saturday mornng. Believe me, I was angry with God. I didn't understand why He couldn't have made sure my dad held on just long enough for me to see him and pray for him.
God was gracious to me, He didn't condemn me for it.
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RE: Angry with God - 8/14/2008 8:05:33 PM
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God is truly gracious to us. Thankfully He doesn't wipe us out when we get mad at Him.
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RE: Angry with God - 8/14/2008 10:39:56 PM
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Shall we then lie and declare to God that we are not angry with Him when nothing is hidden from Him? I think that when people are so adamant as to tell others what they should believe........without being that person.....that perhaps their own beliefs are shaky without reaffirment of what they already know.
I do not understand why some of us have to go through what we do, but we do, and the last thing needed is a good whack upside the head with the Bible. It is the Bible that has caused the turmoil in the first place! It is our belief in a God who loves us and yet 'lets' all these bad things happen to us, that causes the questions.............
In the end, God is God........as per Job.....though He slay me, yet shall I love Him.......apparently God did not think too highly of Job's comforters either, so don't worry. Some people get very mad....more because it questions their own beliefs than anything else. You cannot loose God. Nothing can separate you from the love of God.
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RE: Angry with God - 8/15/2008 12:02:04 PM
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I think the thing that really changed my deep anger with God about ten years ago was the realization (after reading Disappointment with God, BTW) that God is blameless. No matter how much I tried to pin things on him, the truth was, nothing stuck. He is absolutely perfect and blameless. By realizing that, I understood that if I were going to assign blame to someone, it had to be me.
It was a long and hard road back from that anger, but for me, it started at that point. I pray that you come to a point where you can begin to understand his absolute goodness. He is the definition of GOODNESS and as such, cannot be held accountable for anything we lay on him now. Once upon a time, he selflessly took the blame for humanity's sin, but he's already paid that price. Done. Finito.
Best wishes.
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RE: Angry with God - 8/15/2008 12:19:11 PM
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You must say to yourself: "I'll no longer let those people who hurt me continue to do so. To hell with them. (Sorry for swearing). I'll get up, take a deep breath, and start a new life as from now."
Of course the memories will be there. When they come to mind say: "**** those people. (Sorry for swearing again). I will definetly not let them hurt me again and get me back into the infinite spiral of hate and hurt." mvic, in my post that I wrote yesterday (and then botched up by later overwriting it), you were one of the people that I specifically said I agreed with in this thread.
However, with the above, I am going to respectfully disagree with you.
How is damning someone to hell an edifiying thing to do? Or how is saying whatever it was you said in the second paragraph edifying? Even if these things are simply thought and no other human being ever knows about it, Our Lord knows, and the person who thought or said them knows.
To me, those types of things only strengthen someone's resolve to stay bitter and also further stirs up the hurt, anger or hatred that someone may be feeling towards a person. Our words and our thoughts are powerful weapons; both towards others and towards ourself. Our words and our thoughts feed our soul. We can choose to nourish our soul or we can choose to destroy it.
In that post that I goofed up yesterday, I suggested to TorchHeart to pray blessings into the people's lives.
I speak from experience. It is impossible to continually harbor angry, bitter or hurt feelings towards someone if I am truly praying for them. Likewise, when I don't practice this, the anger, the bitterness and the hurt can multiply itself quicker than anything; and before I know it, I'm in a big mess.
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RE: Angry with God - 8/15/2008 12:55:24 PM
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mvic
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Hi Sharon-Marie,
You are right. Damning those people is not an edifying thing to do. It is wrong. And God knows it is wrong. So why did I say it?
I've often been accused of being pragmatic, practical, almost clinical in my outlook. And that's what I'm doing here.
We have a situation where an individual has been hurt so much that he hates passionately (perhaps with good reason) those who hurt him all those years ago. And he's also angry at God for allowing this and other things to happen. If I read the situation correctly, I believe TorchHeart may even need professional help to get him out of this vicious circle of hatred, bitterness, hurt and pain.
I and others have tried to say that God loves him, and that he should forgive. Both statements of course being true.
His replies to our posts do not seem to have met with success. He shows he still bitter. The hurt really runs deep.
Of course God can help him move on. But the first step MUST come from him (TorchHeart). On a practical level, he should say: "away with those demons from my past" (I hope that is milder than my previous swearing, for which I beg your forgiveness | | |
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