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pinopolitan -> In what sense is Jesus a lamb? (8/2/2008 7:41:20 AM)

And in what sense is He a lion?




rcjames -> RE: In what sense is Jesus a lamb? (8/2/2008 9:37:14 AM)

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ORIGINAL: pinopolitan

And in what sense is He a lion?


Lamb;

(Rev 5:12) Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.

Lion;

(Rev 19:11) And I saw heaven opened, and behold a white horse; and he that sat upon him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness he doth judge and make war.

(Rev 19:12) His eyes were as a flame of fire, and on his head were many crowns; and he had a name written, that no man knew, but he himself.

(Rev 19:13) And he was clothed with a vesture dipped in blood: and his name is called The Word of God.

(Rev 19:14) And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

(Rev 19:15) And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.

(Rev 19:16) And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, KING OF KINGS, AND LORD OF LORDS.


Thanks
RC




Covaan_Meshuga -> RE: In what sense is Jesus a lamb? (8/2/2008 10:17:32 AM)

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(Rev 5:12) Saying with a loud voice, Worthy is the Lamb that was slain to receive power, and riches, and wisdom, and strength, and honour, and glory, and blessing.

I have such an emotional response to that verse every time I read it. My heart feels like it skips a beat, then I automatically start singing,
Worthy is the Lamb that was slain,
Worthy is the Lamb that was slain,
Worthy is the Lamb that was slain
To receive
Power and riches and wisdom and strength
Honor and glory and blessing;
Worthy is the Lamb,
Worthy is the Lamb,
Worthy is the Lamb that was slain,
Worthy is the Lamb.

What a verse! Praise G-d!

Just to add to what RC wrote, His being the Lamb goes back to The Beginning, even before G-d made clothes for Adam and Chavah and before He promised them to send them a Savior who would wound satan and be wounded Himself for the sins of the people.

From the beginning of sacrifices, every time the people sacrificed a perfect male lamb, their thoughts were on the coming Messiah. They placed their hands on its head, passing symbolically their sin to that lamb, then they held its head as it was killed. Those who stood by watched, and they all understood as that lamb was sacrificed before G-d.

Then He showed Himself in our history, coming as a child, growing up to know who His Father is, and laying down His life for our sins, as the lamb before the shearers does not protest. But unlike the common lamb, He arose in victory over the death and the gave, showing Himself to be victorious. He is fierce in the battle for us over sin, and in the Scripture RC quoted, He will be fierce in judgment.




BerianAardvark -> RE: In what sense is Jesus a lamb? (8/2/2008 10:50:09 AM)

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ORIGINAL: pinopolitan

And in what sense is He a lion?


References to the Messiah as a lamb go way back in prophecy:

He was oppressed and He was afflicted, Yet He did not open His mouth; Like a lamb that is led to slaughter, And like a sheep that is silent before its shearers, So He did not open His mouth. (Isaiah 53:7)

(Acts 8:32-34 references this verse as prophesy regarding Christ.)


This is the first reference to the word Lamb in the Bible:

Isaac spoke to Abraham his father and said, "My father!" And he said, "Here I am, my son." And he said, "Behold, the fire and the wood, but where is the lamb for the burnt offering?" Abraham said, "God will provide for Himself the lamb for the burnt offering, my son." So the two of them walked on together. (Genesis 22:7-8)

And the first (in the KJV) New Testament:

The next day he *saw Jesus coming to him and *said, "Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world! (John 1:29)


In many other translations they translate πάσχα pascha the Passover (which refers to the meal, the day, the festival and the special sacrifices connected with it) as the Passover lamb. Which puts Mark 14:12 and Luke 22:7 as the first mention of lamb in the New Testament.

The King James translates it as just Passover, a bit more accurate translation though the context does make it plain that the Passover lamb is what is being referred to.

On the first day of Unleavened Bread, when the Passover lamb was being sacrificed, His disciples *said to Him, "Where do You want us to go and prepare for You to eat the Passover?" (Mark 14:12)

(the better translations grey out or otherwise indicate that the word lamb is inserted by the translators to for clarity.)

The Lamb of God refers basically to Jesus’ role as the propitiating (atoning) sacrifice. (Romans 3:25; Hebrews 2:17; 1 John 2:2; 4:10).

References to Jesus as a lion are references to his majesty, courage, strength, and are indicative of royalty.

"The Lion of the tribe of Judah," Re 5:5, is Jesus Christ, who sprung from the tribe of Judah and the race of David, and overcame death, the world, and the devil.

Tim

edited to reference to Mark 14:12 Luke 22:7 where πάσχα pascha is translated Passover lamb in most translations.




Cloak -> RE: In what sense is Jesus a lamb? (8/2/2008 8:06:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pinopolitan

And in what sense is He a lion?


I believe here it symbolized His strength that Jesus is as strong as a lion; yet as meek and docile as a lamb.




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