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faithwalkingmom -> the smelling of smoke and satan/demons (7/14/2008 12:16:06 PM)

I wasn't sure where to post this in the first place so if I have miss posted please feel free to move this to where it belongs.

This happened last night and it was the first time we had this happen to us but I had heard stories of it happening to other Christians. We were sitting in our dining room at our computers when my husband asked me it I had smelled smoke. I didn't from where I was at but I got up and I didn't walk a foot and a half before I was met with the smell of smoldering wood, not burning wood like in a fireplace and I got goosebumps all over my arm. My spirit was just screming at me that something wasn't right about this. I wasn't afraid of a physical fire that scaried me, it was something else. We checked each of the computers to see it that was the problem and all over the house upstairs and down but we didnt smell it anywhere but in the archway that is in between the living room and dining room. The smell wasn't in the living room at all but if you stood in the archway you smelled smoke. We called the fire dept just in case it was in the walls somewhere and they gave us the all clear. After they left we didn't smell it anymore and the firemen never did smell it even though we both smelled it while they were there.

Now I heard it that sometimes when satan/demons are present they can smell like smoke but I have never encountered that. The house we live in is about 85 yr old and we are both Christians for a long time. I have the gift of discerning spirits and there wasn't a good spirit in that archway last night. After the fire dept left I went to our bedroom and put a hedge of protection around our home and drove away any spirits that didn't belong there.

Am I'm a wrong in what I thougt about this smell? Some say it could be the sweet fragrance of God but there was nothing sweet bout this smoky ordor. What are your thoughts on what I have experienced?



JimboFletch -> RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons (7/14/2008 12:20:21 PM)

The biblical gift of discerning spirits is to discern if a PERSON, not a disembodied entity, is of God or demon origin.



dianetavegia -> RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons (7/14/2008 12:35:00 PM)

Satan or demons smelling of smoke is not scriptural. I'd bet they'd quicker smell like some Victoria Secret perfume than smoke.



PromiseLander -> RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons (7/14/2008 1:11:21 PM)

Faithwalkingmom:

With all due respect, your post bothers me in a few respoects...

#1) No one is in hell at this moment - only until Jesus judges the lost at the great White Throne Judgement will death and hades be throne into the lake of fire, spirits of humans that are bound for that abode are in a "holding cell" (for lack of a better term) at the moment. (See "Sheol")
#2) Hell is not nor will it ever be ruled by satan or demons. Hell is a punishment for them as well as punishment for the spirits of people who believe not on the Lord Jesus Christ, and from Hell there is no escape. Therefore if you DID smell smoke, it was not because of a being that had come from hell - there is no coming back from that place once sent.
#3) Demons and satan DO exist, and although they are intelligent, they are not wise - for they oppose God and all that He loves. Because these demons would have you stumble at any price, they can play on false teachings that you may have heard in order to cause fear within you; in this case, the smell of smoke.

You say that you "put a hedge of protection around" your home. Friend, YOU do not have the power to do such a thing - I realize that may not be exactly what you meant, but details are important. Examine your life and your lifestyle. Are you doing anything that could allow a demon to gain a stronghold in your life? Pray to Jesus for strength, guidance, and protection. Always choose to grow closer to Jesus, and evil does not have a leg to stand on.



DaveW -> RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons (7/14/2008 1:18:18 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: JimboFletch

The biblical gift of discerning spirits is to discern if a PERSON, not a disembodied entity, is of God or demon origin.
Chapter and verse please?



DaveW -> RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons (7/14/2008 1:23:12 PM)

The enemy loves to harass us. In Daniel it says he "wears down the saints of the most High."

This could be harassment, or it could be your imaginations. In either case, the first thing to do is pray. Not bind the devil, not assign warrior angles as a hedge of protection, etc. Pray for guidance from God; ask what HE is trying to say to you.

The devil is an enemy kept on a short leash. He can do nothing without God's permission (see Job, Peter's denial) and as such, can only harrass us with HIS permission.

Don't freak out at the devil. I heard one pastor say that if you are scared of the devil you have a too-little God and a too-big devil. You need to swap places. BIG God and little devil.



SusieQ567 -> RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons (7/15/2008 1:10:23 PM)

One of the enemies favorite things is to pull us into wondering about things. We have been giving power and authority to tread on serpents and scorpions..so....Faith, when you sensed something not right...that's all we have to do. It's kind of the same things the terrorists do, make terror. Dont' give the enemy any more of your time or thought on this, yes, some supernatural things can have accompanied weirdness sometimes, but we don't have to worry about that part. God is smart eh? If there's something else He wants you to know, He'll tell you.:) Don't be entertainment for the enemy. Be at peace in the rest He's given us.



SavedByGraceMD -> RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons (7/15/2008 3:09:13 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: SusieQ567

One of the enemies favorite things is to pull us into wondering about things. We have been giving power and authority to tread on serpents and scorpions..so....Faith, when you sensed something not right...that's all we have to do. It's kind of the same things the terrorists do, make terror. Dont' give the enemy any more of your time or thought on this, yes, some supernatural things can have accompanied weirdness sometimes, but we don't have to worry about that part. God is smart eh? If there's something else He wants you to know, He'll tell you.:) Don't be entertainment for the enemy. Be at peace in the rest He's given us.

I like that. Don't be entertainment for the enemy. When I read that, I could see the minions rolling around laughing at how high we can jump.

It is easy to say at times, and we know this to be true, but sometimes it is not so easy to actually do. Be at peace in the rest He has given us. Be still and know that He is God. Sounds simple. Yet we still tend to jump[sm=funny.gif], when satan [sm=fireanger.gif]says boo[sm=icon_smile_cold.gif].[sm=shocked.gif][sm=eek.gif]



jennycnails -> RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons (7/15/2008 11:07:44 PM)

I've heard demons or people who have experienced a dark force smell sulfur. People who have been in devil worshiping cults know this.



OneJohn410 -> RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons (7/15/2008 11:31:13 PM)

Hi Faithwalkingmom,

After a nice rain storm, I can smell a wet wood-burning fireplace 10' away, and they really stink. I am wondering if you have a fireplace at your home, and if you do, if there's any signs of it being damp? Perhaps even walk over to it and open up the 'storm doors' and see if what you smelled came from there. A wet fireplace, and the house A/C working hard at pulling out humidity may have drawn that odor across the room- and why would anyone think this would be happening since there's no fire in it, but it does. I post this only because I know of that stink, and it's one that isn't everywhere in the room but is one that can just about knock someone down when they don't expect it.

I'm glad there was no electrical fire inside a wall or anything like that.

OneJohn410



JesusFan -> RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons (7/16/2008 11:58:01 AM)

You say that you "put a hedge of protection around" your home. Friend, YOU do not have the power to do such a thing - I realize that may not be exactly what you meant, but details are important. Examine your life and your lifestyle. Are you doing anything that could allow a demon to gain a stronghold in your life? Pray to Jesus for strength, guidance, and protection. Always choose to grow closer to Jesus, and evil does not have a leg to stand on.

Well, I'm sure what she meant was that she prayed to God to put the hedge of protection around the house. And there is certainly nothing wrong with doing this, if you happen to smell, or sense, something that isn't right. God will always protect us from evil.



bluestone -> RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons (7/16/2008 3:04:23 PM)

Sometimes old houses have funky smells that come out at different seasons or weather conditions.

Is it possible that someone in your house was sneaking around smoking? teenager, etc? My cousin used to go up to his attic to smoke, but his parents followed the smell and caught him.



bluestone -> RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons (7/16/2008 3:10:05 PM)

You may want to get an independant house inspector to check it out.
In case the fire dept. missed something.



earthless -> RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons (7/16/2008 3:10:16 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: PromiseLander

Faithwalkingmom:

With all due respect, your post bothers me in a few respoects...

#1) No one is in hell at this moment - only until Jesus judges the lost at the great White Throne Judgement will death and hades be throne into the lake of fire, spirits of humans that are bound for that abode are in a "holding cell" (for lack of a better term) at the moment. (See "Sheol")
#2) Hell is not nor will it ever be ruled by satan or demons. Hell is a punishment for them as well as punishment for the spirits of people who believe not on the Lord Jesus Christ, and from Hell there is no escape. Therefore if you DID smell smoke, it was not because of a being that had come from hell - there is no coming back from that place once sent.
#3) Demons and satan DO exist, and although they are intelligent, they are not wise - for they oppose God and all that He loves. Because these demons would have you stumble at any price, they can play on false teachings that you may have heard in order to cause fear within you; in this case, the smell of smoke.

You say that you "put a hedge of protection around" your home. Friend, YOU do not have the power to do such a thing - I realize that may not be exactly what you meant, but details are important. Examine your life and your lifestyle. Are you doing anything that could allow a demon to gain a stronghold in your life? Pray to Jesus for strength, guidance, and protection. Always choose to grow closer to Jesus, and evil does not have a leg to stand on.


Excellent post - quality.

As to the OP - it seems someone has been reading & believing 'Pigs in the Parlor' type materials. People who see demons in everything from stuffed animals to cans of Pepsi.



CoeurdeLeon_ -> RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons (7/16/2008 3:37:47 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bluestone

Sometimes old houses have funky smells that come out at different seasons or weather conditions.

Is it possible that someone in your house was sneaking around smoking? teenager, etc? My cousin used to go up to his attic to smoke, but his parents followed the smell and caught him.

Additionally, if there was ever a fire in that house (not a fireplace fire, a house-fire) that smoke smell is locked into the studs forevermore and certain atmospheric conditions will bring it out.



JimboFletch -> RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons (7/16/2008 3:43:00 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: CoeurdeLeon

quote:

ORIGINAL: bluestone

Sometimes old houses have funky smells that come out at different seasons or weather conditions.

Is it possible that someone in your house was sneaking around smoking? teenager, etc? My cousin used to go up to his attic to smoke, but his parents followed the smell and caught him.

Additionally, if there was ever a fire in that house (not a fireplace fire, a house-fire) that smoke smell is locked into the studs forevermore and certain atmospheric conditions will bring it out.

Not to mention that hubby might be a secret pipe, cigar, or cigarette smoker!
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bluestone -> RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons (7/16/2008 3:46:10 PM)

In situations like this, I think an appropriate adage is:
"When you hear hoof beats, think horses, not zebras".



phosadaud -> RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons (7/16/2008 3:57:13 PM)

Ro 8:15 - For you did not receive a spirit that makes you a slave again to fear, but you received the Spirit of sonship. And by him we cry, "Abba, Father."

First - Pray. God knows what's going on and you needn't fear. satan has no authority over you.

Second - There are so many reasons to smell smoke and 99% of them have nothing to do with demons. Check it out. Smoke is a powerful smell. Where I live, sometimes you can smell smoke from forest fires hundreds of miles away. Or the neighbor 3 houses down, smoking on his back porch or bbq-ing.

Third - the mind can play tricks. I'm not saying this to dismiss your experience - I am speaking from experience. It's kind of like when you are talking with friends about creepy crawly bugs and all the sudden you start getting itches all over. When we get hyped up and scared, we can misinterpret what our senses our telling us.

So, rest in the Lord. If you still smell it, get someone who is uninvolved to check it out. And know that NOTHING can separate us from the love of God.

Romans 8:38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.



jstbeliev -> RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons (7/16/2008 4:13:20 PM)

Promiselander:

Your reply bothers me. Very often people tend to resort to the "Jobs' friends syndrome". What is that? That is when people accuse you of some "hidden" sin when something out of the ordinary occurs. Why would there necessarily have to be something wrong with her lifestyle for something strange to happen? I think that this is a very immature statement. And since it didn't happen to you and you can't bring any relevant information to substantiate her statments, your comment, rather your opinion is just that...your opinion.

I, on the other hand, have heard from real people about this very thing happening. And yes, they have smelled smoke, like sulfur. Yes, it was inexplicable and very unnerving but it was real and these were real warriors for Christ without any "hidden sins or lifestyles". Sometimes the things in the spirit realm manifest into the natural. Example: In the book of Daniel...the handwriting on the wall. Do you think that that was a real occurrence or mere conjecture? How about when Peter saw Elijah &I Moses on the Mount? Real or imagined? Too many believers are too quick to shoot down what God reveals thus causing another to stumble or secondguess? And that is not the wise thing to do. For even as satan disguises himself as an angel of light, so do believers swiftly put down what they do not understand and/or have not witnessed themselves or from those they know.

Also, according to Scripture, we do indeed have power for it is written in Luke 10-- "I have given you power to tread over scorpions, serpents and over all the power of the enemy"

faithwalkingmom--you keep doing what you are doing. You take authority over that house and everything in it, under it, on top and all around it. Even the very grounds, you pray through the Holy Spirit within you and you will be right as rain. You sound like you are not afraid and that is good. You shouldn't be. God has not given you fear but power, love and sound mind, oh how I like the sound of the word power, dutemis(sp?) power and the power is within you ready to do the bidding of God in Jesus. I stand with you in the spirit my sister in Christ praying that the Lord goes before you and takes up your rear. You are well protected. You will find that as God has given you "alertness" in your spirit, you have responded the Godly way. Call it discernment, whatever you call it, the Lord is with you and for you.

Take care, faithwalking, and may the Living God purge all unwelcomed spirits and hosts from your home and grounds, if there so be, and release His sweet smelling fragrance of peace among you and yours, in Jesus precious and powerful name, amen!



bluestone -> RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons (7/16/2008 4:15:30 PM)

If it smells like sulfur, someone may have "cut the cheese".[8|]



earthless -> RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons (7/16/2008 4:19:24 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: jstbeliev

Also, according to Scripture, we do indeed have power for it is written in Luke 10-- "I have given you power to tread over scorpions, serpents and over all the power of the enemy"

faithwalkingmom--you keep doing what you are doing. You take authority over that house and everything in it, under it, on top and all around it. Even the very grounds, you pray through the Holy Spirit within you and you will be right as rain. You sound like you are not afraid and that is good. You shouldn't be. God has not given you fear but power, love and sound mind, oh how I like the sound of the word power, dutemis(sp?) power and the power is within you ready to do the bidding of God in Jesus. I stand with you in the spirit my sister in Christ praying that the Lord goes before you and takes up your rear. You are well protected. You will find that as God has given you "alertness" in your spirit, you have responded the Godly way. Call it discernment, whatever you call it, the Lord is with you and for you.



Your use of Luke 10 lacks context and leads to 'Pigs in the Parlor' type beliefs. It appears that the purpose for Jesus' disciples to perform exorcisms was to show Christ's dominion over the demons (Luke 10:17) and to verify that they were acting in His name and by His authority.

It also revealed their faith or lack of faith (Matthew 17:14-21). It was obvious that this act of casting out demons was important to the ministry of the disciples. However, it is unclear what part casting out demons actually played in the discipleship process.

Interestingly, there seems to be a shift in the latter part of the New Testament regarding demonic warfare. The teaching portions of the New Testament (Romans through Jude) refer to demonic activity, yet do not discuss the actions of casting them out, nor are believers exhorted to do so.

We are told to put on the armor to stand against them (Ephesians 6:10-18). We are told to resist the devil (James 4:7), be careful of him (1 Peter 5:8), and not give him room in our lives (Ephesians 4:27). However, we are not told how to cast him or his demons out of others, or that we should even consider doing so.

Ephesians 6:10-18 outlines clear instructions as to how we are to have victory in our lives in the battle against the forces of evil. The first is placing our faith in Christ (2:8,9), which breaks the rule of "the prince of power of the air" (2:2).

We are then to choose, again by God's grace, to put off ungodly habits and to put on godly habits (4:17-24).

This does not involve casting out demons, but rather renewing our minds (4:23). After several practical instructions on how to obey God as His children, we are reminded that there is a spiritual battle. It is fought with certain armor that allows us to stand against - not cast out - the trickery of the demonic world (6:10).

We stand with truth, righteousness, the gospel, faith, salvation, the Word of God and prayer.

It appears that as the Word of God was completed, the Christians had more weapons with which to battle the spirit world than the early Christians did. The role of casting out demons was replaced, for the most part, with evangelism and discipleship through the Word of God.

Since the methods of spiritual warfare in the New Testament do not involve casting out demons, it is difficult to determine instructions on how to do such a thing. If necessary at all, it seems that it is through exposing the individual to the truth of the Word of God and the name of Jesus Christ.



WesP -> RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons (7/16/2008 4:25:39 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: bluestone

If it smells like sulfur, someone may have "cut the cheese".[8|]


<clears throat>

That was.....ummm...a bit rude. Funny, but a bit rude. Stop it!

<suppresses laughter and walks away>



bluestone -> RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons (7/16/2008 4:28:17 PM)

My apologies for rudeness.

The point I want to make is that if this lady is encouraged to think there is demonic activity in her house, and it is indeed a problem with electrical wiring, etc. Her life and that of her family could be in danger. At the least they could lose their home.

To jump from the obvious to demons sans deodorant is a leap that could be very costly.



jstbeliev -> RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons (7/16/2008 4:29:36 PM)

You have a lot of words to say but no experience with demonic occurrences which proves my very point. I have so what you have just said is an untruth.

And btw, earthless, read Mark 16, verse 17 in particular. And make sure you are reading the HOLY Bible. Gotta go! Catch ya later.

God bless,



bluestone -> RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons (7/16/2008 4:31:30 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: jstbeliev

You have a lot of words to say but no experience with demonic occurrences which proves my very point. I have so what you have just said is an untruth.

And btw, earthless, read Mark 16, verse 17 in particular. And make sure you are reading the HOLY Bible. Gotta go! Catch ya later.

God bless,


you must not have experience watching your home burn to the ground.



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