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RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons - 7/17/2008 8:10:37 AM   
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Actions have consequences and not everything is because "Satan made me do it..."

That's a cop out.
Yep. You are definitely right there.

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RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons - 7/17/2008 8:13:03 AM   
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I could easily spend my time doing other things that would be profitable, but I wanted to shed some light here. But seeing as how people don't seem to want anything that I teach.. it may very well be one of the last times I visit here. I can go other places where people are more hungry for the truth.

There was a poll a couple or three years ago on this forum that asked why people joined. Something like 80% joined to teach and/or correct OTHERS.

That makes you just 1 of about 72,610 members vying to be top dog among people who consider themselves better qualified than most others to straighten out the theological morass of the rest of us. This includes people in their early 20s with a couple of years Sunday school under their belts on up to geezers with 4 or 5 decades as studious believers.

Just something for you to consider when you feel the urge to huff & puff.
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RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons - 7/17/2008 8:16:50 AM   
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Thank all for posting. We do have a fireplace but it's a gas fireplace so no wood buring in there. We went to the fireplace first just in case but nothing. My husband was in the same room and he has never smoked in his life. I'm just glad that I know the Lord God and that He has given me the power over satan/demons. I did ask God to put the hedge of protection around our home. I went to our pastor tonight and he seems to think that evil has come into the house with the new table that we got at a yard sale and brought home sunday afternoon, we smell the smoke ordor sunday after evening services. We prayed and rebuked any evil that came in with that table to leave our home.


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RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons - 7/17/2008 8:17:53 AM   
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Meekness has nothing to do with getting angry or not. I used caps because I am human and have emotion and that is one way to emphasize an angry point over the internet. The point was that I spend my time on here to help you guys, not that I have any benefit in typing up long posts about the Bible. I don't do it to stroke my ego. I do not need the approval of men. As a matter of fact I wouldn't even be able to understand the Bible at all if God didn't help me.

I could easily spend my time doing other things that would be profitable, but I wanted to shed some light here. But seeing as how people don't seem to want anything that I teach.. it may very well be one of the last times I visit here. I can go other places where people are more hungry for the truth.
I'm confused here. You claim that you have the truth that you're wanting to share with us, but because we're not eager to embrace this "truth" you're going to pack up your toys and go home?

Yeah buddy, we learned our lesson.


For the record, meekness is strength under control. Ask yourself if your posts show any self control.

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RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons - 7/17/2008 8:19:17 AM   
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#1 We don't "operate" God's power. God is not a lightsaber we wave around. God is Almighty and not controlled by us.

#2 How do we know a demon is involved in the OP's situation? That is the point many of us are trying to make. It's not that we don't think the devil isn't working.

#3 You don't need to teach us God's Word. Some of us know God's Word quite well thank you.

#4 It is your opinion that everything is interpreted correctly.

#5 Maybe I missed it, but no one here has denied the accuracy of God's Word.


1) We absolutely do operate the power of God. God doesn't do everything for us. We have to take a stand, believe, and pray for things. If you don't pray for it.. it probably won't happen. We are not God's robots, he gave us free will. It is our choice to use his power.

I Corinthians 2:1-5
1And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God.
2For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified.
3And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling.
4And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man's wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power:
5That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.


2) We don't know for sure, but they had doubts and thought it could be that. Since the thread went into the direction of people talking about power and devil spirits. I fashioned my post in that manner. EVERYONE else did the same thing.

3) I never said you didn't. In this particular thread there was a lot of inaccuracy. So on this particular topic, I took it upon myself to try and educate you. But if you don't want a teacher then that is your prerogative. Some people do / want someone to help them. It's your life do whatever you want, but stop trying to speak for people.

4) Point out one part that you don't think was interpreted correctly. All of my points were made with supporting scripture. Everything was backed up with clear verses from God's word. If you need evidence of Christ operating the power of God, then reread the gospels.

5) I never said you denied the accuracy of God's word once again. I happen to know the accuracy of the word on this particular topic so I endeavored to teach you. There is a lot of misconception in the Christian world today about the amount of power we have. Everything thinks the power died out after the apostles died. But there is no biblical substantiation for those claims and I don't use any outside sources to interpret the Bible but the Bible.

Nevertheless, my patience is growing very thin on these forums. I've tried numerous times to clearly outline the Bible to people who were confused on certain topics. Most of those times it holds no profit because people do not listen and are not meek to using the Bible to interpret the Bible. I GET NOTHING OUT OF THIS. I don't get paid to come on here and shed some light on certain topics. I do it out of love, because I am hoping that someone, somewhere, will be blessed by something that I write. That the true word of God would not be tainted by the interpretations of men. All I do is use the Bible to interpret itself, because that is the way God's word is most accurately taught.


You have stitched together verses from here and there, and have tried to build a teetering theology around it. You have failed. A lot of people here have great Biblical knowledge, seminary training, etc. and can see through the thin skin of error you have concocted.

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RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons - 7/17/2008 8:22:08 AM   
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TheBibleTRUTH,

You said:

quote:

The name of Jesus Christ has dominion over everything. So this is the name you must use when trying heal someone, cast out devils, or whatever. I will show you the first usage of the name of Jesus Christ in conjunction with operating the power of God, so that you might completely understand and believe me when I tell you exactly how to operate this power that is in you.


You went on to quote scripture that said Jesus Christ of Nazareth. Have you considered that people of other languages do not say Christ? What if I say Messiah? Does that still work? You are attempting to convince people that God gives you whatever power you desire. It is incorrect. Everyone does NOT have the same abilities. There are fruits of the spirit. Different people have different fruit.

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RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons - 7/17/2008 9:14:28 AM   
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ORIGINAL: bluestone

And btw, earthless, read Mark 16, verse 17 in particular. And make sure you are reading the HOLY Bible. Gotta go! Catch ya later.

God bless,


you must not have experience watching your home burn to the ground.


I wonder why you addressed me with this?..scratching head...I did not address you at all. And the point I made to another poster has nothing to do with your statement to me. Bye

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RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons - 7/17/2008 9:18:03 AM   
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Jimbo,

and?

So you don't believe the Bible, that's your choice. I do. And do you have a name of who added the lines and whoever they were...praise God.

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RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons - 7/17/2008 9:23:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: earthless

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You have a lot of words to say but no experience with demonic occurrences which proves my very point.


Who are you directing this to?

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ORIGINAL: jstbeliev

And btw, earthless, read Mark 16, verse 17 in particular. And make sure you are reading the HOLY Bible. Gotta go! Catch ya later.

God bless,


Friend, I know I am reading God's Word. Please feel free to respond to anything I shared if you disagree with it. Like I have said several times here, some people become so enamored with the demonic and false senses of self-importance/power that they lose sight on what is the biblical take on the demonic realm.


I am directing this to you, earthless. And the part I disagree with you is where you said that there was no demonic activity in the new testament when Revelations screams it. And no, I am not enamored by demonic forces I am just not ignorant of his devices and I recognize and can tell the difference between what is spiritually occurring and what is naturally occurring. Other people can't because of unbelief/doubt. Nevertheless, let the Lord be magnified.

But because we will disagree further, let us end the convo here, shall we?
You choose to believe in some parts of the Bible, I believe it all....

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RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons - 7/17/2008 9:26:14 AM   
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BibleTruth,

Very good post for it contains...truth. Let those who have ears to hear, understand.


God bless you,

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RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons - 7/17/2008 9:26:17 AM   
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Jimbo,

and?

So you don't believe the Bible, that's your choice. I do. And do you have a name of who added the lines and whoever they were...praise God.

I believe the Bible. But you seem to be willing to believe something that was added to the Bible. That's your choice but I refuse to build doctrine on extra biblical writings of an unknown source.

Say we have a copy of a book published in 1859 ten years after the author died, another in 1873, another in 1921, and another in 1945. If we found a couple of paragrahs in the 1945 edition that aren't in the others, what do you suppose people would assume about those paragraphs - regardless of who put them there?

Besides, the Bible interprets and validates itself. If you have a legitimate doctrine, you should be able to support it in more than just one book or chapter of the Bible.
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RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons - 7/17/2008 9:26:50 AM   
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Jimbo,

and?

So you don't believe the Bible, that's your choice. I do. And do you have a name of who added the lines and whoever they were...praise God.
How does Jimbo's statement show a lack of faith in the bible? He just pointed out a historical fact.

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RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons - 7/17/2008 9:34:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: bluestone

And btw, earthless, read Mark 16, verse 17 in particular. And make sure you are reading the HOLY Bible. Gotta go! Catch ya later.

God bless,


you must not have experience watching your home burn to the ground.


I wonder why you addressed me with this?..scratching head...I did not address you at all. And the point I made to another poster has nothing to do with your statement to me. Bye



Go back and read my post and the portion of your post I quoted. Your "experience" comment was what I responded to. The part you edited out of this post you addressed me in.

by the way, this is not a two way conversation between you and Earthless. your comments can be responded to by any member of this community.

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RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons - 7/17/2008 9:36:49 AM   
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BibleTruth,
Just keep posting! Just keep on posting! There are people here that are close-minded and because they happen to have posted many times feel that they are the authority on ALL things pertaining to Christendom.

I say keep posting because there are those that lurk out in cyberworld. Those who are taking in all that is written. The Lord said that we would be accountable for every idle word spoken...amen!

Keep posting for you are blessing many with the truth of the Gospel in context according to the Lord's will.

blessings to you,

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RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons - 7/17/2008 9:39:44 AM   
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BibleTruth,
Just keep posting! Just keep on posting! There are people here that are close-minded and because they happen to have posted many times feel that they are the authority on ALL things pertaining to Christendom.

Yeah, you two keep posting and you'll soon be close-minded because you have posted so many times and feel that you too are the authority on ALL things pertaining to Chrstendom.
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RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons - 7/17/2008 9:42:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: bluestone

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ORIGINAL: faithwalkingmom


Lemon pledge works wonders.




You are not funny. Mocking your bros/sis in Christ is unwise. Grow up!

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RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons - 7/17/2008 9:45:36 AM   
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Some of us base our theology on the Bible. Not on emotions and dabbling into the supernatural.

If the witch at Endor were alive today, I wonder if she would be a road side fortune teller, or an
"extreme prophetess " in an emotion based signs-and-wonders church.


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RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons - 7/17/2008 9:47:54 AM   
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Some of us base our theology on the Bible. Not on emotions and dabbling into the supernatural.

If the witch at Endor were alive today, I wonder if she would be a road side fortune teller, or an
"extreme prophetess " in an emotion based signs-and-wonders church.

Exactly... I remember hearing that if all it takes is a miracle to deceive people, then there are going to be a lot of people deceived. Remember the devil can duplicate almost all of the miracles Jesus performed. So we MUST rely on the bible as our standard. Just because a person can give a good show (i.e. most of the traveling "preachers" today) does not mean they rely on the bible as a standard, nor does it mean that they even know Jesus.

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RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons - 7/17/2008 9:48:41 AM   
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ORIGINAL: bluestone

ORIGINAL: faithwalkingmom


Lemon pledge works wonders.




You are not funny. Mocking your bros/sis in Christ is unwise. Grow up!



Perhaps you should dabble in reality on occasion. I believe in looking at the obvious before going off on a tangent. If the old yard sale table stinks, clean it up before asuming an inanimate object contains demons.

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RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons - 7/17/2008 9:55:03 AM   
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If the old yard sale table stinks, clean it up


I say set it on fire and enjoy the smell!

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RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons - 7/17/2008 10:01:42 AM   
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Jimbo,

and?

So you don't believe the Bible, that's your choice. I do. And do you have a name of who added the lines and whoever they were...praise God.

I believe the Bible. But you seem to be willing to believe something that was added to the Bible. That's your choice but I refuse to build doctrine on extra biblical writings of an unknown source.

Say we have a copy of a book published in 1859 ten years after the author died, another in 1873, another in 1921, and another in 1945. If we found a couple of paragrahs in the 1945 edition that aren't in the others, what do you suppose people would assume about those paragraphs - regardless of who put them there?

Besides, the Bible interprets and validates itself. If you have a legitimate doctrine, you should be able to support it in more than just one book or chapter of the Bible.



You have yet to name your source so why should I believe you?

Secondly, if the words written were not lined up with the rest of Scripture, I would have doubts but because it says, Mark 17,"In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues..." "For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people" Isaiah 28. I believe that it was inpsired by the Holy Spirit written for believers today. Why? Because I have spoken in a dialect other than English and I have cast out devils. Whether you believe it or not is irrelevant. Whether you or anyone else believes that there does exists devils that manifest on occasion is irrelevant. Are they in every thing and every one? Of course not. We are not fools. Wisdom is the chief thing. And no one on here is saying that. But because there are no arguments to reprove the truth, some say that we believe in name it, claim it. I don't and I don't believe bibletruth does either. But you and others will label us anyway...just because you and others have not experienced God's manifested power. I wonder why? Perhaps because you and others don't believe that HE still works. Perhaps because you and others don't believe in satan's trick which is getting people to believe that he doesn't exist or just has stopped seeking whom he can devour. What a sad thing.

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RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons - 7/17/2008 10:02:00 AM   
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If the old yard sale table stinks, clean it up


I say set it on fire and enjoy the smell!
Don't forget the marshmallows!!


And the hot dogs...


And... I'm getting hungry!

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RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons - 7/17/2008 10:04:48 AM   
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oh but we don't have the thousands of posts under our belt so we still got a ways to go

Besides it is what lies beneath the posts that I am concerned about.

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RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons - 7/17/2008 10:05:36 AM   
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You have yet to name your source so why should I believe you?

Feel free to ignore my humble offer of the facts. it's your right to choose to remain as you want to be.

Have a nice day,
JF
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RE: the smelling of smoke and satan/demons - 7/17/2008 10:09:50 AM   
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oh but we don't have the thousands of posts under our belt so we still got a ways to go

Besides it is what lies beneath the posts that I am concerned about.

Let's be truthful now, you wrote:
quote:

There are people here that are close-minded and because they happen to have posted many times feel that they are the authority on ALL things pertaining to Christendom.

As far as I'm concerned, anything over 50 posts puts you in that category.

I only reached 50 posts after I'd been a member here a YEAR. So you apparently are lots more than me of what you accused others of being.
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