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manda59 -> RE: Sleep Training (7/11/2008 1:47:29 PM)

Never heard of any of those except on this forum! [;)]



Mrs.Wifey -> RE: Sleep Training (7/11/2008 1:50:36 PM)

You haven't heard of "ferberizing"? Wow. He is like big name among CIO advocates.



manda59 -> RE: Sleep Training (7/11/2008 1:52:24 PM)

Probably only in America.

There's a whole world out here with other experts and other opinions. [;)]



Mrs.Wifey -> RE: Sleep Training (7/11/2008 2:06:33 PM)

Lol! On my "other" forum alot of the mama's are from the UK and they are more AP then I am[:D]

Boy, we're getting rather off topic...



manda59 -> RE: Sleep Training (7/11/2008 2:08:21 PM)

They're probably NCT. I tried some of their classes and really didn't fit in. [8|]



Mrs.X -> RE: Sleep Training (7/11/2008 2:37:00 PM)

I have to agree with Manda about baby books recommending to put the baby down awake. What to Expect, Your Baby & Child, AmericanBaby.com, Pampers.com were the ones I was reading when Timmy was little, and they all say to put the baby down awake and sleepy. Course they never said what to do when the baby started crying, so I just started rocking him to sleep. I think Dr. Sears and the others Ryanne posted go againts the grain, and I never heard of them until I came on here and met all the crunchy mamas.
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My littlest sleeps in the bed with us too, but he sleeps in his crib when I'm not in bed. Maybe you can start pushing the crib all the way up agaist your bed to get him used to it. You can even try taking the side off the crib if the matresses are flush. Like THIS. Then just try putting him to bed earlier. If he doesn't like the crib and since you don't mind the co-sleeping, try nursing him to sleep in your bed, and then when he is in a deep sleep, get up and do homework. If it makes you too sleepy to lay down and nurse, try nursing him to sleep in a chair, but just be sure he's in a deep sleep before transporting him to a bed.



Mrs.Wifey -> RE: Sleep Training (7/11/2008 3:14:39 PM)

The books I have read and used while writing my research paper on CIO were "Healthy Sleep Habits, Happy Children", "No Cry Sleep Solution", "Ferber Method(not the title of the book)", "Baby Whisperer", "Baby Wise", and "Happiest Baby on the Block".

Some of them are anti-CIO, some are pro but not a one of them really recommended any form of CIO until 6 months. I would consider the Ferber method to be the strictest and even he says 5-6 months. However, none of them, including Dr.Sears, have I ever heard say anything against putting your child to bed awake, but sleepy.

Honestly, I wouldn't recommend such sites as pampers.com, or americanbaby as good places for parenting info.



MamaMilty -> RE: Sleep Training (7/11/2008 3:20:09 PM)

Each school of thought has plenty of experts to go around. IMHO, as long as baby is being nurtured, fed & rested, do what works!

My 1st needed to route around in his crib, cry a little bit, and settle himself down to sleep. If that is CIO, then so be it. Some babies need to let off a little steam. He was never distressed, just workin' it out.

My other 2 were total cuddlebugs that happily nursed and snuggled and would fret if put in their bed, so I didn't.



Mrs.X -> RE: Sleep Training (7/11/2008 3:29:53 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Mrs.Wifey
Honestly, I wouldn't recommend such sites as pampers.com, or americanbaby as good places for parenting info.

LOL, yeah thinking back to some of the stuff I read back then, some of probably wasn't very good. I liked getting the weekly newsletters mostly. They were very helpful to a very clueless new mom that knew nothing about babies, like I was. Hehehe, probably saved Timmy from eating tuna at 2 months old or something...Yeah, I was that clueless. LOL



Mrs.Wifey -> RE: Sleep Training (7/11/2008 3:31:18 PM)

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My 1st needed to route around in his crib, cry a little bit, and settle himself down to sleep. If that is CIO, then so be it. Some babies need to let off a little steam. He was never distressed, just workin' it out.


Ah, but he wasn't distressed. That is the key here, methods like Ferber do allow babies to get distressed, and that is what I, personally, have a problem with. Gabby went through a phase where she had to fuss herself to sleep, but it's different then CIO.



dance4joy -> RE: Sleep Training (7/16/2008 8:23:54 AM)

Can I get a big HOO-RAY!? My little sweetpea slept the entire night in her crib last night!!!!! I only let her take two naps yesterday so she was good and tired. At 7:30 I swaddled her and fed her and then at about 8:15 I laid her down in her crib. She fussed and squirmed for about 45 minutes so I checked on her periodically and put her pacifier back in a few times. By 9:00 she was sound asleep. She woke up at 1:00 am and 5:00 am to eat but other than that I didn't hear a peep from her all night! It was wonderful!!



manda59 -> RE: Sleep Training (7/16/2008 8:45:56 AM)

Excellent news!! [:)]



zippty_day -> RE: Sleep Training (7/16/2008 8:54:15 AM)

We sleep trained our new 3 month old foster son[:D] Just kidding. Everyone got me in a frenzy to bond with him, which isn't hard for me, I was the choice babysitter at age 12 and up because I bond easily with others. I tried to bring him to bed one night and my husband said he wiggled too much and he had to go back to his own bed.
I read the thread because I thought it was about sleeping through the night w/out a feeding which is being discussed on my foster child thread.

Each child is different. My oldest would easily be rocked or fall asleep being cuddled and then I'd transfer him to his own bed. My husband wouldn't allow our children to sleep with us, and that was hard for me as I had fond memories of crawling in bed with grandparents, etc. Not for the whole night though. Anyway, I hope you've made your transfer. Our youngest wouldn't let me cuddle or rock him. He wanted to go to bed crying and fall asleep. That was hard on mommy as I wanted a quiet baby. Don't worry if they cry a little. If they're mad, that's another deal.

hugs!



dance4joy -> RE: Sleep Training (7/17/2008 1:30:24 PM)

I'm happy to report another satisfactory (if not quite as brilliantly successful) night. She woke up at 11:00, 2:30 and 5:30 to eat, and there were a couple other little fussy moments when she lost her pacifier, but she went back to sleep as soon as I put it back in for her. Sure wish there was a way to keep it from falling out. [&:]



manda59 -> RE: Sleep Training (7/17/2008 2:02:00 PM)

It won't be that long before she is putting it back in herself.[:)]



pbaribeault -> RE: Sleep Training (7/17/2008 4:55:13 PM)

I found it helpful to tie the pacifier firmly to the neck of a small safe stuffed animal. It makes it so that a baby can find the animal and mouth around to find the pacifier, which is easier than finding a lone pacifier.



manda59 -> RE: Sleep Training (7/17/2008 5:19:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: pbaribeault
I found it helpful to tie the pacifier firmly to the neck of a small safe stuffed animal. It makes it so that a baby can find the animal and mouth around to find the pacifier, which is easier than finding a lone pacifier.




Sorry, but yikes! That surely either means that the stuffed animal would be too close to the baby's face for my liking, or that the tie would be too long and potentially dangerous.



zippty_day -> RE: Sleep Training (7/17/2008 5:58:56 PM)

Here's what I've done. My guy sleeps best on a cotton quilt, so I roll it under on the side he faces as he sleeps on his side and prop his little back with a small decorative pillow under the other side of the quilt to give him the feeling that he's being held and cuddled. If your child likes to feel cuddled this may work for you so the rolled side keeps the binky in place[:D]



kohls356 -> RE: Sleep Training (7/17/2008 6:48:28 PM)

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ORIGINAL: manda59

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ORIGINAL: pbaribeault
I found it helpful to tie the pacifier firmly to the neck of a small safe stuffed animal. It makes it so that a baby can find the animal and mouth around to find the pacifier, which is easier than finding a lone pacifier.


Sorry, but yikes! That surely either means that the stuffed animal would be too close to the baby's face for my liking, or that the tie would be too long and potentially dangerous.


I agree. please don't tie a pacifier around anything. That is a choking hazard for sure and you probably know not to have stuffed animals in the crib with your daughter anyway but just a reminder.



Mrs.X -> RE: Sleep Training (7/17/2008 7:06:49 PM)

I wonder about those clips with a short string attached to the binky......I never used one when my kiddos were sleeping because everytime I bought one I forgot to see if it was safe for sleeping with. Maybe next time you're at the store, see if the manufacturer recommends using them while sleeping.



manda59 -> RE: Sleep Training (7/17/2008 7:11:11 PM)

I only ever used those for the pushchair (stroller), to stop the dummy falling down on the floor/ground. I wouldn't use them in a cot (crib).



dance4joy -> RE: Sleep Training (7/17/2008 7:14:47 PM)

I actually don't like those pacifier holders. . .the string just gives her something to grab on to making it even easier for her to accidentally pull it out of her mouth. In fact I had to find her a pacifier without a ring on it because even that was too easily grabbed. She likes to sleep with her hands up by her face and she's constantly knocking it out of her mouth. It helps if I swaddle her but eventually she manages to wiggle her arms out no matter what I do. She's a little escape artist. LOL!



Brandy -> RE: Sleep Training (7/17/2008 8:12:28 PM)

Emily what do you swaddle her with?



dance4joy -> RE: Sleep Training (7/18/2008 2:22:29 PM)

Just a large thin cotton blanket. In fact the blanket in my avatar picture is one of her best swaddling blankets. Most of her other blankets are either too small or too heavy.

BTW she had another really good night last night. This has been way easier than I expected. I'm a little bit worried about tonight though, she's been napping a lot today. I finally gave up trying to keep her awake and put her in the crib for a nap. . .that was an hour and a half ago. I think I may need to wake her up soon. [&:]



kohls356 -> RE: Sleep Training (7/18/2008 2:38:22 PM)

I would let her nap if she wants to and 2 hours should still be good for her to sleep at night. One thing I learned, of with mine anyway, was if they didn't get a good nap during the day for some reason they wouldn't sleep as good at night.



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