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allisonbrett -> VP predictions (6/17/2008 2:55:51 PM)
OK gang, time to predict the running mates. Who do you think McCain and Obama will choose for VeePee, 2nd banana?

WesP -> RE: VP predictions (6/17/2008 2:57:36 PM)
Some dude! [:D] Actually, I do not know what to think about this as yet. Kinda scary if you think about the available choices.

CherishedbyGod -> RE: VP predictions (6/17/2008 3:17:06 PM)
McCain will pick Sarah Palin - http://www.gov.state.ak.us/

Jeff_from_Kentucky -> RE: VP predictions (6/17/2008 3:18:40 PM)
I think Obama will chose someone from a swing state such as Ohio, Missouri, or Michigan, especially since the polls are extremely close in those states and he needs to win at least two out of the three to have a chance of winning. Or, he might pick someone from a southern state in an effort to make inroads in the south. As of the most recent polls, Virginia, North Carolina, and Missouri are the only southern (or border) states where he is even close. A southern running mate might change that. Or, he might also have to pick someone from the northeast because according to the latest polls Connecticut, New Hampshire, Pennsylvania, and New Jersey are up for grabs this year. With the exception of NH, the others usually go strongly to the Democratic candidate for President. If he can't hold on to the strongly Democratic states, he is in big trouble! Maybe he should just chose three running mates to cover all the bases! [:D] McCain will probably chose a staunch conservative along the lines of a Ron Paul or a Mike Huckabee or a Fred Thompson or a Newt Gingrich in order to bring in the conservative base of the party since the base of the party is lukewarm at best toward McCain right now. McCain already appeals to moderates and conservative Democrats and has an endorsement from Joe Lieberman. That will be a big help but IMO he needs someone to draw in the conservatives like me who are leaning heavily toward a third party candidate if he wants to soundly defeat Obama in November. In other words, if he wants to win he needs to play ball with the conservatives and throw us a bone. If he doesn't, he is going to miss out on a large number of votes.

henny -> RE: VP predictions (6/17/2008 8:50:26 PM)
There's really only one candidate that Obama should pick: James Webb. He's perfect because: (1) He has foreign policy/ military experience (he was secretary of the navy under Reagan), (2) He's from the south (Virginia) and might increase Obama's appeal to Southerners, (3) He's more moderate than most Dems and used to be GOP (which would help Obama appeal to moderates), and (4) he's been a rational and sane critic of the War in Iraq (as oppossed to an irrational and insane one, the likes of which do exist in the democratic party). He would have made a great VP for Hilary too.

henny -> RE: VP predictions (6/17/2008 8:54:51 PM)
I have to agree that Sarah Palin would be the best pick for McCain strategically, but I'm not sure that he'll end up picking her. She's everything that his campaign is lacking right now: youth, excitement, conservative cred, and female. If he's smart and wants to win he'd pick her.

Pat-rebel_lady -> RE: VP predictions (6/18/2008 1:20:49 AM)
I predict Obama will pick Al Gore; even though I believe Al Gore's goal is to be Head of The UN one day --- as someone else suggested a while back, it would keep him in the 'Politics' spot light. And of course he just endorsed Obama, which would be a necessary step in the process to becoming VP. I'd like to see McCain and Newt Gingrich, but I really don't think that will happen. In actuality I say this election will be won according to who has the best running mate for VP; Most Voters are going to the Polls to vote in Office the next VP, not the next President --- Obama and McCain are just Political forerunners.

cow451 -> RE: VP predictions (6/18/2008 2:38:53 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: henny There's really only one candidate that Obama should pick: James Webb. He's perfect because: (1) He has foreign policy/ military experience (he was secretary of the navy under Reagan), (2) He's from the south (Virginia) and might increase Obama's appeal to Southerners, (3) He's more moderate than most Dems and used to be GOP (which would help Obama appeal to moderates), and (4) he's been a rational and sane critic of the War in Iraq (as oppossed to an irrational and insane one, the likes of which do exist in the democratic party). He would have made a great VP for Hilary too. Two knocks on Webb. One, he's relatively inexperienced at this level. And, two, he's got a rep of being hot-headed... sort of a young McCain. Given the Obummer has a good chance of winning, I hope he gets someone that will serve him well. Some are advocating Retired General Wes Clark, but he is inexperienced in government also. It would throw the aluminum hat crowd on its ear if he picked Lieberman. [8D] I can hear it now: "a Muslim and a Jew ....."[sm=icon_smile_yikes.gif]

cow451 -> RE: VP predictions (6/18/2008 2:44:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: henny I have to agree that Sarah Palin would be the best pick for McCain strategically, but I'm not sure that he'll end up picking her. She's everything that his campaign is lacking right now: youth, excitement, conservative cred, and female. If he's smart and wants to win he'd pick her. McCain's choice is more critical than Obummer's. McCain has to hit a home run and have someone with no negatives and a charismatic campaigner. OBummer simply has to avoid some trainwreck pick.

HighPlainsDrifter -> RE: VP predictions (6/18/2008 2:45:26 PM)
I think Obama should choose Cynthia McKinney, or maybe Ramsey Clarke.

WesP -> RE: VP predictions (6/18/2008 3:01:50 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: HighPlainsDrifter I think Obama should choose Cynthia McKinney, or maybe Ramsey Clarke. I hope he chooses Cynthia McKinney! [:D]

CherishedbyGod -> RE: VP predictions (6/18/2008 11:09:04 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cow451 It would throw the aluminum hat crowd on its ear if he picked Lieberman. [8D] I can hear it now: "a Muslim and a Jew ....."[sm=icon_smile_yikes.gif] Sorry, cow, to burst your bubble that is not going to happen http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-lieberman12-2008jun12,0,4808447.story?track=rss Sorry again, cow, to burst your bubble...Some of us love the Jewish people so much we financially support them......

Jhud -> RE: VP predictions (6/18/2008 11:19:13 PM)
I'm putting my money on Bobby Jindal for McCain.

todd_t -> RE: VP predictions (6/19/2008 12:22:48 AM)
quote: I'm putting my money on Bobby Jindal for McCain. There's a serious problem with Jindal as VP as--considering he's only been a governor for less than two years--it would implode the "experience" drumbeat McCain's been using against Obama. Plus, Jindal has made it pretty clear that he does not want the job. IMO, I'll bet McCain goes with Mitt Romney, as he'd offer the GOP an edge in Michigan. Otherwise, I wouldn't be surprised if Lieberman got the nod - even though I think the pick would be unwise considering that he is not exactly a spring chicken himself. As for Obama's pick, I'm betting that Sam Nunn has the inside track. Or perhaps Ed Rendell could be talked into joining the ticket.

Jeff_from_Kentucky -> RE: VP predictions (6/19/2008 12:50:07 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: cow451 It would throw the aluminum hat crowd on its ear if he picked Lieberman. That might happen if Lieberman wasn't actively supporting McCain. He endorsed McCain a while back. He could be McCain's running mate, though if that happened McCain would definitely lose his conservative base.

Jhud -> RE: VP predictions (6/19/2008 2:06:08 AM)
quote: There's a serious problem with Jindal as VP as--considering he's only been a governor for less than two years--it would implode the "experience" drumbeat McCain's been using against Obama. Plus, Jindal has made it pretty clear that he does not want the job. Well, McCain has the experience of 5 Obama's - what he lacks is youth, being reliably conservative, and he is way too white. Jindal should help with all three. Plus Jindal has congressional experience as well as executive experience - so he will compare well to Obama. But who knowa - this election is perhaps the most unpredictable in my memory.

Lizahana -> RE: VP predictions (6/19/2008 7:32:55 AM)
I wish Obama would pick someone like Bart Stupak, but I don't think that's going to happen. I bet it will be along the lines of Sam Nunn, Joe Biden, Al Gore, the like. McCain should definitley pick someone who is way right of center to try and pander to the very conservative + someone who is young. Peace and God bless,

todd_t -> RE: VP predictions (6/19/2008 11:11:31 AM)
quote: Plus Jindal has congressional experience as well as executive experience - so he will compare well to Obama. I dunno. I just see Jindal backfiring on McCain badly were he to pick him. Plus, another big concern I'd have with Jindal as a VP pick (were I among McCain's circle of advisors) is his ultra-strict view on abortion (e.g. no exceptions for rape, incest, mother's life/health). Outside the Deep South, that platform would drive women voters away from a McCain/Jindal ticket, and toward Obama like a super-powered magnet.

Jhud -> RE: VP predictions (6/19/2008 11:41:28 AM)
quote: I dunno. I just see Jindal backfiring on McCain badly were he to pick him. Plus, another big concern I'd have with Jindal as a VP pick (were I among McCain's circle of advisors) is his ultra-strict view on abortion (e.g. no exceptions for rape, incest, mother's life/health). Outside the Deep South, that platform would drive women voters away from a McCain/Jindal ticket, and toward Obama like a super-powered magnet. I think such a stance might solidify a staunchly conservative base, which is what McCain needs at this point - but like I said, who knows.

todd_t -> RE: VP predictions (6/19/2008 11:54:12 AM)
quote: I think such a stance might solidify a staunchly conservative base, which is what McCain needs at this point. McCain surely does need to shore up his right-wing base, but that alone won't be enough to put him over the top in November. He also needs help from cross-over Dem voters and independents for his campaign to succeed, and swinging to the far-right via Jindal's abortion stance will just alienate most of that voting bloc. I'm still wondering if McCain won't grab Lieberman as his VP pick. I guess we'll all find out later this summer.

saved9201 -> RE: VP predictions (6/19/2008 7:45:19 PM)
If McCain picks Piyush Jindal, then the same knuckle draggers who insist Obama is a Muslim will probably be skeptical of this guys Hindu/Punjabi background as well. Mitt Romney is a smart guy, but he's a Mormon and since folks on the right decided early on that a candidates' religion, former religion, rumored religion, estranged daddy's former religion, and all past, present and future sermons of current and former preachers and visiting preachers of candidate's former churches should be dissected and scrutinized, those two, Piyush and Mitt, must be ruled out. My prediction? I don't know their name but knowing McCain, it will be a name that makes everybody drop their jaws in unision and turn to their partner and say, "huh?" Meanwhile, Obama picks Webb. Nuff said. - Julius

cow451 -> RE: VP predictions (6/20/2008 1:38:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: saved9201 If McCain picks Piyush Jindal, then the same knuckle draggers who insist Obama is a Muslim will probably be skeptical of this guys Hindu/Punjabi background as well. - Julius The cattle industry might become alarmed.[sm=aside.gif][sm=moocow.gif]

WesP -> RE: VP predictions (6/20/2008 2:11:04 PM)
To get the most voters behing him, McCain would have to choose someone like Lieberman. Most conservatives are going to hold their noses and vote McCain, but he needs to pull from the left to win. That requires even more liberal ideology from his VP.

Jeff_from_Kentucky -> RE: VP predictions (6/20/2008 2:22:02 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: WesP To get the most voters behing him, McCain would have to choose someone like Lieberman. Most conservatives are going to hold their noses and vote McCain, but he needs to pull from the left to win. That requires even more liberal ideology from his VP. At the cost of losing the conservative base of his party? Lieberman is okay but if McCain does not chose a staunch conservative, he will lose the base of the party. There are many of us who are strongly considering a third party candidate such as Bob Barr or Chuck Baldwin because McCain is too liberal. Choosing another liberal would be shooting himself in the foot. If he wants the conservative vote, he has to chose a conservative. McCain already appeals to moderates but the moderates alone will not win him the election, especially if he can't pull in the base of his party.

WesP -> RE: VP predictions (6/20/2008 3:04:28 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Jeff_from_Kentucky quote: ORIGINAL: WesP To get the most voters behing him, McCain would have to choose someone like Lieberman. Most conservatives are going to hold their noses and vote McCain, but he needs to pull from the left to win. That requires even more liberal ideology from his VP. At the cost of losing the conservative base of his party? Lieberman is okay but if McCain does not chose a staunch conservative, he will lose the base of the party. There are many of us who are strongly considering a third party candidate such as Bob Barr or Chuck Baldwin because McCain is too liberal. Choosing another liberal would be shooting himself in the foot. If he wants the conservative vote, he has to chose a conservative. McCain already appeals to moderates but the moderates alone will not win him the election, especially if he can't pull in the base of his party. How many conservatives will choose a third party? That is like tossing your vote in the trash. Choosing Lieberman still does not equate to Osama.

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