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dancing in the Lord - 5/29/2008 3:34:37 PM
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yustme
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this post IS NOT for arguement,I'm only asking a question because I'm confused.Does anyone on these threads understand what is meant by "Dancing in the Lord"?I'm in my 60's and when I was growing up I saw MANY people so over taken by the HS that they were "Dancing in the Lord".But it was NOTHING like i see today.Please don't turn this into a bashing time.I just want to understand without arguements.
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RE: dancing in the Lord - 5/29/2008 4:31:04 PM
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I don't know that I can explain it, but I do know what you are talking about. I am 67 and remember it as a regular happening in the pentecostal church I was raised in. Rarely in the last few years have I seen the Holy Spirit at work in that manifestation. Although, as I said, I saw it in pentecostal churches, I clearly remember one lady who was not pentecostal who did one of the most beautiful dances I have ever seen. This lady was my mothers neighbor, and well known to my family. For her to dance in church, she had to have been yieding to something that was unusual for her. In our years of singing Southen Gospel, we have seen many different means of praise and worship of our Savior, but what you are inquiring about is now rare. I will have to say, without being unduly critical, that some of the things we have seen left us with questions.
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RE: dancing in the Lord - 5/29/2008 11:25:31 PM
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I grew up Penecostal so yes have seen people Dancing for the Lord. I believe David danced and is in scripture of dancing
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RE: dancing in the Lord - 5/30/2008 3:14:38 AM
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We used to sing "when the spirit of the Lord moves upon my heart, I will dance like David danced". Some of the ladies removed their 4" heels to dance but no one ever danced naked! Thank goodness! BTW, in our church it was referred to as dancing in the Spirit.
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RE: dancing in the Lord - 5/30/2008 7:10:43 AM
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Not to argue with you, singLOUD, but David didn't dance before the Lord in the buff. He wore a linen ephod...2Sam. 6:14
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RE: dancing in the Lord - 5/30/2008 12:32:32 PM
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Well, I'm Baptist, with "costal" on the end of it, and I've danced plenty of times when the Lord is in it. It's called a happy thing to be that excited about our Lord Jesus!
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RE: dancing in the Lord - 5/30/2008 1:05:19 PM
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ORIGINAL: PaulPate I don't know that I can explain it, but I do know what you are talking about. I am 67 and remember it as a regular happening in the pentecostal church I was raised in. Rarely in the last few years have I seen the Holy Spirit at work in that manifestation. Although, as I said, I saw it in pentecostal churches, I clearly remember one lady who was not pentecostal who did one of the most beautiful dances I have ever seen. This lady was my mothers neighbor, and well known to my family. For her to dance in church, she had to have been yieding to something that was unusual for her. In our years of singing Southen Gospel, we have seen many different means of praise and worship of our Savior, but what you are inquiring about is now rare. I will have to say, without being unduly critical, that some of the things we have seen left us with questions. I thank you for all your input.I am 63 and I grew up in the Nazarene church.What I saw as a kid was completly different than what I see now.In my own lifetime I've had a few times when the HS took over me and I have "danced in the Lord/Spirit",but It was nothing like I see today.My body or feet never kept time with the beat or rhythm.Yes,I do know how to dance.From all the posts I've read,PaulPate is the only one that seems to understand what I mean by"dancing In the Lord/Spirit".Keep the posts coming.If you don't mind,let me know your ages.
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RE: dancing in the Lord - 5/30/2008 1:07:57 PM
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I think yustme is referring to the difference in "dancing in the spirit" and being in church and dancing to the music or the beat. Is that still dancing in the spirit?
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RE: dancing in the Lord - 5/30/2008 2:08:53 PM
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ORIGINAL: GospelProducer I think yustme is referring to the difference in "dancing in the spirit" and being in church and dancing to the music or the beat. Is that still dancing in the spirit? Could be or could just be caught up in the music and emotion. Not being critical but I've seen both. You don't necessarily need music to dance in the spirit.
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RE: dancing in the Lord - 5/30/2008 2:16:05 PM
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All I have to say is if you have to handle snakes to get to heaven, I sure hope YOU ALL have a good time in heaven...I won't be there lol
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RE: dancing in the Lord - 5/30/2008 2:27:11 PM
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I grew up Penecostal and have seen and did both dancing under the power of God and spoken in tongues. yes I know a lot about it. and honestly, if you truely under the power of the Lord, you do not know what you are doing. you are not looking about smiling looking to see who is watching you. it is you and God connecting and you are under His power. He is the only thing on your mind. You may start at front of Church and when you get to where you can get a sense of your surroundings, you are in back of Church in a classroom or somewhere with no knowledge how you got there. It is a feeling like I never felt before. a warmth is over you like you can't describe. I have seen God hit my Church where I grew up where all people was doing was laughing. least what was told. and it wasn't just one person. Everyone that was a Christian, it hit at the same moment. no one remembered where they were. God was that in control of you. Yes I grew up United Penecostal.
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RE: dancing in the Lord - 5/30/2008 3:15:18 PM
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I am 65 yrs young! I was raised Pentecostal and still am, but I don't see as much dancing of any kind as there was in the good ole days. But I believe it is okay to pray in the spirit or with the understanding. It is okay to sing in the spirit or with the understanding and it is just as okay to dance in the understanding as in the spirit. Many people used to criticize when someone DANCED in church and those looking on thought they were "in the flesh". I say if you feel the dance, then dance! There are no separate rules in the Bible for singing, clapping hands, playing instruments or dancing. We all worship in different ways. I love that old song "ONE LESS STONE" where it talks about David praising with a timbrel and harp and he praised in a dance. Goes on to say: I don't want to offend nobody, but I'm gonna worship Jesus. If I hold my peace, the stones will cry out.
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RE: dancing in the Lord - 5/30/2008 3:17:33 PM
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ORIGINAL: pittsgirl I am 65 yrs young! I was raised Pentecostal and still am, but I don't see as much dancing of any kind as there was in the good ole days. But I believe it is okay to pray in the spirit or with the understanding. It is okay to sing in the spirit or with the understanding and it is just as okay to dance in the understanding as in the spirit. Many people used to criticize when someone DANCED in church and those looking on thought they were "in the flesh". I say if you feel the dance, then dance! There are no separate rules in the Bible for singing, clapping hands, playing instruments or dancing. We all worship in different ways. I love that old song "ONE LESS STONE" where it talks about David praising with a timbrel and harp and he praised in a dance. Goes on to say: I don't want to offend nobody, but I'm gonna worship Jesus. If I hold my peace, the stones will cry out. wow do I love that line. stuffieness ain't me in Church
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RE: dancing in the Lord - 5/30/2008 4:11:34 PM
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ORIGINAL: jchaz Check this out... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMP-CQ_bvSM&feature=related Sorry,that's not at all what I mean.!!How old are those of you that posted? I really didn't think you meant the snake thing... couldn't resist bringing this clip up, though. You gotta admit there's some good ole Holy Ghost worship and dancin' in the Spirit on it. I've been around 'the old time Pentecostal' way of worship, and I gotta say ... I like it... just leave them pesky 'rattlers in the box. Don't get into that!
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RE: dancing in the Lord - 5/30/2008 9:15:47 PM
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I saw this happen when I was a child, but we had a pastoral change and the new pastor commented from the pulpit that is was a church service, not American Bandstand, and it did not happen anymore, even after he left. People still went to the mourner's bench and cried, but no dancing or pew jumping.
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RE: dancing in the Lord - 5/31/2008 8:24:35 AM
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ORIGINAL: jchaz quote:
ORIGINAL: yustme quote:
ORIGINAL: jchaz Check this out... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMP-CQ_bvSM&feature=related Sorry,that's not at all what I mean.!!How old are those of you that posted? I really didn't think you meant the snake thing... couldn't resist bringing this clip up, though. You gotta admit there's some good ole Holy Ghost worship and dancin' in the Spirit on it. I've been around 'the old time Pentecostal' way of worship, and I gotta say ... I like it... just leave them pesky 'rattlers in the box. Don't get into that! Ditto.Although,I'm not quite sure it was all done in the Spirit.But I wasn't there so I can't say.
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RE: dancing in the Lord - 5/31/2008 9:15:27 AM
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honestly, if you truely under the power of the Lord, you do not know what you are doing. you are not looking about smiling looking to see who is watching you. it is you and God connecting and you are under His power. He is the only thing on your mind. This can happen in a choreographed dance as well. In fact it has happened to me-where you are so into praising Him that you are lost in the worship. I often smile when I dance-not because I am looking around to see if anyone is watching me but because I am communing with him. Happens to me when we practice our special dance too-I am smiling and there is no one but me, Him and the other dancer doing that dance. That's one of the reasons why in my congregation we practice the worship songs for that week-the idea is to get so familiar with the dance that when service comes, instead of concentrating on the dance, you can just worship.
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RE: dancing in the Lord - 5/31/2008 10:09:25 AM
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ORIGINAL: TQ_Fan_4_Life I grew up Penecostal so yes have seen people Dancing for the Lord. I believe David danced and is in scripture of dancing Yes, but David danced naked, not recommended today, even in pentecostal churches. zzzzzzzzzzzzzz In many ways mention of this event is very apt in this thread...since Dancing in the Lord was viewed by the more staid churches looked upon the practice with disdain in much the same way as Michal viewed David's ecstatic gyrations. David was no more naked that those who were/are Dancing in the Lord. The ephod was much more than sacerdotal BVDs according to Fausset's Bible Dictionary: The ephod was also used, but without the breast-plate, by the ordinary priests, as their characteristic robe (1Sa_2:28; 1Sa_14:3; 1Sa_22:18; Hos_3:4). David's ephod, in bringing the ark to Jerusalem, differed from the priests' in being of ordinary linen, whereas theirs was of fine linen. That he was fully clothed is further clarified when we examine the parallel verses that describe the event: And David was dancing before the LORD with all his might, and David was wearing a linen ephod. (2 Samuel 6:14 NASB) Now David was clothed with a robe of fine linen with all the Levites who were carrying the ark, and the singers and Chenaniah the leader of the singing with the singers. David also wore an ephod of linen. (1 Chronicles 15:27 NASB) What caused the confusion was Michal, David's wife's reaction to his dancing with such abandon: Then it happened as the ark of the LORD came into the city of David that Michal the daughter of Saul looked out of the window and saw King David leaping and dancing before the LORD; and she despised him in her heart. (2 Samuel 6:16 NASB) But when David returned to bless his household, Michal the daughter of Saul came out to meet David and said, "How the king of Israel distinguished himself today! He uncovered himself today in the eyes of his servants' maids as one of the foolish ones shamelessly uncovers himself!" (2 Samuel 6:20 NASB) and in the parallel verse: It happened when the ark of the covenant of the LORD came to the city of David, that Michal the daughter of Saul looked out of the window and saw King David leaping and celebrating; and she despised him in her heart. (1 Chronicles 15:29 NASB) One commentary explains it this way (commenting on 2 Samuel 6:19 and 20): Then, with dancing in the streets, the ark was brought to a temporary tent in the City of David. (It is likely that Psalm 68 was written at this time.) The king himself was so elated that he danced before the LORD with all his might. David was wearing a linen ephod instead of his customary royal clothes. His wife, Michal, looked through a window and saw him dressed in an ephod, acting in a manner which she considered unworthy of a king. When he returned home, she falsely accused him of indecently dancing in public. ("Uncovering" in verse 20 must be understood in the light of verse 14.) He answered that his dancing was an expression of his joy in the Lord and intimated that he did not intend to stifle his enthusiasm for the things of God. He would let himself be even more despised by men and humble in his own sight, but he would be held in honor by the "slave girls" Michal had spoken of. Because of her critical attitude, Michal suffered the reproach of bearing no children to the day of her death. This is a needed reminder that a critical spirit stifles fruitfulness. Tim
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