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cherokeehippie -> RE: Aliens (the space kind) (5/27/2008 12:42:20 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GrahamCracker

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Now you're getting weird on us. Next thing--lets talk about black helicopters and men living on the sun.


Well, they say..."The truth is stranger than fiction!"

They have brainwashed us in a scientific mind view for so long that we forget that there is a spiritual world and we are in a spiritual battle between the LORD and the enemy of our souls...and this stuff is real and it does go on...and it's not just a figment of my imagination!! And yeah...there is satanic occultic stuff going on in high places! Not just teenagers dabbling in this stuff...but the real serious kind by men in power, etc..



Ps103 -> RE: Aliens (the space kind) (5/27/2008 12:51:30 PM)

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cherokeehippie -> RE: Aliens (the space kind) (5/27/2008 2:44:46 PM)

Another thing...in Revelations, it says that both the old heavens and old earth will be destroyed and that there will be a new Heavens and Earth!! I realize...mmm..that means, that when Adam and Eve sinned...it not only effected the Earth...but the whole universe, mars, etc...I don't have time right now ot look up the scripture,...but it says that the Heavens will be rolled up like a scroll...mmmmm.could that be just our galaxy?? or other galaxies?? I don't know...but somehow...the whole heavens will be destroyed and Abba will make a new one....it does makes sense...because the fallen angels and nephilim took the constellations for their own...Orion, etc..and made them into gods and goddess mythology for the ancient Sumerians, Babylonians, etc...even scripture says that the pagans worship the 'hosts of Heavens' , etc...so the LORD will destroy and make new heavens, stars, etc...as well as a new Earth! These 'beings' that claim to be 'aliens'...are just the fallen entities who were disquised as gods and goddesses in the old days...they repackage everything in a new form...and what's weird...there is a sirius cult in NASA and miltary, etc...worship of Osirius, etc....I mean...it's hidden in plain site...just look at the names of Nasa's programs...the Phoenix, etc...all occultic terms from occultic doctrine.



cow451 -> RE: Aliens (the space kind) (5/28/2008 3:31:54 PM)

OK, time for a vote. I say cherokee is pulling our virtual legs. What about the rest of ya?



cherokeehippie -> RE: Aliens (the space kind) (5/28/2008 3:47:17 PM)

No...I'm serious! Look the stuff up for yourselves!!! If you don't believe me!! I think maybe fear cause people to go into denial about these things...occult in gov. nazi's in our space program, etc...I'm not the type who would make up stuff!



cherokeehippie -> RE: Aliens (the space kind) (5/28/2008 3:49:12 PM)

And I would never make up stuff about my dad or his death!! That is sick!!



cherokeehippie -> RE: Aliens (the space kind) (5/28/2008 4:10:09 PM)

Another thing...about nephilim...Genesis 6:4....do a study on nephilim, anakim, etc...in scripture...it didn't just went on before the flood, but after, too, especially when the Israelites encountered nephilim again when entering the promise land...also, Og of Bashan, as well as Goliath, and others....

There have been giant 7 to 9 feet tall skeletons uncovered all over the world...including here in the Americas...what's weird...is as I've been learning about giants...more and more I encounter stories of giants in ancient legends..Native Am. as well as European, etc..these things were real...i know it sounds bizarre..but....as you know...a truth is established in the mouth of two or more witnesses...I was talking with some people here in town about the whole ufo thing...and started telling them about nephilim in the bible...Monty, a mild mannered man, not the type who would make up stuff...he's real serious type...he told me of a friend..working at a university...when he told her he was moving to ----- county...(the county I live in)...she told him that was where they--archaelogists, had uncovered giant skeletons..8 ft tall. It blew me away to hear that... When he moved here...he asked a certain local and they confirmed it to him..that they were there when they uncovered the skeletons....

A few days later...I was talking to another person...I had not even talked about nephilim or ufos, or anything to her...just about Eureka Springs...the haunted hotel there...and it got on her personal experience.... she told me that she experienced 'demonic' activity(so called 'haunted stuff) at the home..where she used to live...a neighbor down the street told her that he was there several years ago when archaelogists uncovered giant skeletons...again, 8 ft tall...It freaked him out and he wouldn't tell her any more...just the experience of seeing the skeletons unnerved him. She later moved away from that place...but again,...it was here in the county I live in.

Then, a THIRD person...a well known local...musican with long history family ties in the area...he told me of a family friend who uncovered an 8 ft skeleton on her property...and he got to see it...He said it had an 8 point star shell medalion on it's chest.



WesP -> RE: Aliens (the space kind) (5/28/2008 4:46:01 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cherokeehippie

No...I'm serious! Look the stuff up for yourselves!!! If you don't believe me!! I think maybe fear cause people to go into denial about these things...occult in gov. nazi's in our space program, etc...I'm not the type who would make up stuff!


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GrahamCracker -> RE: Aliens (the space kind) (5/28/2008 5:50:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cherokeehippie

They have brainwashed us in a scientific mind view for so long that we forget that there is a spiritual world and we are in a spiritual battle between the LORD and the enemy of our souls...and this stuff is real and it does go on...and it's not just a figment of my imagination!! And yeah...there is satanic occultic stuff going on in high places! Not just teenagers dabbling in this stuff...but the real serious kind by men in power, etc..


Look. I've been a Christian for some 40 years. I have listened to all kinds of "End Times" predictions during that time. If you think the UFO sightings and Anti-christ predictions have anything in common besides an overactive imagination, I'd like to see one of those End-Times things preachers actually produce something besides people with paranoid fears of Demonic Aliens appearing in their living rooms.

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mmmmmm....I figured that there are secret masonic illuminati types that control the strings of certain christian organizations, forums, today etc...just like they have done for years...in Europe, middle ages, etc. Even with a 'christian' president in office right now...who is skull and bones, etc. No wonder Jesus told us to be wise as serpents and innocent as doves!!


Cue the Twightlight Zone theme song.

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as you know...a truth is established in the mouth of two or more witnesses...I was talking with some people here in town about the whole ufo thing...and started telling them about nephilim in the...


Statements of eyewitness testimony, not fantasies.



cherokeehippie -> RE: Aliens (the space kind) (5/28/2008 7:33:07 PM)

the satanic 'alien' attacks dont' always happen in one's sleep...they can happen to people driving, traveling in their car, etc. Or while fishing in a fishing boat in a lake, etc....There can also not only be the satanic demonic spiritual aspect of abductions...but a real human and technological aspect, too...there are diffrent kinds of abductions...military abductions, etc. Even gov. military types hand in hand with demonic beings doing these things...to people...

I know of a lady....she had invited me to come visit her in Indiana one time..and immediately, I felt a check in my spirit...teh LORD told me no...don't do it" I felt that if I did...I would be in the middle of something occultic and demonic....I turned her down....well, I later found out that she and her daughter were driving on a trip one day...and experienced an 'abduction' by the demonic grays.....and that they follow them wherever they go. That blew me away that the LORD kept me from getting in the middle of that!!!

ANother lady...told of her abduction expereince where it was miiitary types that did it...not aliens...in fact...she saw what she thought was a big eye gray...then took a second look and it was a human disguised as a gray with knitted dark eyes.

I believe that some of the 'alien' ufo' rumors of Area 51 may actually be a smoke screen for something else....trading in men's souls...running of sex and occultic sex slaves, drugs, etc...



GrahamCracker -> RE: Aliens (the space kind) (5/29/2008 12:06:57 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cherokeehippie

I know of a lady....she had invited me to come visit her in Indiana one time..and immediately, I felt a check in my spirit...teh LORD told me no...don't do it" I felt that if I did...I would be in the middle of something occultic and demonic....I turned her down....well, I later found out that she and her daughter were driving on a trip one day...and experienced an 'abduction' by the demonic grays.....and that they follow them wherever they go. That blew me away that the LORD kept me from getting in the middle of that!!!


Maybe she just acted weird. I avoid those people too.

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ANother lady...told of her abduction expereince where it was miiitary types that did it...not aliens...in fact...she saw what she thought was a big eye gray...then took a second look and it was a human disguised as a gray with knitted dark eyes.

Or, maybe a nightmare following bad food.

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I believe that some of the 'alien' ufo' rumors of Area 51 may actually be a smoke screen for something else....trading in men's souls...running of sex and occultic sex slaves, drugs, etc...


That's pretty much a bunch of people capitalizing on rumors for commercial purposes, not real aliens or occultism. There are certainly people who think they see aliens but are actually being deceived. It's more akin to obsession and idolatry than any actual experience---most likely.



1dblthnk02 -> RE: Aliens (the space kind) (5/30/2008 10:22:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: cherokeehippie
I believe that some of the 'alien' ufo' rumors of Area 51 may actually be a smoke screen for something else....trading in men's souls...running of sex and occultic sex slaves, drugs, etc...

. . . Or a toxic waste dump? That's what I suspect.

As for the whole alien/abduction thing, the evidence is clearly about 98% hoaxes/hooey (it sells), <2%>1% hysteria ("true believer" hype; drug experiences; psychotic episodes), and <1% truly inexplicable.



GrahamCracker -> RE: Aliens (the space kind) (5/30/2008 4:39:48 PM)

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ORIGINAL: 1dblthnk02

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ORIGINAL: cherokeehippie
I believe that some of the 'alien' ufo' rumors of Area 51 may actually be a smoke screen for something else....trading in men's souls...running of sex and occultic sex slaves, drugs, etc...

. . . Or a toxic waste dump? That's what I suspect.

As for the whole alien/abduction thing, the evidence is clearly about 98% hoaxes/hooey (it sells), <2%>1% hysteria ("true believer" hype; drug experiences; psychotic episodes), and <1% truly inexplicable.


If it's a smoke screen for a toxic waste dump, wouldn't that be counter productive? If one wanted to dispose of toxic wastes, choosing a site that would not attract attention would be the better option.



JimboFletch -> RE: Aliens (the space kind) (5/30/2008 5:13:15 PM)

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ORIGINAL: GrahamCracker

If it's a smoke screen for a toxic waste dump, wouldn't that be counter productive? If one wanted to dispose of toxic wastes, choosing a site that would not attract attention would be the better option.

You mean like under or anywhere near Hillary's campaign headquarters?



GrahamCracker -> RE: Aliens (the space kind) (5/30/2008 9:11:05 PM)

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ORIGINAL: JimboFletch

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ORIGINAL: GrahamCracker

If it's a smoke screen for a toxic waste dump, wouldn't that be counter productive? If one wanted to dispose of toxic wastes, choosing a site that would not attract attention would be the better option.

You mean like under or anywhere near Hillary's campaign headquarters?

[:D]



still4gvn -> RE: Aliens (the space kind) (5/30/2008 11:08:55 PM)

graham cracker: is your avatar an alien?



1dblthnk02 -> RE: Aliens (the space kind) (5/31/2008 10:43:42 AM)

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ORIGINAL: GrahamCracker
If it's a smoke screen for a toxic waste dump, wouldn't that be counter productive? If one wanted to dispose of toxic wastes, choosing a site that would not attract attention would be the better option.

Back when Area 51 was built, it did not attract attention. In fact, prior to 1990, very people had even heard of Area 51. Until fairly recently, the government officially denied its existence.

Btw, I just found an easily digestible online article about Area 51 and it seems fairly credible. Check out section 12 called, "Cleaning Up Area 51": it seems I'm not too far off-base about the toxic waste.



JimboFletch -> RE: Aliens (the space kind) (6/2/2008 8:13:51 AM)

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...fairly credible...

The mantra of every conspiracy theory and every cult on earth.
[:D]



1dblthnk02 -> RE: Aliens (the space kind) (6/2/2008 10:39:10 AM)

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ORIGINAL: JimboFletch
The mantra of every conspiracy theory and every cult on earth.

Jimbo, did you actually look at the site? Unless you have, don't waste our time with an uninformed evaluation.



JimboFletch -> RE: Aliens (the space kind) (6/2/2008 11:59:32 AM)

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ORIGINAL: 1dblthnk02

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ORIGINAL: JimboFletch
The mantra of every conspiracy theory and every cult on earth.

Jimbo, did you actually look at the site? Unless you have, don't waste our time with an uninformed evaluation.

Hey, if I waste your time, just block me. Then you won't have to bother yourself with even a hint of humor in this, the less than serious, Conspiracy Central. I also hear that aluminum foil hats protect against jocularity.



cow451 -> RE: Aliens (the space kind) (6/2/2008 12:59:21 PM)

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ORIGINAL: JimboFletch

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ORIGINAL: 1dblthnk02

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ORIGINAL: JimboFletch
The mantra of every conspiracy theory and every cult on earth.

Jimbo, did you actually look at the site? Unless you have, don't waste our time with an uninformed evaluation.

Hey, if I waste your time, just block me. Then you won't have to bother yourself with even a hint of humor in this, the less than serious, Conspiracy Central. I also hear that aluminum foil hats protect against jocularity.

Jimbo, the data on aluminum foil re: jocularity is mixed.



JimboFletch -> RE: Aliens (the space kind) (6/2/2008 2:30:49 PM)

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ORIGINAL: cow451

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ORIGINAL: JimboFletch

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ORIGINAL: 1dblthnk02

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ORIGINAL: JimboFletch
The mantra of every conspiracy theory and every cult on earth.

Jimbo, did you actually look at the site? Unless you have, don't waste our time with an uninformed evaluation.

Hey, if I waste your time, just block me. Then you won't have to bother yourself with even a hint of humor in this, the less than serious, Conspiracy Central. I also hear that aluminum foil hats protect against jocularity.

Jimbo, the data on aluminum foil re: jocularity is mixed.

I'm not so sure... Have you actually seen people wearing Aluminum foil hats and smiling? The ones I know are a serious lot - WAAAAYYY serious.



1dblthnk02 -> RE: Aliens (the space kind) (6/3/2008 9:40:47 AM)

And I'll be the first to admit that I am as dry and humorless as they come. It's just that I take umbrage to allusions of aluminum foil hats, especially when we are refering to a site (my link) that actually disarms conspiracy theories about alleged secret alien contact at Area 51. Instead, the site gives a nice, reasonably brief history of the place, including the military testing that spawned the mistaken legendary alien contact stories.

But instead of looking, we just assume that ol' Mike here is just another kook who buys into the whole "space aliens & e.t. spacecraft at Area 51" government conspiracy theory, and therefore he must have mined another nut site that panders to that ilk . . .



JimboFletch -> RE: Aliens (the space kind) (6/3/2008 11:40:33 AM)

I wasn't dissing the site, only your choice of words, "fairly credible" because of the nature of this thread. Your reaction only made it worse, sort of like Barney Fife to good natured kidding.

But for the record, I didn't mean to insult the site or you.



1dblthnk02 -> RE: Aliens (the space kind) (6/3/2008 7:25:34 PM)

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ORIGINAL: JimboFletch
I wasn't dissing the site, only your choice of words, "fairly credible" because of the nature of this thread. Your reaction only made it worse, sort of like Barney Fife to good natured kidding.
But for the record, I didn't mean to insult the site or you.

Thank you. I appreciate your explanation.

Btw, the "Barney Fife" comment along side of your avatar wasn't lost on me. It was clever, but I still don't actually find it funny.
But that's just me.



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