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RE: Computers 101 / ABC Reunion Thread - 5/23/2008 11:54:37 PM
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Gang, I have a praise report..
I've been busy finding a place, and now, I'll be moving into it next week. Boy, all the good stuff I have to do like calling the gas and the light and even Direct TV (Praise God that the place will allow the Sattalite dish because many building will not allow it and its always the cable, lol). Also, I been super busy at my job because there were a lot of visitors coming in and surveying the program. Unfortnatly, we will be working until July 31st. The reason why is because the school district has to recoup the monies that were lost when we have the fridays with no kids off. Our school district is fortnate because they will not have to lay off people while districts all over California are laying off people right and left. (I just recived my 10 year pin, lol....)
I cannot wait until next month and our weeks vacation before we return to work in early July....
That's the latest news from here right now--it has also been raining here and yes, California has its share of tornadoes....for real.... 
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RE: Computers 101 / ABC Reunion Thread - 5/24/2008 5:52:37 AM
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I thought it never rains in California!
That's awesome about the new place, Gayle! See! God never failed you yet!
Day 1 down .. Day 2 to go! I am just getting up and I am so tired. My knee/foot hurt from being on it all day, though, and the wind burn is pretty bad out there. No sign ups but lots of people took info ... so we shall see.
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RE: Computers 101 / ABC Reunion Thread - 5/24/2008 11:43:45 AM
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Hi Di, I hope that all goes well with the selling at the flee market!
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Di, those trips sound like fun - I've always wanted to see New England. Have you met these relatives before? Chicago can be fun, too, but I got lost there once and ended up in Leroy Brown's neighborhood - very scary!
New England is nice, depending on where you go, and yes South Chicago can be a very dangerous place as well!
Congrats Gayle on the new place, you must be very releived!
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I thought it never rains in California!
As the song goes "it never rains in Southern California, but boy do they warn ya, when it pours, man it pours!"
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RE: Computers 101 / ABC Reunion Thread - 5/24/2008 11:44:47 AM
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That's great, Gayle. The Lord does provide.
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RE: Computers 101 / ABC Reunion Thread - 5/27/2008 10:24:19 AM
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How was everybody's Memorial Day weekend?
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RE: Computers 101 / ABC Reunion Thread - 5/28/2008 3:00:56 PM
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Trish, I know a lot of people with Fibromyalgia, including some that didn't believe it existed until they got it! I believe it is caused by a virus, but I'm not sure. There are exercises that help with it.
I worked on Mem Day and ran my hind end off!
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RE: Computers 101 / ABC Reunion Thread - 5/28/2008 5:36:13 PM
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New England is nice, depending on where you go, and yes South Chicago can be a very dangerous place as well!...
Mike, this isn't a nice comment or even respectful. As a matter of fact, it is full of media myth. I live in South Chicago... anywhere you go is dangerous where people abound... because the devil uses people. I read something the other day in a book that made me think... why is it when it the population of people in a city are black it's called "inner-city" and when the residents are white its an "urban community"... South Chicago is the same as North Chicago is the same as East Chicago as the same as West Chicago... dangerous people are everywhere and in every place... As for me and my "south side living" I have never been mugged, robbed, raped, held at gunpoint, witnessed a driveby, been in a shoot-out, seen a shoot-out, etc. Don't allow the media to be your information gatherer, let that be the life YOU live. If I believed everything I saw on the media do you know how LOW my self-esteem would be? Not only that, the media would call my experience and that of my friends and family a lie. Am I saying that the city doesn't have dangers? Of course not... there is danger everywhere... most people believe that the southside of Chicago is "bad" because it is populated with mostly Blacks. That is misconception number 1. Number 2, low income areas are high crime no matter where you are because of the mentality that comes along with poverty.
Why do I add that, because all of south Chicago isn't poor or low-income... it is a mixture just like in any city... I am so pleased and blessed that I was born and raised inner-city because if I have to be the lone wolf screaming at the ignorant and uninformed statements made by the masses I will.
Sorry... I'll exit my soapbox now... but I am really insulted by that post. Period.
I signed on to say hey to all and that I have finished moving and am settled now... back home.... in my neighborhood... that's kinda all I feel like reporting now...
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RE: Computers 101 / ABC Reunion Thread - 5/28/2008 9:15:49 PM
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Hugs, Shaunii ... I'm sure Mike didn't mean what he said the way it came across. I happen to know he dislikes crowded cities in general ... so I am guessing that he thinks of Chicago like he thinks of his own town ... a big, crowded city ... wheras New England (particularly the parts I am visiting) has lots of small towns and wide, open spaces.
I am really looking forward to seeing Chicago and to seeing YOU ... do you have my e-mail address? I'll PM it to you along with some trip details. There are some people on the forums in Northern Indiana who may pop up for a visit as well!
And for what it's worth ... if I am in a situation where I feel unsafe, I have to ask myself if my fears are racially motivated or if there is a real, LEGITIMATE reason to be scared. I have a friend who I have used to sound out these fears in the past ... for instance, he agreed that I was right to be afraid to be alone at night in certain areas of our city, including ones where he's lived, because of the crime he knows about there. I am equally afraid to be alone at night at, say, a part of Akron where most of the residents are white, and where there is an equal amount of crime due to poverty. But I've never had a reason to be afraid either because I've never been a crime victim.
Bro-in-law and Nephew fixed the mower and the kid mowed the Back 40. I was so excited to have it back on a day when the weather was nice and cool that I mowed the front 10 ... and sneezed my fool head off. Accchhhooo!
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RE: Computers 101 / ABC Reunion Thread - 5/30/2008 1:48:51 PM
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Can I post here?
A couple of years ago I was talking to some coworkers and told them I just had a customer chew my hiney off. One of them looked behind me then said, "Huh...can't tell."
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So apparently I have hiney to spare! 
Hey Tinks! Sure you can post here! Welcome!
Yeah, I'm doing the exercise thing with a rehabilitation physiologist. She's really good too. Figuring out what causes the least amount of pain etc. There's some exercises I'm not allowed to do any more as they cause too much pain. I'm not even allowed to do warm ups as they aggravate things for me. I still get 45-60 minutes of workout though.
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RE: Computers 101 / ABC Reunion Thread - 5/31/2008 1:38:34 PM
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New England is nice, depending on where you go, and yes South Chicago can be a very dangerous place as well!...
Mike, this isn't a nice comment or even respectful. As a matter of fact, it is full of media myth. I live in South Chicago... anywhere you go is dangerous where people abound... because the devil uses people. I read something the other day in a book that made me think... why is it when it the population of people in a city are black it's called "inner-city" and when the residents are white its an "urban community"... South Chicago is the same as North Chicago is the same as East Chicago as the same as West Chicago... dangerous people are everywhere and in every place... As for me and my "south side living" I have never been mugged, robbed, raped, held at gunpoint, witnessed a driveby, been in a shoot-out, seen a shoot-out, etc. Don't allow the media to be your information gatherer, let that be the life YOU live. If I believed everything I saw on the media do you know how LOW my self-esteem would be? Not only that, the media would call my experience and that of my friends and family a lie. Am I saying that the city doesn't have dangers? Of course not... there is danger everywhere... most people believe that the southside of Chicago is "bad" because it is populated with mostly Blacks. That is misconception number 1. Number 2, low income areas are high crime no matter where you are because of the mentality that comes along with poverty.
Why do I add that, because all of south Chicago isn't poor or low-income... it is a mixture just like in any city... I am so pleased and blessed that I was born and raised inner-city because if I have to be the lone wolf screaming at the ignorant and uninformed statements made by the masses I will.
Sorry... I'll exit my soapbox now... but I am really insulted by that post. Period.
I signed on to say hey to all and that I have finished moving and am settled now... back home.... in my neighborhood... that's kinda all I feel like reporting now...
Hi Shaunii, I am very sorry that I offended you, that was not my intent! I did not even know where you lived other than being in Chicago in general! I have only gone from what I have read and from what I have heard in different places. There was even a situation where a friend of mine told me of a less than fortunate situation that they had there. This was not directed at you at all! Not all places are dangerous.
Anyway, this is where I will stop. Safety is relative issue in general.
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RE: Computers 101 / ABC Reunion Thread - 5/31/2008 2:37:14 PM
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New England is nice, depending on where you go, and yes South Chicago can be a very dangerous place as well!...
Mike, this isn't a nice comment or even respectful. As a matter of fact, it is full of media myth. I live in South Chicago... anywhere you go is dangerous where people abound... because the devil uses people. I read something the other day in a book that made me think... why is it when it the population of people in a city are black it's called "inner-city" and when the residents are white its an "urban community"... South Chicago is the same as North Chicago is the same as East Chicago as the same as West Chicago... dangerous people are everywhere and in every place... As for me and my "south side living" I have never been mugged, robbed, raped, held at gunpoint, witnessed a driveby, been in a shoot-out, seen a shoot-out, etc. Don't allow the media to be your information gatherer, let that be the life YOU live. If I believed everything I saw on the media do you know how LOW my self-esteem would be? Not only that, the media would call my experience and that of my friends and family a lie. Am I saying that the city doesn't have dangers? Of course not... there is danger everywhere... most people believe that the southside of Chicago is "bad" because it is populated with mostly Blacks. That is misconception number 1. Number 2, low income areas are high crime no matter where you are because of the mentality that comes along with poverty.
Why do I add that, because all of south Chicago isn't poor or low-income... it is a mixture just like in any city... I am so pleased and blessed that I was born and raised inner-city because if I have to be the lone wolf screaming at the ignorant and uninformed statements made by the masses I will.
Sorry... I'll exit my soapbox now... but I am really insulted by that post. Period.
I signed on to say hey to all and that I have finished moving and am settled now... back home.... in my neighborhood... that's kinda all I feel like reporting now...
shaunii...i think you skipped over the "can be" in mike's post. after living and working in chicagoland for almost 18 yrs, i would disagree on a number of points in your post:
it is NOT a "media myth" that the southside can be dangerous. my daughter lives there...i have seen for myself the special triangulated police areas and lights that indicate areas where the police are instructed to respond IMMEDIATELY because of they being high-crime areas. but i also know this is not specific to the south side.
and i completely disagree that the northside is the same as the southside, or east as west. there are significant differences in all those areas...which is part of the beauty of it, don't you think?
i have never been "mugged, robbed, raped, held at gunpoint, witnessed a driveby, been in a shoot-out, seen a shoot-out, etc" on the southside. i have, however, been followed and stalked when i worked in the loop (that's the heart of chicago's business district, for those not familiar). and i've been intimidated on the el...and at the airports...and in many other places...including the southside. i have had bad experiences out in the far-west suburbs, too. (the west side of aurora can be horrible! when we first moved to the fox valley area, after just two trips to the aurora library, i wouldn't even take my kids there during the day!)
i also think your implication that mike allows the media to be his "information gatherer" was unfair. that statement could also be misconstrued as inflammatory or disrespectful...implying he (or anyone else) takes whatever they may read in the media as 'gospel" and they don't have a discerning nature, or aren't intelligent enough to investigate further or consider other perspectives.
and i think it is very dangerous to claim to know what "most people" believe...esepcially when you imply it is racially-discriminating. i do, however, believe you are accurate in saying that "low income areas are high crime no matter where you are because of the mentality that comes along with poverty."
i hope you take this in the manner in which it is intended: to simply respond to some thoughts that i found personally troubling. disagreeing with you does not mean i disrespect you. i've never read anything else you've posted, so i really have no opinion about you personally...other than you are obviously a very articulate and proud CW poster! i always applaud those who aren't afraid to be a "lone wolf screaming at the ignorant and uninformed statements made by the masses."
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RE: Computers 101 / ABC Reunion Thread - 5/31/2008 7:50:21 PM
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Mike, Kimberly... I saw the "can be" and all places CAN be dangerous. Period. People that believe that that can't be are the ones you see after tragedy strikes that says things like, "I can't believe that happened "name of city/town."
As I lived here in Chi-town my entire life I am aware that each side of town has it's own personality... and yes that is what makes it Chicago... that isn't what I am referring to and that should have been clear. I apologize if it is not. Simply apologizing for offending me because you didn't either (a) know that I live there or (b) didn't mean to insult me doesn't mean that it still wasn't offensive.
"...and yes South Chicago can be a very dangerous place as well!..." Is still offensive. Why? Because the truth of the matter is he didn't say Chicago, he said Southside... not Northside, etc. In Chicago the majority of muggings and rapes happen on the Northside of town. That sounds dangerous to me.
Did you see Mike's follow up post... I assumed... he backed up my assumption by saying this, "I have only gone from what I have read and from what I have heard in different places. There was even a situation where a friend of mine told me of a less than fortunate situation that they had there."
My point overall is simple. Cities, no matter where in the USA are dangerous. No one should walk down dark streets alone (esp women), you should carry your purse close to your body, you should be aware of your sorroundings. But just because your surroundings are unfamiliar that doesn't mean that they are dangerous.
Kim, also, I'm sorry that your daughter has had bad experiences here... I'm sure lots of people do. However, my position still stands. It hasn't happened to me. I find it funny when I watch the evening news... drive-bys and shootings are all the news show happening on the Southside of Chicago (but the news period is negative... and I mean its all depressing story after depressing story and then a final story about an animal that saves the day  ) However, it (the news) also generally only reports muggings/rapes on the Northside. However, don't you find it funny that you NEVER (at least I don't, or can't think of any) hear of anything bad happening in dowtown Chicago (which is a large area)? I don't. Bottom line, it's shopping and a tousist attraction so you can't report the crime that happens downtown because then you'd lose the tourism dollars. As I have lived on the Southside my entire life, have had best friends on the East and West sides and have frequented the North side often, which IMO is the cultural side/"personality" of the city... you know arts, expensive high-rises, etc... it's more costly to live North... but all over the city of Chicago (and I gather any city) crime happens...
We are living in a fallen world, we are fallen beings and are not living as God intended or created us to be/exist. Therefore, we must be aware that we have to be watchful wherever we are. Period. The Bible says watch and pray because your adversary the devil is seeking whom he can devour... and he uses people... last I checked people are everywhere... therefore crime happens everywhere people are... whether its blue collar,white collar, high profile, etc... it's still crime.
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RE: Computers 101 / ABC Reunion Thread - 5/31/2008 8:15:49 PM
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Mike, Kimberly... I saw the "can be" and all places CAN be dangerous. Period. People that believe that that can't be are the ones you see after tragedy strikes that says things like, "I can't believe that happened "name of city/town."
As I lived here in Chi-town my entire life I am aware that each side of town has it's own personality... and yes that is what makes it Chicago... that isn't what I am referring to and that should have been clear. I apologize if it is not. Simply apologizing for offending me because you didn't either (a) know that I live there or (b) didn't mean to insult me doesn't mean that it still wasn't offensive.
"...and yes South Chicago can be a very dangerous place as well!..." Is still offensive. Why? Because the truth of the matter is he didn't say Chicago, he said Southside... not Northside, etc. In Chicago the majority of muggings and rapes happen on the Northside of town. That sounds dangerous to me.
Did you see Mike's follow up post... I assumed... he backed up my assumption by saying this, "I have only gone from what I have read and from what I have heard in different places. There was even a situation where a friend of mine told me of a less than fortunate situation that they had there."
My point overall is simple. Cities, no matter where in the USA are dangerous. No one should walk down dark streets alone (esp women), you should carry your purse close to your body, you should be aware of your sorroundings. But just because your surroundings are unfamiliar that doesn't mean that they are dangerous.
Kim, also, I'm sorry that your daughter has had bad experiences here... I'm sure lots of people do. However, my position still stands. It hasn't happened to me. I find it funny when I watch the evening news... drive-bys and shootings are all the news show happening on the Southside of Chicago (but the news period is negative... and I mean its all depressing story after depressing story and then a final story about an animal that saves the day ) However, it (the news) also generally only reports muggings/rapes on the Northside. However, don't you find it funny that you NEVER (at least I don't, or can't think of any) hear of anything bad happening in dowtown Chicago (which is a large area)? I don't. Bottom line, it's shopping and a tousist attraction so you can't report the crime that happens downtown because then you'd lose the tourism dollars. As I have lived on the Southside my entire life, have had best friends on the East and West sides and have frequented the North side often, which IMO is the cultural side/"personality" of the city... you know arts, expensive high-rises, etc... it's more costly to live North... but all over the city of Chicago (and I gather any city) crime happens...
We are living in a fallen world, we are fallen beings and are not living as God intended or created us to be/exist. Therefore, we must be aware that we have to be watchful wherever we are. Period. The Bible says watch and pray because your adversary the devil is seeking whom he can devour... and he uses people... last I checked people are everywhere... therefore crime happens everywhere people are... whether its blue collar,white collar, high profile, etc... it's still crime.
just a few points...
1) i don't believe mike backed-up your assumption...in fact, he specifically said he was basing his statement on things he had heard and read from different places (note the plural), as well as a friend's personal experience. (mike, please correct me if i'm wrong here)
2) my name is kimberly. this is something else that's been discussed on CW...some people really don't care for variations of their name...therefore, it's really just respectful that you address them as they have identified themself. (you had no way of knowing...but i HATE the name 'kim.' and i have...and will continue...to correct people who address me as such. lol)
3) i never indicated my daughter has had 'bad experiences' there. she LOVES living on the southside. she was also brought up knowing all the things you mentioned: not walking alone at night thru certain areas, keeping your bag/purse across your body, etc. she's also lived on the northside and wouldn't go back to that 'yuppyville' for anything. lol
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RE: Computers 101 / ABC Reunion Thread - 5/31/2008 9:17:20 PM
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However, it (the news) also generally only reports muggings/rapes on the Northside. However, don't you find it funny that you NEVER (at least I don't, or can't think of any) hear of anything bad happening in dowtown Chicago (which is a large area)?
Oprah Winfrey: had a show once where a woman was raped in downtown Chicago. People watched, but no one did anything at all. Also, Oprah has also admitted on TV movies, etc. that South Chicago is a tough place to live and grow up as well.
Tourist books: Fodor's back in 1992 said to avoid the South side. Being on a tour bus back then, they had to diverst from the usual path and go a few blocks further "south" than usual. The area looked run down at the time.
2006 & 2007: I visited Chicago twice, stayed at the Hyatt McCormack Place the first time, and stayed at the Best Western Grant Park the second time. The area had changed a lot! Back in '92, Fodor's Guide said if staying at the BW Grant Park to take a cab there at night. When I was there last Summer, I walked around without worrying about safety much at all.
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"...and yes South Chicago can be a very dangerous place as well!..." Is still offensive. Why? Because the truth of the matter is he didn't say Chicago, he said Southside... not Northside, etc. In Chicago the majority of muggings and rapes happen on the Northside of town. That sounds dangerous to me.
Now I could have just as easily said stay away from Uptown and Wrigleyville as well. Case and point, I was really only initially responding to the other poster. I could have also said the West side also.
Anyway, not all areas of the South Side are bad, and thank you for correcting me on that. However, generally speaking, it is not an area that a tourist should be hanging around in at all.
This is the very last I am saying on this subject. I said my peace as well.
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RE: Computers 101 / ABC Reunion Thread - 6/1/2008 1:25:29 PM
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Not that I'd be going there any time soon, but I don't think Chicago is on my wish list to go to anymore.
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RE: Computers 101 / ABC Reunion Thread - 6/1/2008 1:36:47 PM
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Nah, Chicago is just like any other big city. I have enjoyed the times I was in Chicago. It's a great place to visit.
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RE: Computers 101 / ABC Reunion Thread - 6/1/2008 3:29:20 PM
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I LOVE Chicago!!!!!!!!!! I love any major city for that matter. NYC is the best.
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