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RE: Israel Attack on Iran 'Unavoidable': Olmert Deputy - 7/30/2008 1:50:54 PM
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Israel's PM announces he will resign.
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RE: Israel Attack on Iran 'Unavoidable': Olmert Deputy - 7/31/2008 3:22:14 PM
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The problem was with Ariel Sharon, the biggest obstacle to peace in Israel at the time.
The biggest obstacle to peace in Israel is the ongoing murder of innocents by Islamic suicide bombers,rockets,riots, and their endless blame games.
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RE: Israel Attack on Iran 'Unavoidable': Olmert Deputy - 8/1/2008 12:26:34 AM
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The problem was with Ariel Sharon, the biggest obstacle to peace in Israel at the time.
The biggest obstacle to peace in Israel is the ongoing murder of innocents by Islamic suicide bombers,rockets,riots, and their endless blame games.
Given Olmert's political fortunes, or more accurately, misfortunes, I've been speculating, had Sharon not had that coma, what would The Kadima Party looked like today, given Ariel Sharon's former allegiances with The Likud. Any thoughts?
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RE: Israel Attack on Iran 'Unavoidable': Olmert Deputy - 8/1/2008 8:50:17 PM
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Youths contribute to advancement of Third Temple
Jerusalem’s Temple Institute takes biblical statement ‘build me a Temple and I shall dwell amongst you’ literally, enlisting hundreds of teens for this endeavor
Kobi Nahshoni
Published: 07.31.08, 14:28 / Israel Jewish Scene
Mourning over the destruction of Jerusalem is normal in the month of Av, but at the Temple Mount and Land of Israel Faith Movement all focus is on the “big day” - the day in which the Third Temple will be built.
As part of the preparations, hundreds of teenagers are expected to sign the “Temple Treaty” and to proclaim, “We commit to doing everything in our power to abide by this commandment and to devote at least half an hour a week toward this effort.”
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RE: Israel Attack on Iran 'Unavoidable': Olmert Deputy - 8/1/2008 8:52:21 PM
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Hamas' Christian convert: I've left a society that sanctifies terror
By Avi Issacharoff
A moment before beginning his supper, Masab, son of West Bank Hamas leader Sheikh Hassan Yousef, glances at the friend who has accompanied him to the restaurant where we met. They whisper a few words and then say grace, thanking God and Jesus for putting food on their plates.
It takes a few seconds to digest this sight: The son of a Hamas MP who is also the most popular figure in that extremist Islamic organization, a young man who assisted his father for years in his political activities, has become a rank-and-file Christian. "I'm now called Joseph," he says at the outset.
Masab knows that he has little hope of returning to visit the Holy Land in this lifetime. "I know that I'm endangering my life and am even liable to lose my father, but I hope that he'll understand this and that God will give him and my family patience and willingness to open their eyes to Jesus and to Christianity. Maybe one day I'll be able to return to Palestine and to Ramallah with Jesus, in the Kingdom of God."
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U.S. revokes visas for 3 Gaza Fulbright scholars - 8/6/2008 7:30:50 AM
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U.S. revokes visas for 3 Gaza Fulbright scholars
GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - Three Palestinian Fulbright scholars have had their American entry visas revoked after "new information" was received about them, a U.S. diplomat said on Tuesday.
Visas for the trio, along with a fourth Palestinian student from Gaza who had hoped to come to the U.S. under a different program, were approved after Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice intervened in June after Israel refused to let them leave Gaza for interviews.
"There were four Palestinians who were issued visas about whom we then received additional information," State Department spokesman Gonzalo Gallegos said. "We decided that we needed to take a closer and harder look at them in light of the additional information we received."
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RE: U.S. revokes visas for 3 Gaza Fulbright scholars - 8/6/2008 10:43:08 AM
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"There were four Palestinians who were issued visas about whom we then received additional information," State Department spokesman Gonzalo Gallegos said. "We decided that we needed to take a closer and harder look at them in light of the additional information we received."
And this is a problem?
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RE: U.S. revokes visas for 3 Gaza Fulbright scholars - 8/6/2008 11:09:57 AM
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My question is, what is the information and where did they get it from? The Israelis hate the Palestinians and will do whatever in their power to keep them down.
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RE: U.S. revokes visas for 3 Gaza Fulbright scholars - 8/6/2008 11:21:44 AM
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GAZA CITY, Gaza Strip - Three Palestinian Fulbright scholars have had their American entry visas revoked after "new information" was received about them, a U.S. diplomat said on Tuesday.
Not a problem in my view.
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RE: U.S. revokes visas for 3 Gaza Fulbright scholars - 8/6/2008 11:23:54 AM
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Might I ask why it is not a problem?
Should not all of this been thought through before the visas were issued? One person had already landed in the U.S.
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RE: U.S. revokes visas for 3 Gaza Fulbright scholars - 8/6/2008 11:25:52 AM
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The Israelis hate the Palestinians and will do whatever in their power to keep them down.
Really? All of them are doing this hating?
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RE: U.S. revokes visas for 3 Gaza Fulbright scholars - 8/6/2008 11:27:20 AM
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Rephrase: The Israeli gov't hates the Palestinians.
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RE: U.S. revokes visas for 3 Gaza Fulbright scholars - 8/6/2008 11:30:18 AM
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Rephrase: The Israeli gov't hates the Palestinians.
Yea..I would hate people who continued to send their men women and children into my lands with bombs strapped on their chests blowing up my markets and schools. Or the same people who launch rockets on a near daily basis into my lands. A people who SUPPORT these actions, rather than help us fight against the supposidly rouge few who are doing these murdering actions. Gee...I would hate a people like that too.
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RE: U.S. revokes visas for 3 Gaza Fulbright scholars - 8/6/2008 11:34:49 AM
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Rephrase: The Israeli gov't hates the Palestinians.
Yea..I would hate people who continued to send their men women and children into my lands with bombs strapped on their chests blowing up my markets and schools. Or the same people who launch rockets on a near daily basis into my lands. A people who SUPPORT these actions, rather than help us fight against the supposidly rouge few who are doing these murdering actions. Gee...I would hate a people like that too.
Children?!? That's a new one on me.
Does God hate these people?
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RE: U.S. revokes visas for 3 Gaza Fulbright scholars - 8/6/2008 11:39:54 AM
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Children?!?
Yes, the children who are indoctrinated from before kindergarten age to become martyrs to the "cause". The links have been posted in here many times in the past.
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RE: U.S. revokes visas for 3 Gaza Fulbright scholars - 8/6/2008 11:50:04 AM
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But Stephanos said that children were being sent with bombs strapped to their chest. There is no proof of that. That's slander.
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RE: U.S. revokes visas for 3 Gaza Fulbright scholars - 8/6/2008 12:01:39 PM
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But Stephanos said that children were being sent with bombs strapped to their chest. There is no proof of that. That's slander.
Actually, there are many documented attacks of Palestinian minors being sent as suicide bombers. The youngest that managed to blow himself up is Issa Bdeir, who was 16 at the time. Many were caught, like Hussam Abdo, who was a mentally handicapped 16 year old that soldiers stopped at a checkpoint with 18lbs of explosives strapped to his chest. Or like Abdullah Quran, who was sent with a bomb in his bag at the age of 12. Or the 15 year old who was caught in 2004 in Dir-Hana wearing an explosive belt. Meh, I'm getting tired of listing. Go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_suicide_bombers_in_the_Israeli-Palestinian_conflict yourself.
Unless you disagree with international law that defines "children" as anyone under 18?
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RE: U.S. revokes visas for 3 Gaza Fulbright scholars - 8/7/2008 5:45:47 AM
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That site you linked to doesn't indicate many. It said 9 between 2000 and 2004. Sure sounds like "a lot" to me.
IOW, it's irrelevant to the discussion.
I will still contend that both sides are guilty of just as much violence against each other.
I think Olmert has done the most good toward peace (with the exception of the Lebanon incident) in the region. It's a shame he's being forced out. As long as they don't get another Sharon (who should be tried for war crimes).
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RE: U.S. revokes visas for 3 Gaza Fulbright scholars - 8/7/2008 8:49:45 AM
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You deny that kids are used as human bombs and asked for proof. You get the facts. Then you dismiss it as irrelevant.
But carry on, find some more Israeli slanderous articles and link away... 
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RE: U.S. revokes visas for 3 Gaza Fulbright scholars - 8/7/2008 3:03:48 PM
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Oh, I forgot. Can't place any facts about the Israelis either because whatever they do is okay because after all, they are "God's Chosen People." God will bless those who bless Israel, right?
Forget the ragheads. Just let them all go to Hell. There's no Christians in Gaza either, are there.
Bunch of malarkey, if you ask me.
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RE: U.S. revokes visas for 3 Gaza Fulbright scholars - 8/7/2008 3:25:14 PM
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Talk about irrelevant to the discussion....
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RE: U.S. revokes visas for 3 Gaza Fulbright scholars - 8/18/2008 10:40:10 PM
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Temple temptations
Aug 14th 2008 | JERUSALEM
From The Economist print edition
The issue of Jerusalem’s holiest site may again be dividing Jews
THE lead singer, with yarmulke, beard and guitar, appears with a sheep on the cover of the latest record by Lechatchila, a religious-rock group popular among Orthodox young Israelis. “Don’t stare at me,” the lyrics go. “The Temple is sure to be rebuilt right now. We’ve got to prepare, to believe, to make the redemption happen.”
For two millennia, ever since the Temple in Jerusalem was destroyed by the Romans, Jews have continued to study, write and indeed sing about the intricate rituals of service and sacrifice, in the belief that one day the Messiah would come and the Temple would be rebuilt. Meanwhile, the faithful were forbidden even to walk on the Holy Mount, let alone worship there.
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RE: U.S. revokes visas for 3 Gaza Fulbright scholars - 8/19/2008 11:38:47 AM
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We need to tell them that the Temple is not necessary.
That the Messiah has already come.
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RE: U.S. revokes visas for 3 Gaza Fulbright scholars - 8/21/2008 5:37:59 AM
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Mahmoud Darwish, Leading Palestinian Poet, Is Dead at 67
JERUSALEM — Mahmoud Darwish, whose searing lyrics on Palestinian exile and tender verse on the human condition led him to be widely viewed as the pre-eminent man of Palestinian letters as well as one of the greatest contemporary Arab poets, died Saturday night in Houston after complications from heart surgery. He was 67.
Mr. Darwish, a heavy smoker, was known to suffer from health problems. Still, his death was received among Palestinians with shock and despair.
Mahmoud Abbas, the Palestinian president, declared three days of mourning on Sunday, saying that Mr. Darwish was “the pioneer of the modern Palestinian cultural project,” adding, “Words cannot describe the depth of sadness in our hearts.”
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