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To Circ or Not To Circ


We did circumcise
  42% (48)
We will circumcise
  17% (20)
We didn't circumcise
  24% (28)
We won't circumcise
  3% (4)
We are split on our decision
  7% (9)
We have not even talked about it....
  0% (1)
What is circumcision?
  0% (0)
Did circ and regret it...
  1% (2)
didn't circ and regret it...
  0% (1)


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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 2/8/2008 12:13:12 PM   
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Just depends on what you are comfortable with and what your ped agrees to. Some peds refer you to a urologist because they themselves don't think it's worth it.


Our hospital has a doctor who does most of the circs as well as some delieveries. I'm not sure if his specialty is OBGYN or Family Practice, but he's been doing it for many years. There's never been a problem with us delaying for a few days except if day 8 happened on a weekend. It's more inconvenience for us than them, anyway.

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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 2/8/2008 1:11:31 PM   
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My OBGYNs did both my kids' cricumcisions.

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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 2/26/2008 12:22:26 PM   
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I'm really struggling with this lately. DH is an MD and wants it done - he feels our son wouldn't want to look "different" from his dad, and that he might feel weird in locker room situations (even though fewer and fewer babies are circumcised these days). This is one of those situations that I feel I have to give in to DH since he is a man and this is a man thing, but I really don't like the reasons he gave.

I just wonder if it should be an individual's choice (though I know it is much more painful and complicated to have it done when men are older). Of course it doesn't help that I watched the little blurb on youtube from Birth As We Know It about circumcision. It is obviously biased against circ. and made me feel like I'd be doing nothing short of letting someone torture our baby if we have him circumcised.

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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 2/26/2008 12:29:06 PM   
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I'm really struggling with this lately. DH is an MD and wants it done - he feels our son wouldn't want to look "different" from his dad, and that he might feel weird in locker room situations (even though fewer and fewer babies are circumcised these days).



I have never understood this reasoning. My father certainly never stood with my brother and compared willies, and my husband has never done so with my son (and my son is 18). When might they be naked together anyway, and even if it was in a locker room, would they really be standing around comparing willies? Wouldn't they just be showering, keeping themselves to themselves, and getting changed?

I don't think it is a man thing at all - I think it's about the rights of the child. I read somewhere that originally in America the Puritans encouraged circumcision to deter the child from masturbating in later life, because it reduced sensitivity in that area, and that that is why it became so widespread in America (while not being widespread elsewhere except in Israel/Jewish communities).

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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 2/26/2008 12:31:33 PM   
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I mentioned that it might affect our baby as far as sensation to DH as well. He thinks that is a good thing. I don't understand his reasons either, but then I'm not a man. He's adamant about it, so I don't really know what I can do.

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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 2/26/2008 12:39:29 PM   
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I mentioned that it might affect our baby as far as sensation to DH as well. He thinks that is a good thing.



Did you ask him why?

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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 2/26/2008 12:44:11 PM   
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My DH feels strongly about it too. He has been very supportive of all of my "crunchy" ideas (including home birth and cloth diapering) but he will not back down on this issue. He also thinks the decreased sensation is a good thing, and he gave a reason that I'm not going to post here.

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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 2/26/2008 12:51:02 PM   
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Yep. Same here. I don't think he is going to back down, so I am trying to find a way to be okay with it. I would certainly insist on local analgesia and meeting the doctor who does it beforehand (after getting the nurses' recommendations).

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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 2/26/2008 12:59:58 PM   
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I'd be interested to know the reason, if either of you would like to pm me (I'm married to an uncirc'd man, as are most Brit men, and have an uncirc'd 18yo son).

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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 2/26/2008 1:02:00 PM   
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Yep. Same here. I don't think he is going to back down, so I am trying to find a way to be okay with it. I would certainly insist on local analgesia and meeting the doctor who does it beforehand (after getting the nurses' recommendations).




Trouble is, local anaesthesia makes the wound likely to bleed more.

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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 2/26/2008 1:19:39 PM   
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Well, I don't really believe his reasoning (as far as sensitivity) is right, but he won't change his mind no matter what anyone says.

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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 2/26/2008 1:23:39 PM   
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Well, I don't really believe his reasoning (as far as sensitivity) is right, but he won't change his mind no matter what anyone says.




If it was me, I wouldn't be the one to back down (and I'd be the one mostly holding the baby, so would stick to my guns). But then I am probably more bolshy than you.

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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 2/26/2008 1:26:46 PM   
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LOL - I had to look up bolshy!

I think it is mostly that I can tell when he is putting his foot down about something. If I tried to argue about it, it wouldn't go anywhere but downhill.

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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 2/26/2008 1:35:57 PM   
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Don't argue then - just state you're not changing your mind but don't want to argue about it!

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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 2/26/2008 2:13:44 PM   
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lily, if you need encouragement, you can pm me. I have never even brought it up for debate 'cause I already know it is non-negotiable in dh's mind. We have discussed it in the context about what various cultures do and how people feel about it, but he, too, is adamant. I don't believe it's torture, and it's going to be done, I think he is totally right to have it done while they're babies and will forget about it (he was circed as a teen...not fun!).

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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 2/26/2008 3:15:35 PM   
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I don't believe it's torture, and it's going to be done, I think he is totally right to have it done while they're babies and will forget about it (he was circed as a teen...not fun!).


Thanks Maggie. That is what I am needing to hear since it doesn't seem it will be negotiable in our house either. May I ask why he decided to be circ'd when he was a teen?

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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 2/26/2008 4:40:43 PM   
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I have to say that we are struggling with circing or not. I saw a video of a circumcision and was appalled. When hubby saw it, he too was very shaken. We had no idea. We are basically of the thought on the biblical side. I have told him what I thought, I do not want our boys circ'ed. But if he makes a final decision and wants them circ'ed I will follow him in this. He is still trying to make up his mind right now. I am trying not to sway him in either way. He realizes that with the different pregnancy, this might very well be a boy, so we are preparing ourselves.

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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 2/26/2008 5:51:34 PM   
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my hubby was the only one out of his 3 brothers and his dad not to be circ'd and he said he had no problem growing up having one that was different. He liked it because his was always a little bigger He now likes to tease his brothers that he is the one who is getting more satisfaction then them. So hubby was dead against circ'ing.

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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 2/26/2008 8:02:19 PM   
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May I ask why he decided to be circ'd when he was a teen?


For him it was a cultural thing/rite of passage.

However, he believes it is a cleanliness and health issue (particularly in developing countries where he is from), and thinks it shouldn't wait until the teen years. Little boys are even less likely to bathe properly than young men.

It is certainly not a pleasant event, at least not the way it's done in most hospitals. However, having had three boys circed, IMO they are more enraged about being in the restraint. They all started screaming bloody murder the minute they were laid in it. They were given two forms of local anaesthetic and it was done very quickly.
I only watched the first one, because it does *look* gruesome. Anything involving blood does.

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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 3/7/2008 9:47:28 PM   
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Is it REALLY true that men who are Not circ' have more sensation?

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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 3/7/2008 11:21:40 PM   
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The only way to determine that is to poll men who have been circumcised after becoming sexually active. So you only have small group of people to survey and then how do you account for differences due to age, multiple partners, just normal variations in intimacy etc. Not to mention the fact that it is subjective and inherently hard to quantify. So IMO at least it is not a particularly good reason/concern for not circumcising. Hope that makes sense, I am not sure I can say much more without violating TOS.

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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 3/8/2008 7:51:03 AM   
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Is it REALLY true that men who are Not circ' have more sensation?


I'd say it is highly likely. If the tip is not protected, its top layer of tissue, the epithelium, becomes dried-out and cornified, and since one of its major functions is sensation detection, many conclude that it becomes desensitised and sensation is decreased.

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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 3/8/2008 12:17:07 PM   
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Is it REALLY true that men who are Not circ' have more sensation?


I don't believe it.

As a pp said, it would be awfully hard to come up with a study that could even come close to proving it.

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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 3/8/2008 1:13:31 PM   
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Is it REALLY true that men who are Not circ' have more sensation?

I don't believe it.

As a pp said, it would be awfully hard to come up with a study that could even come close to proving it.




Is the skin on the sole of your feet, which gets constantly rubbed as you walk, as sensitive as the skin, say, on the inside of your arm, or the side of your face or your neck (or anywhere where the skin is soft, and doesn't have pressure put on it?

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RE: To Circ or Not To Circ - 3/8/2008 1:32:48 PM   
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"skin" can't feel on it's own anyway...it's nerves that feel. As someone with nerve damage I can say that having less nerves doesn't affect the feeling in the ones I do have. (In my case it affects the muscle movement, but in the case of a penis I don't think that would be the case)

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