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Looks like we are about to let the media pick our next ... - 10/26/2008 9:55:12 AM
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Psalms274
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I am so sad in the way the media has covered this election. Letting the side they hope will win to pass on so many issue, yet nit picking the opponent, often making issues when there is none, only to retract on page 19 where no one will see. They have such a strong influence based on years of goodwill ... yet they are no longer a reliable source for anything when they have a clear agenda. Any story can be spun ... and they have spun away.
Here's a very good article by Pat Buchanan. He talks about the bias. The Washington Post carried a story on the media bias.
Do you think you have been swayed by what you hear in the press? Are you sure?
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RE: Looks like we are about to let the media pick our n... - 10/26/2008 10:18:23 AM
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This is why I always make sure to get a good dose of non-mainstream media outlets in my daily news grind.
And this is also why I understand CNN, MSNBC, etc.. are indeed biased and one-sided.
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RE: Looks like we are about to let the media pick our n... - 10/26/2008 10:46:56 AM
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One of the posters on this site, yesterday, commented that many of us here get our information from Fox News, Hannity and Rush. The poster then went on to say that all of these other sources of media are liars.
Seems to me that those of us who do listen to the the previously mentioned media sources tend to be better informed. We are subject to the mainstream media in addition to choosing to listen to Rush or Hannity or view Fox News. We tend to be better versed on issues as Rush and Hannity and several other talk radio people actually incite and encourage people to think for themselves. Whereas, many of the mainstream media seem to report facts as they want us to see them and then give opinions on what we're suposed to think about the matters they discuss.
I think this year will go down in hisotory as the year we lost the media. The bias for Obama has been so prevalent in this election. It was apparent during the primary. Obama was sweeping the nation. As the primaries moved on, there were some things about him that began to be uncovered by talk radio and conservative media. Yet, the mainstream media wouldn't seem to touch any of it. It's rather apparent that the media carried him through the primaries past Hillary.
McCain also seemed to be the media's choice for the GOP ticket. He is seen as someone who will reach across the aisle. He's viewed as less rigid than most conservative politicians. He is a republican they can live with. Yet, now that he's matched up against Obama, their love for McCain has waned.
The mainstream media is no longer objective. They are not interested in truth. They have become part of the political machine to force an agenda on the populace. Ultimately, that agenda is socialism. Socialism has been brought to us via the media under the guise of environmentalism for the past 30 years. Look at how nearly all of us have come to believe that global warming is caused by human behavior and that we can fix the problem. If the earth is as old as many scientists believe, how can we say for certain that temperature changes are not cyclical and are a result of greenhouse gases?
Look at the acceptance of homosexuality as a normal lifestyle. The media has fed us this garbage over a long period of time. Like frogs, we've been sitting in the pot not feeling the water come to the boiling point.
When we consume more media than we do scripture, is it any wonder we're in the state we're in?
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RE: Looks like we are about to let the media pick our n... - 10/26/2008 10:49:28 AM
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Yes, it is a very sad situation. If I've learned one thing this year, it is that the media bias towards the left is very sadly real (I once scoffed at the notion- how wrong I turned out to be!). The harsh treatment of Sarah Palin compared to the kid gloves (if even that) treament for Obama and Biden has been one of the most disgusting things I have seen in my life.
The so-called mainstream media is no more trustworthy than an average con man.
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RE: Looks like we are about to let the media pick our n... - 10/26/2008 12:02:28 PM
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The mainstream media is no longer objective. They are not interested in truth. They have become part of the political machine to force an agenda on the populace.
The mainstream media was never objective. In the past, it was far worse, with political parties owning some of the newspapers. When John Quincy Adams was running against Andrew Jackson, a newspaper ran a story that said:
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"General Jackson's mother was a COMMON PROSTITUTE," (capital letters theirs, not mine), and that his father was "a MULATTO MAN."
I'd say that with the proliferation of news outlets, things are better now than they used to be.
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RE: Looks like we are about to let the media pick our n... - 10/26/2008 12:09:48 PM
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The Media doesn't pick who will be President, God does.
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RE: Looks like we are about to let the media pick our n... - 10/26/2008 12:29:06 PM
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This is why I always make sure to get a good dose of non-mainstream media outlets in my daily news grind.
And this is also why I understand CNN, MSNBC, etc.. are indeed biased and one-sided.
The news media has always leaned one direction or another. Newspapers used to be viewed as either a Democrat or a Republican publication because this is how they presented themselves. I find our local rag to be more Democrat than Republican, but it has advocated both conservative and liberal points of view.
And this is also why I understand CNN, MSNBC, etc.. are indeed biased and one-sided.
And so is Fox News.
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RE: Looks like we are about to let the media pick our n... - 10/26/2008 3:32:35 PM
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The Media doesn't pick who will be President, God does.
I'd be more inclined to say that God lets us pick the President, for better or for worse.
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RE: Looks like we are about to let the media pick our n... - 10/26/2008 3:41:04 PM
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The Media doesn't pick who will be President, God does.
I'd be more inclined to say that God lets us pick the President, for better or for worse.
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He didn't let the Israelites pick the Kings. When the Israelites asked for a king, God picked Saul. God even went so far as to tell them what a bad king Saul was going to be and the people wanted him anyway. The people wanted a earthly king they could see. I wonder what things would be like today if they hadn't asked for a king?
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RE: Looks like we are about to let the media pick our n... - 10/26/2008 3:44:31 PM
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And this is also why I understand CNN, MSNBC, etc.. are indeed biased and one-sided.
I don't agree with you on CNN, but MSNBC has definiately become more and more slanted to the left. They're now the polar oposite of FOX.
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RE: Looks like we are about to let the media pick our n... - 10/26/2008 3:54:06 PM
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Here's a very good article by Pat Buchanan. He talks about the bias. The Washington Post carried a story on the media bias.
I'm not convinced by Buchanan's article. One thing that stuck out to me, right away, was his comment on how Joe Biden warned of how Obama will be tested early on in his Presidency, and how (according to Buchanan), nobody caught it.
On the contrary, SNL had a hilarious skit on this comment that featured "Joe Biden" calling out vague prophecies like this at a convention as though he was Elijah. The news media also hit him on it (though not as hard as they have other things with the other people involved in the campaign).
As for the Post story, it even says WHY some of the stories towards McCain were more negative. His waffling on the faultering economy hurt him.
The Post's story also says:
"While some will seize on these findings as evidence that the media are pro-Obama, the study says they actually contain "a strong suggestion that winning in politics begets winning coverage, thanks in part to the relentless tendency of the press to frame its coverage of national elections as running narratives about the relative position of the candidates in the polls ... Obama's numbers are similar to what we saw for John Kerry four years ago, and McCain's numbers are almost identical to what we saw eight years ago for Democrat Al Gore."
So this ISN'T about the media being Pro-Obama, nor do I believe it is evidence of the such.
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RE: Looks like we are about to let the media pick our n... - 10/26/2008 4:31:20 PM
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He didn't let the Israelites pick the Kings. When the Israelites asked for a king, God picked Saul. God even went so far as to tell them what a bad king Saul was going to be and the people wanted him anyway. The people wanted a earthly king they could see. I wonder what things would be like today if they hadn't asked for a king?
Do you see the irony in this?
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RE: Looks like we are about to let the media pick our n... - 10/26/2008 5:13:01 PM
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The mainstream media is no longer objective. They are not interested in truth. They have become part of the political machine to force an agenda on the populace.
This has ALWAYS been the case in the media. It's simply more apparent now.
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As the primaries moved on, there were some things about him that began to be uncovered by talk radio and conservative media. Yet, the mainstream media wouldn't seem to touch any of it.
Perhaps, this was due to the fact that the right wing media (Fox News, Hannity, Rush, O'Reilly, etc.) kept harping on the same erroneous information that was already fact-checked as incorrect for months on end. How many times can you claim that Obama is a muslim, not born in America, neglects a brother he barely knows in Kenya, wants to teach homosexuality to children, is a terrorist, a socialist, etc. before people see these media outlets (and their followers) as a joke.
I would agree that Obama became the media darling early in the primaries and that he has had more coverage than McCain. Much of that, IMO is due in part to the fact that we have never had an african-american candidate win their party's nomination so that is indeed a historical event in american politics. I disagree with the belief that Sarah Palin has had more scrutiny than Obama or even Joe Biden.
IMO, it is SHE who has been treated with kid gloves, and things like Troopergate or spending tax-payer monies to take her kids with her on trips, or her lack of experience have been glossed over by the media. I think the only thing we don't know about Obama is whether he wears boxers or tiddy whities.
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When we consume more media than we do scripture, is it any wonder we're in the state we're in?
I couldn't agree with this statement more. I would add that when we expect our government to teach our kids biblical morals and expect our government to save us, we will always be disappointed. Perhaps an Obama victory will bring the church back to it's roots and we can take the words of the book of James to heart when it says "Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world."
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RE: Looks like we are about to let the media pick our n... - 10/26/2008 5:28:06 PM
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The media has a horrible record in calling the election. I thought surely after the last presidential election they would not make the same mistake twice.
Thank goodness it is the voters who make the decision not the media. The voters also make the decision as to where they obtain their information. I am praying that we some very informed voters. People who are choosing the role of government rather than a personality contest.
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RE: Looks like we are about to let the media pick our n... - 10/26/2008 5:29:02 PM
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Perhaps, this was due to the fact that the right wing media (Fox News, Hannity, Rush, O'Reilly, etc.) kept harping on the same erroneous information that was already fact-checked as incorrect for months on end.
Who fact checked information? There have been may things that have been brought up by talk radio that the mainstream media has either swept under the rug or dismissed. What concerns me, however, is when Obama gets caught in an association like he did with Rev. Wright, he lies and says he knew nothing about the man's message. He then throws him under the bus after having been mentored by the man for 20 years.
I don't trust the fact checkers in the mainstream media as they seem to have an agenda.
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Much of that, IMO is due in part to the fact that we have never had an african-american candidate win their party's nomination so that is indeed a historical event in american politics
So, you're saying this campaign is about race? Obama and the media keeps saying it's not about race. Why does it matter what color his skin is? His ideas are not good for the country. His race is a moot point.
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I disagree with the belief that Sarah Palin has had more scrutiny than Obama or even Joe Biden.
What do we know about Michelle Obama? How come we never hear about her public life, about the things she has said regarding not being proud of this country until her husband gets the nomination? What do we know about their kids? What about his mother, his grandmother? Why has the media not brought up Biden's plagiarism?
I find your statement quite ironic in that we know Todd Palin had a DWI more than 20 years ago, that Bristol Palin is pregnant at 17, that troopergate hit the national news instead of being isolated to Alaska like most Alaska stories. Why do we know Joe the plumber doesn't have a plumber's license? Why do we know anything about Joe the plumber other than he had the courage to ask a good question?
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I couldn't agree with this statement more. I would add that when we expect our government to teach our kids biblical morals and expect our government to save us, we will always be disappointed.
And putting Obama in the Whitehouse will assure that the government assumes primary responsibility for teaching our kids. They will learn that homosexuality is an acceptable lifestyle, that abortion on demand is a good choice of contraception. Perhaps that's why so many of us are disappointed with Obama's message. He wants more government, we want less. And you still favor the guy?
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RE: Looks like we are about to let the media pick our n... - 10/26/2008 5:33:09 PM
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And putting Obama in the Whitehouse will assure that the government assumes primary responsibility for teaching our kids. They will learn that homosexuality is an acceptable lifestyle, that abortion on demand is a good choice of contraception.
Good to see you're deep in the Halloween spirit of telling ghost stories early this week.
If it weren't for homosexuality (which of course, Obama invented) and abortion rights (ditto) I fear many posters in these forums would have nothing to talk about.
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[Obama] wants more government, we want less.
Obama would be hard-pressed to match the rate of government expansion set by the Bush Administration.
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RE: Looks like we are about to let the media pick our n... - 10/26/2008 5:40:49 PM
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And putting Obama in the Whitehouse will assure that the government assumes primary responsibility for teaching our kids. They will learn that homosexuality is an acceptable lifestyle, that abortion on demand is a good choice of contraception.
Good to see you're deep in the Halloween spirit of telling ghost stories early this week.
If it weren't for homosexuality (which of course, Obama invented) and abortion rights (ditto) I fear many posters in these forums would have nothing to talk about.
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[Obama] wants more government, we want less.
Obama would be hard-pressed to match the rate of government expansion set by the Bush Administration.
You must have already gone trick or treating then. You should have double checked your candy before eating. Their lacing it with the Kool-Aid dontcha know. And, how could he be hard pressed to match the rate of GW when he's not in office yet?
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RE: Looks like we are about to let the media pick our n... - 10/26/2008 6:02:49 PM
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He didn't let the Israelites pick the Kings. When the Israelites asked for a king, God picked Saul. God even went so far as to tell them what a bad king Saul was going to be and the people wanted him anyway. The people wanted a earthly king they could see. I wonder what things would be like today if they hadn't asked for a king?
Do you see the irony in this?
Indeed I do.
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RE: Looks like we are about to let the media pick our n... - 10/26/2008 6:23:48 PM
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The Media doesn't pick who will be President, God does.
I'd be more inclined to say that God lets us pick the President, for better or for worse.
-Dan.
Well said, Dan
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RE: Looks like we are about to let the media pick our n... - 10/26/2008 6:29:30 PM
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He didn't let the Israelites pick the Kings. When the Israelites asked for a king, God picked Saul. God even went so far as to tell them what a bad king Saul was going to be and the people wanted him anyway. The people wanted a earthly king they could see. I wonder what things would be like today if they hadn't asked for a king?
Do you see the irony in this?
Indeed I do.
I sorta get the feeling from some of your posts that you don't really see it.
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RE: Looks like we are about to let the media pick our n... - 10/26/2008 7:06:14 PM
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Im hooked on MSNBC, I espeically like Keith Olberman (I heart Keith Olberman) coz he really presents his stuff! They really have no sypathy for mccain.
now i also noticed that Fox News seems to lean more Republican.
so it is true, the media is really influencing people.
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RE: Looks like we are about to let the media pick our n... - 10/26/2008 10:50:20 PM
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McCain had his work cut out for him, and quite frankly, the chances have always been slim that any republican could win this year, as history shows that the incumbent president's party in similar economic times as our own rarely wins (especially when said incumbent president has historically low approval ratings).
McCain has the best chance of winning of all the GOP options, but if he loses it will have very little to do with the media and everything to do with Bush.
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RE: Looks like we are about to let the media pick our n... - 10/27/2008 1:06:31 AM
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McCain had his work cut out for him, and quite frankly, the chances have always been slim that any republican could win this year, as history shows that the incumbent president's party in similar economic times as our own rarely wins (especially when said incumbent president has historically low approval ratings).
McCain has the best chance of winning of all the GOP options, but if he loses it will have very little to do with the media and everything to do with Bush.
Funny how Bush gets all the blame for everything. How the dems in congress get a free pass for their contributions. And the media is only too eager to drive home the message of how evil Bush is. They did the same with his dad and with Reagan. The media seemed to admire Carter and Clinton. They didn't balst on either of them until things got to the point they had to save their own face.
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RE: Looks like we are about to let the media pick our n... - 10/27/2008 11:44:40 AM
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Obama gets caught in an association like he did with Rev. Wright, he lies and says he knew nothing about the man's message. He then throws him under the bus after having been mentored by the man for 20 years.
What EXACTLY is left to know about Obama's association with Rev. Wright? Do you want copies of their attendance records to see how often Obama attended church over a 20 year period. Would you like recordings of every sermon Rev. Wright made over the 20 year period Obama attended his church. Are you really willing to listen to all those recordings and go through all those records?
Should we request the same type of records and recordings from Sarah Palin's church or John McCain's just in case they were exposed to anything newsworthy in their churches?
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What do we know about Michelle Obama? How come we never hear about her public life, about the things she has said regarding not being proud of this country until her husband gets the nomination? What do we know about their kids? What about his mother, his grandmother?
You're kidding me right? You really want the media to go after the children? How about going after Piper Palin? I'm sure there's a lot of dirt that can be found on a 6 (?) year old. How about digging up dirt on McCain's mother? Is there no line that Republicans won't cross to win an election?
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Why has the media not brought up Biden's plagiarism?
Perhaps because a google search will already get you over 184,000 pages of information on this. If you're really interested, read them all.
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Why do we know Joe the plumber doesn't have a plumber's license? Why do we know anything about Joe the plumber other than he had the courage to ask a good question?
You can thank John McCain for Joe the plumbers troubles. It was McCain who brought up Joe's name over 20 times in the second debate. One would have to be daft to not know that Joe the plumber was a plant. He had already contributed $100 to the McCain campaign before he baited Obama with his "sounds like socialism" question. It's disingenuous for McCain to blame Obama for the media circus HE created by making "Joe the plumber" a political sound bite.
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And putting Obama in the Whitehouse will assure that the government assumes primary responsibility for teaching our kids. They will learn that homosexuality is an acceptable lifestyle, that abortion on demand is a good choice of contraception.
If you are expecting government agents to come into your home and take over the responsibility of teaching your children, then take another sip of your grape juice and go lie down. 
As parents, my wife and I have the responsibility to teach our children to pray and read the bible, teach our children about God and salvation through Jesus Christ, teach our children that homosexuality is not God's plan for the family, and that abortion, lying, stealing, cheating, disobedience of parents, etc. are all wrong.
If you are leaving the parenting up to schools or television or popular culture, then, yes, you have reason to worry regardless of who gets elected.
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