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G-d Speak - 10/11/2009 10:43:56 AM
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prolifepj
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Another thread got me to thinking about the voice of G-d.
* How does He speak to you? And is it generally the same way?
* What sort of tones does He use?
* I've found several, but I want to know what scriptures YOU have found that describe His voice.
* Which of those have you experienced? (Don't need the whole story, if any, maybe a Reader's Digest version)
* What effect has His voice had on you?
* When He speaks to you, does He primarily speak to you about you? Does He speak to you about others as well?
*What are some of your thoughts on G-d's voice?
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RE: G-d Speak - 10/11/2009 5:54:29 PM
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Most theologians describe four basic ways that God's Will is revealed to His people. First and foremost is the Holy Bible. If we think we hear anything from God that directly contradicts His Word, it was NOT from God! Second is the counsel of godly Believers. If we receive advice from others that directly contradicts His Word, it was NOT sound advice! Third may be circumstances and events that God allows to impact our lives, the "closed door, open window" analogy. Finally, God does on occasion speak directly to His children, but I personally believe this to be the least common way that God shares his Will with us.
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RE: G-d Speak - 10/11/2009 9:42:45 PM
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I agree, anything outside of His Word should be disregarded. Popsi mentioned to me that she thought we should not limit how G-d communicates with us and I believe she's very correct. The Bible mentions various ways in which G-d speaks to us.
Makes me think of another question I should add to the OP...
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RE: G-d Speak - 10/12/2009 9:17:52 AM
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I agree, anything outside of His Word should be disregarded. No, that's a very narrow view of discerning God's Will, IMO. The Bible does not specifically address innumerable issues of morality or future decisions, but the basic principles of Christlike living found in God's Word must always be applied to every moral issue and decision for our future that we make.
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RE: G-d Speak - 10/12/2009 1:50:32 PM
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God can speak through anyone or anything. There are tribes in remote parts of the world who have never heard the Gospel or had a Bible, and yet God revealed to them who His was and that he was the Savior and Messiah!
God speaks to me in different ways, usually it is a gut feeling backed up by His word. Anything that contradicts His word is not of God at all. Other times He speaks to me through conviction as well.
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RE: G-d Speak - 10/12/2009 11:42:05 PM
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prolifepj
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I agree, anything outside of His Word should be disregarded. No, that's a very narrow view of discerning God's Will, IMO. The Bible does not specifically address innumerable issues of morality or future decisions, but the basic principles of Christlike living found in God's Word must always be applied to every moral issue and decision for our future that we make.
I am thinking more along the lines of those basic principles you mention. I think that if we're following His Word in general, the specifics will also line up.
If I am listening to the voice in my head say, "Eat that other piece of candy" Its a safe bet it's not G-d. He would not tell me to do something contrary to His Word.
There actually are very many specifics in the Word as to how to live, act, deal with people, money, work etc. I love the Proverbs for much of that. I shoulld read them more.
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RE: G-d Speak - 10/12/2009 11:52:17 PM
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Humble! Good to see ya!
A good chunk of my friends are missionries. My favorite stories are of the times they've gone into remote and supposedly unreached villages only to find He had already revealed Himself to them. Rather than evangelizing, thet ended up discipling! G-d is SO big!
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RE: G-d Speak - 10/13/2009 3:51:16 PM
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1 Kings 19:11-12.but the Lord was not in the wind, and after the wind and earthquake, but the Lord was not in the earthquake; 12.and after the earthquake a fire, but the Lord was not in the fire; and after the fire a still small voice. “Translation a delicate whispering voice.”
Elijah heard this just in that way. Wow a whispering voice, quite, not loud, be still and know that I am God, that’s what comes to mind after reading this scripture. So that’s where we need to be to hear him. Still, quite, clearing all thoughts out of our mind, seeking Jesus.
John 10:27. My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me.
John 18:37. Last sentence of the verse. “Everyone who is of the truth hears My voice.”
Acts 22:14. “The God of our fathers has chosen you that you should know His will, and see the Just One, and hear the voice of His mouth.
Where do you go to hear?
Matthew 6:6. “But you, when you pray. Go into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is in a secret place; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you openly.
Mark 11:24. “Therefore I say to you, whatever things you ask when you pray, believe that you receive them, and you will have them.
You do not have, because you do not ask. Mathew 7:7 A.S.K.
It must be in line with scripture. By two are more witness is another way He speaks to us. Also through His word by revelation.
Here are just some scripture that touches base on the Lord speaking to His children.
Also remember to test the spirit.
God Bless
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RE: G-d Speak - 11/15/2009 5:25:19 PM
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Humble! Good to see ya!
A good chunk of my friends are missionries. My favorite stories are of the times they've gone into remote and supposedly unreached villages only to find He had already revealed Himself to them. Rather than evangelizing, thet ended up discipling! G-d is SO big!
Hi there PJ and Amen!
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RE: G-d Speak - 11/17/2009 10:51:01 PM
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According to my studies. He speaks in various way to various people.
1. He speaks to Moses with direct voice. He speaks only ancient Hebrew and ancient Greek. He doesn't speak English and any modern language because, I think, they are too wicked to be the "voice from God".
2. He speaks/whispers through the Holy Spirit. Usually, Christians are specialized in hearing from God in this way.
3. He speaks via miracles or even prophesies. Usually, He "speaks" in this way to His prophets.
Acts 14:3
So Paul and Barnabas spent considerable time there, speaking boldly for the Lord, who confirmed the message of his grace by enabling them to do miraculous signs and wonders.
Prophets may obtain His messages via various ways. He confirms His own messages using miracles and wonders.
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RE: G-d Speak - 11/19/2009 3:08:00 AM
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ORIGINAL: prolifepj
Another thread got me to thinking about the voice of G-d.
* How does He speak to you? And is it generally the same way?
Gently, most of the time. Most of the time, it is through His word; other times, through thoughts that are there that could not have come from me; and other times, there is an urgency about those thoughts. Sometimes, He speaks to me through circumstances or through another's actions.
* What sort of tones does He use?
Mainly gentle, sometimes, urgently. Many times, He has to tell me the same thing more than once.
* I've found several, but I want to know what scriptures YOU have found that describe His voice.
The "still, small voice" is the way that gets through to me most easily, I guess, because that is the biblical one He uses most with me.
* Which of those have you experienced? (Don't need the whole story, if any, maybe a Reader's Digest version)
His Word disciplines me, tells me what He expects of me. The (how shall I write it?) imparted thought causes me to search the Scriptures, if I don't already know, to find out if it is my idea or His, so I won't be fooled. One particular time that comes to mind, when he gave me a forceful thought, and forced me to pay attention through strong inner-urging, was one time when I would have hit a man who fell from his bicycle into my lane if I had not obeyed the thought. Another time, there was really no thought process, but everyone at a four-way light very uncharacteristically just sat there while a car tootled through on the red light. We all just sat there and stared for a couple seconds after the car was gone. I think we were all in shock that we had not gone forward and hit the car! I was one with a green light, and there were a total of four lanes of people who could have hit that car.
* What effect has His voice had on you?
He makes me walk the straight and narrow, and i have learned to love that walk.
* When He speaks to you, does He primarily speak to you about you? Does He speak to you about others as well?
About me, mostly. He knows that I have more trouble with me than with anyone else. 
*What are some of your thoughts on G-d's voice?
I am thankful for His discipline, thankful that He bothers to recognize my "learning style."
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RE: G-d Speak - 11/25/2009 12:59:09 AM
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I was just wondering why you write G-d instead of God???
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RE: G-d Speak - 11/25/2009 7:40:42 AM
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I've also wondered the same as bricole... would love to know !
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RE: G-d Speak - 11/25/2009 7:59:43 AM
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Messianic Jews (or Jewish Christians, if there is a difference?) may wish to follow Hebrew tradition which considered the Name of God to be so holy that it should not be written out in full. Thus, some posting here have continued that tradition when writing their English equivalents for divine Names by substituting a dash for a vowel. There have been at least two threads on this subject, but I don't have time to search for them now.
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RE: G-d Speak - 11/25/2009 1:54:30 PM
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Messianic Jews (or Jewish Christians, if there is a difference?) may wish to follow Hebrew tradition which considered the Name of God to be so holy that it should not be written out in full. Thus, some posting here have continued that tradition when writing their English equivalents for divine Names by substituting a dash for a vowel. There have been at least two threads on this subject, but I don't have time to search for them now.
Okay thanks!
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RE: G-d Speak - 11/26/2009 5:05:21 AM
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great, thanks for clearing that up ! Good to know.
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RE: G-d Speak - 11/27/2009 9:55:17 AM
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You beat me to it!
For me, it also helps me to be more careful about what I'm writing, knowing that whatever it is, I'm associating it with the L-rd of all creation who is holy. I like to be mindful of that.
Now I never really thought of it that way before, aside from it being in the original Torah. I might have to think about that one myself too a little bit. Hmmm, but I do not want to get myself tied up legalistically either though. no offense anyone! 
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RE: G-d Speak - 11/27/2009 12:30:52 PM
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Hi Humble *waving*
None taken here! I just know that for me, any little reminder to keep Him at the center really helps in what I write, say ...think, act, re-act is a good thing.
As far as the legalistic thing goes, if my tradition keeping becomes mere tradition and I do not (daven with kavanah) have any focus, direction, intention or purpose in what I'm doing (i.e. hyphenating the 'o', praying the morning prayers from the siddur, keeping the feasts etc)- as soon as I recognize that, I stop and refocus with the L-rd. Another 'something' that keeps me on my toes.
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RE: G-d Speak - 11/27/2009 1:07:28 PM
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Hi PJ, yeah thats what I mean, I do not want to get locked up with following rules if stops me from feeling God's love and grace, thats all I am saying.
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RE: G-d Speak - 11/27/2009 1:13:04 PM
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Aaaaabsooooolutely!
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RE: G-d Speak - 11/27/2009 1:14:30 PM
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RE: G-d Speak - 11/27/2009 2:55:52 PM
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I was just wondering why you write G-d instead of God???
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This comes from an ancient Jewish tradition based on the commandant to not take the name of the Lord in vain. Originally this applied only to the name "Yahweh/יהוה." When a Jewish person reads the word "Yahweh/יהוה" in a Hebrew text, they verbally substitute the name "Adonai/אדוני" (Which means Lord(s)). This developed later into a tradition of not even writing God's name on any document that was not considered permanent, God's name could not be written in anything that could be erased or discarded. In Hebrew, you will often find abbreviations (like יי) for God's name placed in text that is not deemed to be permanent. Later, other verbal and written substitutions were developed (in Orthodox Judiasm it is common to substitute "The name/השם" for the name of God i.e. יהוה. In the biblical Hebrew text, the vowel pointings for the name of God are incorrect, they are taken from the word Adonai as a reminder to those reading that the word Adonai should be substituted when reading the text. This is why their is so much debate about how the name of God should be correctly pronounced i.e. is it Yehowah/Yehovah as it is pointed, Yahweh as most biblical Hebrew scholars surmise, or something else.
In English circles, Jews have extended this practice by writing God as G-d and Lord as L-rd; However, in Hebrew these substations are only done when using God's name "Yahweh/יהוה" and not for the Hebrew equivalents (אל/אלהים,אדוני) for the English words God and Lord.
Additionally, this same tradition is reflected in almost every version of our English bibles i.e when the translators have translated the Hebrew name for God i.e. "Yahweh/יהוה" they have almost universally translated this as "Lord" and this is the same substation that has long been employed by the Jewish people.
I have no problem with people using this method as a way to remind themselves to reverence God, and I myself use this same substitution when reading the Hebrew text, partly out of respect for those who would be reading with me because reading it any other way would be offensive to most who read Hebrew i.e. most who read Hebrew are Jewish, and partly because I think this is a good reminder about how we should remember to reverence our Lord; however, too often this gets elevated (as it is in Jewish circles) to the level of a commandment and the many rules that accompany this "commandment" become burdensome. As a personal reminder, it can be a good practice but as a "commandment" that others MUST or SHOULD follow it is encroachment on the freedoms we have been given through Christ.
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