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RE: Fall of the Republic.... - 11/20/2009 7:01:00 AM
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Well, the first minute and a half has me rolling my eyes.
What I want to know is how you get a two and a half hour movie on youtube - I thought the limit was ten minutes.
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RE: Fall of the Republic.... - 11/20/2009 4:52:33 PM
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Two words:
Alex Jones
Growing fat off the paranoia he feed to others.
I remember him from the days when he was merely just another ranter on cable access TV in his home town of Austin. Just for fun I actually investigated a one of his conspiracy theories -- the one about FEMA constructing concentration camps in the Midwest that were designed to be operated as forced labor camps in the New World Order. He claimed it was all there in the new articles he loves to wave around at the camera.
I looked, and it was all about some small town prison that had made an agreement with the locals to have their prisoners work on a couple of construction projects for the benefit of the town. In other words, Jones's rant was all hyperbolic nonsense.
He got all in a tizzy too just before Y2K when local Austin law enforcement decided to take extra precautions against potential civil unrest if the worst case scenario happened when the clocks struck midnight Jan 1 2000 by opening a makeshift holding area in a local airport hanger. It was closed a couple of days later when nothing untoward happened.
There is hardly a less reliable reporter of current events than Alex Jones. He's now even promoting a British guy called David Icke on his site who believes that the "people" behind the whole New World Order conspiracy are actually shape-shifting reptilian aliens from another dimension. He believes that the British Royal Family are such beings (I guess that would explain a lot) and that they executed Princess Diana because she was getting too close to the truth.
Alex Jones lives in his own little world of hallucinatory paranoia. Having seen a good number of his rants, where he literally starts yelling and going beet red in the face, he must be living very close to the edge of insanity. Mind you, he's making a very nice living for himself.
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RE: Fall of the Republic.... - 11/20/2009 4:56:40 PM
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tacitus
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Well, the first minute and a half has me rolling my eyes.
What I want to know is how you get a two and a half hour movie on youtube - I thought the limit was ten minutes.
-Dan.
You have to be a professional studio (and own the copyright of the material) or a YouTube partner. I'm guessing that money is also involved.
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RE: Fall of the Republic.... - 11/21/2009 1:02:34 AM
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Anyone seen it? What do you think?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VebOTc-7shU
I have only been able to watch a little over an hour of it but will watch the rest tomorrow. I enjoyed what I saw and already knew most of it. What I don't understand is how Christians who have access to the Book of Revelation and other prophetic Scripture don't see prophecy being fulfilled in the New World Order? It is happening and their eyes and ears seem to be closed. It's quite baffling. Is it just a dislike for Alex Jones or ObamaLove? I don't know. Anway, thank you so much for posting the link.
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RE: Fall of the Republic.... - 11/21/2009 3:25:40 AM
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People have been mapping the contents of Revelation on to current events for nearly 2000 years, and they all say that *this* time, it's really happening.... and *next* time, they will say the same thing again, ad infinitum.
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Is it just a dislike for Alex Jones or ObamaLove?
Nope. It's just that Alex Jones spins his yarn out of a nothing but lies, hyperbole, and sensationalism. He was doing this all through Bush's two terms too, and he was no less wrong then also. If by some miracle Palin ends up being the next president, Jones will merely call her the next puppet too, no matter what she does. This is his life's blood, and he really doesn't care who's in power, except that now it's a Democrat in the White House, his stuff is being lapped up by the paranoid Tea Party wing of the Republican party who are blissfully ignorant of the fact that Jones will just has happily accuse their favorite political leaders of being part of the NWO too.
I've watched this man for over 12 years now, and he never changes. Facts are like putty in his hands. He can mold them to fit any fantastic conspiracy theory he wants to, and does.
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RE: Fall of the Republic.... - 11/21/2009 3:43:31 AM
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People have been mapping the contents of Revelation on to current events for nearly 2000 years, and they all say that *this* time, it's really happening.... and *next* time, they will say the same thing again, ad infinitum. Well, it's quite possible that the "timing" was never right to know more.
I'm not at all sure why you think God wrote so much about the future but never intended for believers to unravel it - "in the fulness of time".
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RE: Fall of the Republic.... - 11/21/2009 1:40:25 PM
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Tacitus, did you watch the video?
Whether it is end time prophecy or not, the New World Order is a reality. It is on it's way and it is the only way that the man of lawlessness can come to power. How else? Do you think various countries of the world will "elect" him?
The Federal Reserve is a curse on this country. It is not a federal bank but a private bank owned by international bankers. That is a fact. Many people don't realize this. Woodrow Wilson caused this fiasco in 1913.
Henry Kissinger is on video stating that Barack Obama is being primed to bring in the New World Order. New World Order has been spoken of openly by presidents since Bush 41. It will happen. That is the purpose of the NAU. There will be several "unions" in the world created for facilitation of the New World Order. Instead of so many countries being "controlled" there will be "unions".
These facts are not from the video, they are well known facts.
You can accuse Alex Jones of turning this into a meal ticket but these things are coming true. He was for Ron Paul and that is why he has criticized Bush so vehemently. Like so many who love Ron Paul, no one else is qualified for the White House in his mind. The fact is, Ron Paul was not willing to help Israel if she were attacked and Ron Paul probably would have been assassinated within six months if he had by some chance been elected. He was going to end the Federal Reserve.
I have spoken here about the shadow government behind the government and people react as if I am just a conspiracy nut. That is okay. I know what is truth and the international bankers are the ones in power. They decide who gets elected president, what the policies of the president are, etc. They manipulate everyone and everything. The bailouts to the banks are in their pockets and we are paying for it.
But you can go on thinking this is just Alex Jones craziness. Why God made ostriches to stick their heads in the sand when in danger seems a strange idea to me but I guess He did it for His own pleasure. In addition to sheep, however, we could also be called ostriches.
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RE: Fall of the Republic.... - 11/21/2009 5:49:55 PM
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I haven't watched this particular movie, but having seen at least three of Jone's previous efforts, including the last one, it really isn't necessary since he never says anything new. The NWO conspiracy is always the same, he just changes the actors to fit whoever happens to be in power at the time.
Look, I know that nothing I can say will persuade you that this NWO stuff is nothing more than a whole heap of stinking garbage based on nothing more than the fevered imaginations of professional conspiracy theorists like Jones.
I have no doubt that there are powerful people in the world who have some influence on a few of the policies of the US government. Money and power buys you access to the Oval Office -- always has and always will. It's also true that this is a highly connected world, with multinational companies, organizations, and alliances of governments. If nothing else, the recent financial crisis shows how interconnected we are.
But it's just ludicrous to extrapolate those facts onto some silly idea of a shadow government that is running everything behind the scenes, so it's not surprising that when make that claim that, you are called a nut. And amusingly enough, ostriches don't hide their head in the sand anyway. That's just another tall tale spun out of some fanciful idea. Just like the NWO itself.
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RE: Fall of the Republic.... - 11/22/2009 1:21:18 PM
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I haven't watched this particular movie, but having seen at least three of Jone's previous efforts, including the last one, it really isn't necessary since he never says anything new. The NWO conspiracy is always the same, he just changes the actors to fit whoever happens to be in power at the time.
Look, I know that nothing I can say will persuade you that this NWO stuff is nothing more than a whole heap of stinking garbage based on nothing more than the fevered imaginations of professional conspiracy theorists like Jones.
I have no doubt that there are powerful people in the world who have some influence on a few of the policies of the US government. Money and power buys you access to the Oval Office -- always has and always will. It's also true that this is a highly connected world, with multinational companies, organizations, and alliances of governments. If nothing else, the recent financial crisis shows how interconnected we are.
But it's just ludicrous to extrapolate those facts onto some silly idea of a shadow government that is running everything behind the scenes, so it's not surprising that when make that claim that, you are called a nut. And amusingly enough, ostriches don't hide their head in the sand anyway. That's just another tall tale spun out of some fanciful idea. Just like the NWO itself.
I beg to differ with you. I have seen ostriches hide their heads in the sand on tv.
I noticed you didn't address the federal reserve. How do you explain that? Do you somehow think it is "federal"? It's not. It's private. Why do you think that it is never audited?
How are you disputing the NWO when it has been spoken of by every president since Bush 41? Kissinger speaks of it affectionately. Obama is working toward it and seems not to care that he is alienating the American people in the process.
You say you don't believe in a "shadow government". How do you explain Kennedy's assassination? Just a lone gunman who didn't like him? Kennedy was against the fight for Viet Nam. He was strongly for civil rights. Margaret Sanger and her ilk wouldn't have liked that. Keeping the black man down and convincing him he needs his gov't to survive is the plan. How do you explain the economic collapse JUST before the election of 2008 when John McCain was ahead in the polls and had just chosen a young vibrant woman as his running mate? How do you explain two wars that have, seemingly, no purpose? Just a warmonger president? I don't think so. But alas, I will never convince you because you want to believe in "chance". These things just happened out of the blue. Do you really think God doesn't have a plan? Do you think His plans have no order? Have there not always been evil men controlling the masses?
If you had watched the video you would have seen that the things being said are coming true right now. Alex Jones has no end times belief in a Christian way. He is an alarmist and makes his money that way. That doesn't mean he is a liar. He tells the truth but he sees no higher purpose in it. So, as Jesus told us, we should pay attention. We should think for ourselves and not be so trusting of our government because it is obvious they are not looking out for our best interests. At the same time, we shouldn't believe Alex Jones' word as the gospel. Study all that is happening. And especially, Tacitus, look up the Federal Reserve. Hopefully you'll find the truth about it. Think for yourself instead of ignoring these dangerous times and explaining them away as just "things that have happened since the beginning of time". We are no longer a primitive people. The world has changed and become smaller than ever before and much more dangerous.
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RE: Fall of the Republic.... - 11/22/2009 3:30:27 PM
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The "New World Order" is a sound-bite not a shadow government.
As for all the other conspiratorial nonsense you mention -- do you really not realize how crazy it sounds? You really think the 2008 crisis was engineered just to get rid of McCain?? I'm afraid I won't be joining you down that particular rabbit hole.
The world is a dangerous place, I agree, but it's no more dangerous that it has been in many periods of history. In fact, in many places it's never been safer to life and limb, given the simple fact that life expectancy is now greater than it has ever been in history. It's far safer than it was during the two world wars and it's far safer than it was during the height of the Cold War when many people, including those who had their fingers on the button, thought that nuclear war was inevitable.
What you attribute to design I attribute to circumstance and the usual machinations of people in power.
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RE: Fall of the Republic.... - 11/22/2009 8:02:04 PM
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The "New World Order" is a sound-bite not a shadow government.
As for all the other conspiratorial nonsense you mention -- do you really not realize how crazy it sounds? You really think the 2008 crisis was engineered just to get rid of McCain?? I'm afraid I won't be joining you down that particular rabbit hole.
The world is a dangerous place, I agree, but it's no more dangerous that it has been in many periods of history. In fact, in many places it's never been safer to life and limb, given the simple fact that life expectancy is now greater than it has ever been in history. It's far safer than it was during the two world wars and it's far safer than it was during the height of the Cold War when many people, including those who had their fingers on the button, thought that nuclear war was inevitable.
What you attribute to design I attribute to circumstance and the usual machinations of people in power.
I never said the NWO was the shadow government. The shadow government is planning a NWO and the EU and U.S. are lining up to join, not by choice, perhaps but because we have Socialist leaders. It's very obvious that you don't know anything about this and that is sad because they are even talking about it on some Christian tv stations. So I'd say you are way behind.
And yes, I do believe that the stock market was manipulated and the economic downturn was "discovered" at that very special time on purpose. In August of last year, Obama was trailing McCain. People had their wits about them, not that McCain would have been a good president. Personally, I think the far left media convinced everyone that he was the winner on the Republican side and so everyone voted for him during the primaries, except Evangelicals who voted for Huck and the Ron Paul nation who voted for Ron Paul. And why do you think that happened? Because the "powers that be" wanted an old man to run against their slick young man who had passed the test given by the Council on Foreign Relations, Bilderbergs, etc. Was there not a meeting with the Bilderbergs attended by Obama and Clinton before the election? Why? Why a "secret" meeting? Anyway, none of the bankers expected McCain to do as well as he did and then he chose Palin as his running mate and the Republican base went wild with enthusiasm. So that presented a problem to the bankers. But I know, you don't question things... Go ahead and call it a rabbit hole. I don't care if you don't want to have eyes to see and ears to hear. That is up to you.
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RE: Fall of the Republic.... - 11/23/2009 1:40:51 AM
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Milliecat, I was wanting to ask you after I read this a little more about this orchestration, that is not being by chance. First, I wanted to ask about the first stock market crash and that wasn't by chance either? I'm sure that's probably been brought up before and elsewhere. But I see what you mean about the curious timing. Also the video I've posted with Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae, AIG, but not too much on the auto industry. Just taking one of them, Fannie Mae, the lending practices just seemed to go beyond what you would think anybody in their right mind would allow. Like you said, it just seemes like all this stuff seemed to coincidentally fall apart at the same time. What was that other one, Bank of America? If this was indeed intentional, the right time to perpetrate some grandiose scheme like this is when you're down. Kick 'em while they're down. This insurance deal sure seems cloaked as well. They've known about medical costs for some time, and so these geniuses just got together now to figure this out. Oh sure, we've always seen it coming, but the 3,000 page plan was finally drafted this year, and actually less than a year. Just get out of the way and we've got it covered. Doesn't Harvard help out with projected cost analysis, since their institution is given so much credence in every aspect of business? Like a bunch of people just woke up and found the cost of hospitals/medical was too high, and the insurance was skyrocketing, for whatever reason, and dimocrats come up with a 3,000, or 5,000 page plan all of a sudden. 
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RE: Fall of the Republic.... - 11/23/2009 11:51:01 AM
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I don't know enough about the first stock market crash but wasn't it a failed Federal Reserve? If so, where did the money go? Who runs the Federal Reserve, but the international bankers? All of our money goes to them, all of the time.
There has been a plan for a NWO for ages but they couldn't just put it into place. Americans are used to their freedom, Europeans too. Third world countries and countries who have always been lead by dictators will be no problem. I do wonder, however, how they will get Russia and China to cooperate, but maybe it won't be a problem as the NWO will be a Socialist NWO. Anyway, a financial crash and a controlled health care system would be a way of getting Americans to depend on the government- and it's working. Welfare didn't work because most of us want more money than welfare provides. But fear of losing everything will drive us to our knees. We'll need prolonged unemployment benefits. Being just a number waiting in line at a clinic and hoping that we are young enough to qualify for care will have a way of changing our free-thinking mentality. We will be dependent on the gov't for our lives and our children's lives. There is already a shortage of doctors and Socialized medicine will make it worse. People will die waiting for surgery or chemotherapy.
I met a woman at the grocery store last week. We were both choosing apples and chatting. Then out of the blue she said, "You know, I left a Communist country only to end up in a Communist country." Her son came then so I really didn't continue the conversation.
I think the movement started to speed up in the '60's and is slowly moving toward it's goal. I don't think we have any say in who becomes President. If the people like someone the bankers don't like, the election becomes "very close". Remember 2000? It appeared that the people wanted the Gaia worshipper but the bankers liked Bush because they had bigger fish to fry than global warming at the time. Guess who won?
The stock market plummet would have happened anyway last year but it is the timing that is suspicious: right after McCain chose Palin as his running mate and before the election.
As far as the housing push in the '90's is concerned, I don't think they cared whether or not people could afford homes. Who gets the home if the owners can't pay? There was some resistance to giving out the loans by the banks but lawyers like Obama moved in and pressured them. I think the problem was that they sold the loans to investors overseas, didn't they? Wasn't it kind of like when you don't pay back a credit card they sell the loan to a collection agency? I'm not sure about that part as I don't own a home and have not been that interested. I would think it would be difficult to sort out who actually owns the home, etc. in that case.
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RE: Fall of the Republic.... - 11/28/2009 4:55:47 AM
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Tacitus, did you watch the video?
Whether it is end time prophecy or not, the New World Order is a reality. It is on it's way and it is the only way that the man of lawlessness can come to power. How else? Do you think various countries of the world will "elect" him?
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Henry Kissinger is on video stating that Barack Obama is being primed to bring in the New World Order. New World Order has been spoken of openly by presidents since Bush 41. It will happen. That is the purpose of the NAU. There will be several "unions" in the world created for facilitation of the New World Order. Instead of so many countries being "controlled" there will be "unions".
These facts are not from the video, they are well known facts.
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There has been a plan for a NWO for ages but they couldn't just put it into place.
Yep, and in my opinon, one of the reasons that he doesn't seem to care that working toward the NWO is alienating the American people, is because HE ONLY NEEDS ONE TERM to get the final legislation in place to shift American sovereignty to a world government.
He is now the head of the UN security council... a position that he can hold whether he is president or not!
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The "New World Order" is a sound-bite not a shadow government.
As for all the other conspiratorial nonsense you mention -- do you really not realize how crazy it sounds? You really think the 2008 crisis was engineered just to get rid of McCain??
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Ummmmm, no! LOL, The 2008 crisis wasn't engineered just to get rid of McCain! It was engineerd to bring the US to it's knees and into a one world government.
Dude, McCain didn't even TRY ... He started pulling his ads BEFORE the V.P. debate and made such a weak showing in his debates, that folks at his rallies were BEGGING him to "take the gloves off" but he had already thrown the fight!
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He was doing this all through Bush's two terms too, and he was no less wrong then also. If by some miracle Palin ends up being the next president, Jones will merely call her the next puppet too, no matter what she does. This is his life's blood, and he really doesn't care who's in power, except that now it's a Democrat in the White House, his stuff is being lapped up by the paranoid Tea Party wing of the Republican party who are blissfully ignorant of the fact that Jones will just has happily accuse their favorite political leaders of being part of the NWO too.
And he'd probably be right. Let's be honest here, is the "choice" between two candidates really much of a choice? Is it a choice at all? With the size of our country and population, a two party system is ridiculous and if someone other than the two main choices, even has a shot that person gets eleminated from the race just like Ron Paul did... He didn't even get INVITED to the second presidential debate! I dunno... maybe his inivitation got lost in the mail?
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RE: Fall of the Republic.... - 11/29/2009 6:16:20 AM
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New World Order is a great band. Oh wait...that's New Order.
Contrary to popular belief, ostriches do not bury their heads in the sand.
Even if all this is true, what difference does it make? Is this conversation important because people just like a conspiracy or because they think they can do something to stop it or what?
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RE: Fall of the Republic.... - 11/29/2009 7:35:37 AM
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New World Order is a great band. Oh wait...that's New Order.
Contrary to popular belief, ostriches do not bury their heads in the sand.
Even if all this is true, what difference does it make? Is this conversation important because people just like a conspiracy or because they think they can do something to stop it or what?
Well, I'm not sure why this conversation was important enough for you to post and cannot speak for others as to why they found it important enough to comment on either, but it is important for ME because I see it as the fulfillment of scripture before my eyes. Which means quite simply that the word of GOD is true.
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RE: Fall of the Republic.... - 11/29/2009 10:27:03 AM
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I posted because I was curious why anyone cares. Now I'm more curious at this:
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it is important for ME because I see it as the fulfillment of scripture before my eyes. Which means quite simply that the word of GOD is true.
You don't need to believe this stuff to believe scripture is true, do you?
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RE: Fall of the Republic.... - 11/29/2009 10:43:18 PM
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I posted because I was curious why anyone cares. Now I'm more curious at this:
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it is important for ME because I see it as the fulfillment of scripture before my eyes. Which means quite simply that the word of GOD is true.
You don't need to believe this stuff to believe scripture is true, do you?
I can't speak for anyone else but, for myself, of course I know that the Word of God is true. But some of us have been studying end time prophecy along with current events for a long time. Twenty years ago, NWO was just a silly term used by Bush 41. Some people were impressed by it. Now, it is talked about openly by Obama and Gordon Brown. Kissinger openly said that a NWO would be a good thing and that Obama is being primed to lead the NWO. Now, twenty years later, we are seeing something that wouldn't have ever come into being back then actually happening. I find it fascinating, though the end time events are not happy times. So, to me, it's not a matter of realizing the truth of Scripture because God always does what He says He will do, but being thrilled to be alive during this time when the end times are beginning.
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RE: Fall of the Republic.... - 11/29/2009 10:54:34 PM
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Tacitus, did you watch the video?
Whether it is end time prophecy or not, the New World Order is a reality. It is on it's way and it is the only way that the man of lawlessness can come to power. How else? Do you think various countries of the world will "elect" him?
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Henry Kissinger is on video stating that Barack Obama is being primed to bring in the New World Order. New World Order has been spoken of openly by presidents since Bush 41. It will happen. That is the purpose of the NAU. There will be several "unions" in the world created for facilitation of the New World Order. Instead of so many countries being "controlled" there will be "unions".
These facts are not from the video, they are well known facts.
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There has been a plan for a NWO for ages but they couldn't just put it into place.
Yep, and in my opinon, one of the reasons that he doesn't seem to care that working toward the NWO is alienating the American people, is because HE ONLY NEEDS ONE TERM to get the final legislation in place to shift American sovereignty to a world government.
He is now the head of the UN security council... a position that he can hold whether he is president or not!
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ORIGINAL: tacitus
The "New World Order" is a sound-bite not a shadow government.
As for all the other conspiratorial nonsense you mention -- do you really not realize how crazy it sounds? You really think the 2008 crisis was engineered just to get rid of McCain??
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Ummmmm, no! LOL, The 2008 crisis wasn't engineered just to get rid of McCain! It was engineerd to bring the US to it's knees and into a one world government.
Dude, McCain didn't even TRY ... He started pulling his ads BEFORE the V.P. debate and made such a weak showing in his debates, that folks at his rallies were BEGGING him to "take the gloves off" but he had already thrown the fight!
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He was doing this all through Bush's two terms too, and he was no less wrong then also. If by some miracle Palin ends up being the next president, Jones will merely call her the next puppet too, no matter what she does. This is his life's blood, and he really doesn't care who's in power, except that now it's a Democrat in the White House, his stuff is being lapped up by the paranoid Tea Party wing of the Republican party who are blissfully ignorant of the fact that Jones will just has happily accuse their favorite political leaders of being part of the NWO too.
And he'd probably be right. Let's be honest here, is the "choice" between two candidates really much of a choice? Is it a choice at all? With the size of our country and population, a two party system is ridiculous and if someone other than the two main choices, even has a shot that person gets eleminated from the race just like Ron Paul did... He didn't even get INVITED to the second presidential debate! I dunno... maybe his inivitation got lost in the mail?
Butterfly doll, I still think that the financial crisis happened WHEN it did to damage McCain. People saw it as Bush's fault. For many, the vote was not so much for Obama but against the Bush policies. Bush got blamed for everything and still does. It was just so predictable.
I do think that something will be orchestrated to bring us to our knees to bring in the NWO, but I don't think it was the financial crisis. It hasn't brought us to our knees, at least not yet. And many people are already waking up to the reality that Obama is a Marxist and he wants to change the government to Socialism. I am expecting something down the road that will be much worse than the financial crisis.
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RE: Fall of the Republic.... - 11/29/2009 10:58:46 PM
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Milliecat
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New World Order is a great band. Oh wait...that's New Order.
Contrary to popular belief, ostriches do not bury their heads in the sand.
Even if all this is true, what difference does it make? Is this conversation important because people just like a conspiracy or because they think they can do something to stop it or what?
Thanks for the link, but they didn't say what the ostrich does when it senses danger. I know it doesn't bury it's head in the sand for the fun of it. Where did that saying come from, if not from the ostrich?
Some of us are fascinated by eschatology.
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RE: Fall of the Republic.... - 11/29/2009 11:10:31 PM
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butterfly_doll
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I posted because I was curious why anyone cares. Now I'm more curious at this:
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it is important for ME because I see it as the fulfillment of scripture before my eyes. Which means quite simply that the word of GOD is true.
You don't need to believe this stuff to believe scripture is true, do you?
No, but I am EXCITED to see what I have believed in being fullfilled.
I didn't mean to confuse you. I attempted to answer your question, and then I made a delcaration for those who doubt word of God that seeing the scripture being fullfilled is confirmation that the word of God is true.
And as a new member here, happy to have found a couple of people who were interested enough in the subject to conversate with me for a moment.
< Message edited by butterfly_doll -- 11/29/2009 11:52:12 PM >
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