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Any caregivers out there?Need input. - 8/19/2008 7:10:17 PM
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splost
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Hi,
I just interviewed for a wonderful Christian couple who run a board and care home close to where I live. They don't live on the board and care premises, it would be me, and 4-5 residents, mostly elderly. I am 35 and single. They would pay 1600 a month, plus free food. I visitied the facility and the residents seemed nice and not too high level maintenence. They are letting me have some church related activities off (4 of them, one day events) only during the next couple of months (These are not "social" activities, but the feasts). I rent a room out already and I don't want to move all my junk out, nor would I have to. Just live in a suitcase but in a nicely furnished room.
The drawback is this. It is a live in, six day a week job. Maybe it's selfish, but I am thinking that I won't have much of a social life at all. The only day off I will get will be (I requested it) Friday night to Saturday night for church. That was my one day I week I wanted.
To be honest, I like going to church two to three times a week. I have a group I like on Thursday nights that is singles and we go out to eat.
Am I pouting for not wanting to take this job? They are very nice, but I am wondering if having almost no social life is worth the free food. I would save on gas since I wouldn't be driving anywhere. The man interviewing me was super nice, saying I could try it and see what I thought.
Would it be obnoxious of me to ask if I could have a five day workweek instead? Perhaps so, but what do you guys think?
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RE: Any caregivers out there?Need input. - 8/19/2008 7:14:19 PM
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manda59
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Do they expect you to be on call 24 hours a day on the days you are working?
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RE: Any caregivers out there?Need input. - 8/19/2008 7:53:56 PM
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splost
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Hi Manda
I have to stay on the premises the entire six days. It's not all work. There are nap times and down times. It's just knowing I "cant leave" without calling the owner and asking for coverage.
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RE: Any caregivers out there?Need input. - 8/21/2008 9:35:26 AM
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Szaftoo
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Even though caregivers have their scheduled down times, there will be situations when they are expected to work through them. If a resident needs immediate help and the other caregivers are busy, you will be expected to step in. If a resident needs assistance in the middle of the night, you will have to get up and help them. The only way to get time off is to leave the facility completely. If you are there, you will be working.
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RE: Any caregivers out there?Need input. - 8/23/2008 10:48:31 PM
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blessedinnyc
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ORIGINAL: splost
Hi,
I just interviewed for a wonderful Christian couple who run a board and care home close to where I live. They don't live on the board and care premises, it would be me, and 4-5 residents, mostly elderly. I am 35 and single. They would pay 1600 a month, plus free food. I visitied the facility and the residents seemed nice and not too high level maintenence. They are letting me have some church related activities off (4 of them, one day events) only during the next couple of months (These are not "social" activities, but the feasts). I rent a room out already and I don't want to move all my junk out, nor would I have to. Just live in a suitcase but in a nicely furnished room.
The drawback is this. It is a live in, six day a week job. Maybe it's selfish, but I am thinking that I won't have much of a social life at all. The only day off I will get will be (I requested it) Friday night to Saturday night for church. That was my one day I week I wanted.
To be honest, I like going to church two to three times a week. I have a group I like on Thursday nights that is singles and we go out to eat.
Am I pouting for not wanting to take this job? They are very nice, but I am wondering if having almost no social life is worth the free food. I would save on gas since I wouldn't be driving anywhere. The man interviewing me was super nice, saying I could try it and see what I thought.
Would it be obnoxious of me to ask if I could have a five day workweek instead? Perhaps so, but what do you guys think?
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Hi,
I just interviewed for a wonderful Christian couple who run a board and care home close to where I live. They don't live on the board and care premises, it would be me, and 4-5 residents, mostly elderly. I am 35 and single. They would pay 1600 a month, plus free food. I visitied the facility and the residents seemed nice and not too high level maintenence. They are letting me have some church related activities off (4 of them, one day events) only during the next couple of months (These are not "social" activities, but the feasts). I rent a room out already and I don't want to move all my junk out, nor would I have to. Just live in a suitcase but in a nicely furnished room.
The drawback is this. It is a live in, six day a week job. Maybe it's selfish, but I am thinking that I won't have much of a social life at all. The only day off I will get will be (I requested it) Friday night to Saturday night for church. That was my one day I week I wanted.
To be honest, I like going to church two to three times a week. I have a group I like on Thursday nights that is singles and we go out to eat.
Am I pouting for not wanting to take this job? They are very nice, but I am wondering if having almost no social life is worth the free food. I would save on gas since I wouldn't be driving anywhere. The man interviewing me was super nice, saying I could try it and see what I thought.
Would it be obnoxious of me to ask if I could have a five day workweek instead? Perhaps so, but what do you guys think?
Hi splost.
The way I count it, you are earning roughly $4.16/hour with this job (16 hours a day * 6 days/week, not counting sleeping time.) A five-day workweek wouldn't quite bump this up to federal minimum wage, but it would make things more reasonable.
I don't know what the going rate for this kind of work is, but we had someone help my grandmother out part-time during the day for $9.00/hour. If you are an RNA, I think you should be making at least that amount for RNA-type work, and if you're a Registered Nurse, I'm sure that number would be over $20.00/hour.
I think the real problem here is that they don't have a viable business model. You can't run an assisted living home with four residents; you need enough to justify having three or four shifts of nurses. (My Mom is a dietician at a nursing home.)
Finally, I would just add that federal minimum wage is $6.55/hour. What they're doing is technically illegal here. At the very least, I think you deserve an extra day off, as 16 hours/day at 5 days/week for $1600/month still works out to $5.00/hour (not counting months with extra weeks).
< Message edited by blessedinnyc -- 8/23/2008 11:03:55 PM >
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RE: Any caregivers out there?Need input. - 8/24/2008 3:06:42 AM
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locomom
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I agree with the above comments about the salary and conditions of this arrangement. Something seems very much not right with this situation. The couple may present themselves nicely, but the details of the job add up very very poorly for you.
1)If you have to stay and can't leave without arrange for coverage, you are on call all that time. If you have to stay there is a reason which is they want you available.
2)As blessedinnyc has figure, you aren't even making babysitting wages! I paid my babysitter $4-5 an hour for 1 child.
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RE: Any caregivers out there?Need input. - 8/25/2008 6:29:42 AM
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bzirk
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Goods points have been made, but could it be the living quarters are part of the compensation?
For splost who doesn't want to move out of her current place, this is not a good deal. But for someone who would be willing to live there, it could be a great deal and considerably more compensation than what 'blessed' calculated.
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RE: Any caregivers out there?Need input. - 8/25/2008 10:08:32 AM
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Szaftoo
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Goods points have been made, but could it be the living quarters are part of the compensation?
For splost who doesn't want to move out of her current place, this is not a good deal. But for someone who would be willing to live there, it could be a great deal and considerably more compensation than what 'blessed' calculated.
Room and board are included which is a factor, however, most times the conditions aren't ideal. You could be sharing a room which is not bad but there is no privacy. Some caregivers sleep on the couches in the living room.
Most of the time food is included. If you want something different, you buy it yourself.
I agree with you, it could be a really good deal or a deal breaker. A person has to do the math and see if it works for them.
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RE: Any caregivers out there?Need input. - 8/25/2008 1:34:10 PM
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Brandy
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This is a job that makes sense for someone new to the area or someone who needs the room/board/food and is willing to exchange it for lack of social life.
Since you want a social life I would ask about a 5 day work week but be willing to pass on the job offer if they cannot give it to you.
Regarding wages - live in jobs are exempt from federal minimum wage issues since you are 'scheduled' down time and feasibly would not be needed the entire 24 hrs in a day.
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RE: Any caregivers out there?Need input. - 8/25/2008 2:38:35 PM
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hjemerson
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I have worked in this type of home in the past few years frist this does not sound right what they are asking you to do . I worked in a group (is it lic,) home and we had a live in res. aprtment a college girl, live in it it was for care if we needed and she had week ends off if she need more it was approved and some one would come to cover from another house, PLEASE check in to the local and State laws on this area of care each state is drifferent and most stated require the person on the staff to always have a back up and the amount of work time can be drifferents in each state, Get everything in writeing If these nice people have been running a busness of careing for other they need to care for the emplyees, also. take a look at if you willing to give yup you free time to and if it will really be worth it to take this job and all the you will be giving up for little money.
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